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NOTE TO FIRST YEAR ASSOCIATES: Black highlight =/= Redaction
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:10 AM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank A 1st year fucked this up in a JDG recently. Filed something with "redactions" except he just highlighted in black over the adobe file. It didn't actually redact the document and CBI was exposed briefly.
Don't make this mistake.
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:31 AM Author: Alcoholic orchid space feces rofl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352683) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:31 AM Author: pink mental disorder elastic band SAME NOTE TO BOOMER PARTNERS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352684) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:32 AM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman partners at your firm do redaction work? what's their billing rate for that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352685) |
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Date: April 18th, 2019 11:47 AM Author: Aquamarine Meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#38106448) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:53 AM Author: pearl stimulating house so how do you redact? this doesnt come up in transactional (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352743) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:53 AM Author: pink mental disorder elastic band Redaction tool in Adobe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352746) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:59 AM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352765) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:59 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping Are you fucking serious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352763) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:04 AM Author: pearl stimulating house why wouldnt i be serious? ive never had to redact a document, why would i know about how its done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352779) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:11 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping A third-grade level of computer literacy would tell you that just because data is displayed with the same background and foreground color doesn't mean the data is gone from the document.
If you didn't know that, I'm really gonna fuckin blow your mind now. Did you know that if you get a document in Wingdings, you can select the text and change it to a normal font like Times New Roman, and you'll be able to read it?
Fuckin magical.
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:12 AM Author: pearl stimulating house ok thats great, but has nothing to do with my question. maybe stop being so smug and you can take a second to comprehend other people's sentences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352798) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:15 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping https://www.dictionary.com/browse/so
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/by--the--way
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:15 AM Author: pearl stimulating house i think you actually are running retard shtick. bizarre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352802) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:17 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping You forgot to change your moniker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352804) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:21 AM Author: pearl stimulating house not remotely the same guy, you just seem really hardheaded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352805) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping Actually... not unfair. Truce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352807) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: comical magical address potus Asking how to redact a word =/= thinking that highlighting the word in black is the right way to redact it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353579) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 8:02 AM Author: Bateful Cuckoldry Lettuce u seem dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359301) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: fragrant apoplectic forum (neurotic striver having meltdown over another's inexcusable ignorance of redaction process) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359946) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Massive Theater yeah seriously i don't know how to redact a document and i've fucking written my own operating system before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37360163) |
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Date: April 18th, 2019 11:48 AM Author: Aquamarine Meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#38106455) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: at-the-ready carmine brethren 180 subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37360903) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 2:59 AM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank (xo2018) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352764) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:05 AM Author: pearl stimulating house ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352780) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:00 AM Author: passionate cobalt prole dopamine the best (but autistic) way to do this is to copy the plaintext of the document into another document (ONLY plaintext; no markups), and then take the material to be redacted and replace it with [Redacted]. this is good because it removes information about the length of the excised material and not just the material itself.
once you finish, copy the plaintext again and paste into a third document, which is your final saved copy. all the markup codes in your final document (which a clever/curious opponent WILL look at) will be meaningless because it will contain no information about the redacted material - not even its volume. |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:02 AM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank "this is good because it removes information about the length of the excised material and not just the material itself"
who cares? nobody, not even the company/person whose material is being redacted. |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:08 AM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy Sometimes you can piece things together like you redact a number and by the length you can tell if it's one/two/three/four etc. And you can do that with common phrases too. You can never think of everything you are giving away in advance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352790) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:11 AM Author: pearl stimulating house yeah people have figured this shit out in some of the 'redacted' files released in the russia investigation, for example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352794) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:12 AM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy yup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352796) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:46 AM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank says the guy who doesn't know how to use the redaction tool in adobe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352833) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:53 AM Author: pearl stimulating house again, why would someone who has no need to redact anything have any use for the redaction tool in adobe? and what relevance does that have as to whether a single five character redaction is effective when you know the context and the size of the word(s) being redacted? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352841) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: Mildly autistic aromatic lay https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1070150068735365120?s=21 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353542) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:48 AM Author: claret nofapping blood rage location That's why you sometimes need to hold ctrl while making your redaction box. Instead of highlighting text or pictures, it draws a box of whatever size you wish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353584) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:19 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy Thank yoU!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354133) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:45 AM Author: 180 principal's office this guy needs neck training immediately (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359919) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37360879) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:04 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping This is a really good way to get sanctioned. If you were my associate, you'd probably get a formal counseling on this to start my "maybe fire this guy" file. HTH! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352777) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:12 AM Author: Orange boyish cuck deer antler What's wrong here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352797) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:12 AM Author: passionate cobalt prole dopamine are you running retard shtick? nobody gets sanctioned for that. if you think that's going to be a problem, you'd just write [4 lines redacted] rather than plain redacted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352799) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:16 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping (low IQ shitlawyer talking about how nobody gets sanctioned for discovery violations) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352803) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: passionate cobalt prole dopamine a violation of what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352806) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:27 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping I would honestly pay money to watch you answer the following question on the record:
Counsel, will you please explain to the court why you believe the font, page numbering, and metadata to be privileged or attorney work product? What makes you think you can satisfy the court's discovery order with something you copy-pasted and ginned up in Word? |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:36 AM Author: passionate cobalt prole dopamine font and pagination is maintained in plaintext. metadata can obviously contain unintentional disclosures and has to be removed to ensure a proper redaction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37352824) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 9:12 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping I would definitely fire you for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353207) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:46 PM Author: cordovan stain Yeah this is insane I’d be pissed if I got that from the other side. You are basically giving me stuff you tampered w. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563280) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 4:16 AM Author: Aggressive pit rigpig Ya’ Ona,
Many courts have recognized that metadata can contain or reveal privileged information or work product. Here, the length of the redaction can be used to possibly discern information contained therein.
*guy who uses adobe redaction tool and then prints and scans* |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 9:11 AM Author: Misunderstood church building gaping Some metadata may, perhaps, be privileged. What is the privilege you're claiming in, say, the file creation date?
Additionally, provide me case law on whether the length of the redaction can, itself, be privileged. Briefs are due no later than 5:00pm today on ECF.
Have some yutes help you with the computer stuff. |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Massive Theater "this is good because it removes information about the length of the excised material and not just the material itself"
it boggles the mind how software with a redaction feature doesn't automatically change widths of redacted content for this reason |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 9:51 AM Author: Overrated razzle-dazzle windowlicker headpube Select text and hit alt+f4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353325) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:23 AM Author: Laughsome trailer park half-breed put black text boxes over the redacted area, print the PDF to Tiff images, recombine the Tiff images into a PDF. only way to be sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353455) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:51 AM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman lolz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37606343) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 9:35 AM Author: domesticated spruce mother brunch I do black highlighter in adobe then print and scan. I thought even the adobe redaction tool could be removed with the right software. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353259) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:37 AM Author: claret nofapping blood rage location I've never heard such a thing. The redaction tool is destructive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353512) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: seedy bonkers lodge travel guidebook Yeah I was told that the redact tool literally removes the data it covers up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353526) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: maniacal talented library background story You have to remove metadata after applying redactions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353531) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:13 PM Author: yellow locus You must be thinking of "undelete".
The redaction tool 100% destroys whatever was being redacted. |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:01 AM Author: seedy bonkers lodge travel guidebook NOTE TO OP: litigator = killself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353367) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:42 AM Author: white boistinker hospital lmao at how MAF people got here because some poasters didn't know how to do a thing that most normal people never have to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353547) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: pearl stimulating house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353559) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 10:45 AM Author: Overrated razzle-dazzle windowlicker headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37353568) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354103) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: flatulent autistic rehab patrolman This boart isn’t for normal people. It’s for lawyers (pro tip, tranny lawyers aren’t real lawyers) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354110) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Glittery Drab Associate Shitlib Never had to do this. Wouldn't know how but would probably just ask firm documents $lut$ to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354121) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Territorial piazza keepsake machete lol the majesty of redacting documents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354170) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354173) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 7:27 AM Author: white boistinker hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359241) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: fragrant apoplectic forum Tells you a lot about the people who poast here. Now imagine sharing personal information and receiving advice and feedback from these people who flip out over another's ignorance of proper redactions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359969) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:41 PM Author: cordovan stain Cr just do Pdf all the time. Duh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563256) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:07 PM Author: Lime spectacular jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37560843) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:01 PM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman the Manafort first year associate isn't laughing right now... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37561201) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Maize fantasy-prone mediation gay wizard lmfao at litigators (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37354136) |
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Date: December 5th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: thriller irate property roast beef the longer i stay, the dumber the first years get
one asked me today - when he had trouble accessing a dataroom - whether he should try the password "in your inbox" (sent to him by the administrator) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: Floppy Brilliant Resort Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37362948) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:47 AM Author: claret nofapping blood rage location Internal reports indicate that firefighters are ███████. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37358670) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: Rusted stag film legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359961) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Lime spectacular jap Love a good redaction fuck up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359283) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Charismatic charcoal whorehouse pocket flask Why did WLMAS alt get so angry in here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359881) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: sinister ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359925) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: pearl stimulating house who's the wlmas alt? fscknut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359933) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:48 AM Author: Charismatic charcoal whorehouse pocket flask Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359938) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: pearl stimulating house makes sense ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359952) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:53 AM Author: Irradiated chapel fortuitous meteor When I was in shitlaw, Id literally highlight with an actual blackmarker and then scan it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359973) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 10:53 AM Author: pearl stimulating house seems like that would be more effective than using a computer tool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37359977) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: claret nofapping blood rage location It can be less effective. If you're scanning in (particularly in grayscale or color), the scanner sometimes picks up small differences in reflectivity and color between the underlying text and the marker. If you have an auto sharpening setting, it can make the difference even clearer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37360798) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: cordovan stain I’m going to gouge my eyes out now that I’ve read this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563319) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:54 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy Amazing that law school doesn't have any training on redaction or searching with WestLaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563338) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: canary filthpig I sometimes use the adobe redaction tool but that’s because I’m in house and don’t have ediscovery software like concordance or relativity to redact and scrub metadata. What sort of ghetto ass firm uses adobe acrobat to redact docs? Also first year associates should never be redacting anything, only marking things for redaction. Making the redactions is the job for the paralegal/ediscovery vendor. I’d be pissed as the client to pay $500/hr for a first year to make redactions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37361350) |
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Date: December 6th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: seedy bonkers lodge travel guidebook you don't actually write on the bill that you made the redactions... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37362968) |
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Date: January 8th, 2019 5:15 PM Author: Mildly autistic aromatic lay well someone didn't read this thread
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1082708700077481987 |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman 180!!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37561193) |
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Date: January 8th, 2019 5:20 PM Author: Slate Business Firm print out the page. physically cut out the redacted words. then scan it. otherwise the metacodes will get you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37553908) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 3:23 PM Author: seedy bonkers lodge travel guidebook http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4173325&mc=22&forum_id=2#37560386 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37560489) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 9:23 PM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37562852) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman Holy shit. XO really could teach most lawyers a thing or two!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37561196) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:38 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563235) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: shimmering senate dog poop I don't even know how to black highlight (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563284) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 2:36 AM Author: cowardly yarmulke skinny woman you just highlight but change the color to black, which you can easily do in word or adobe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37564077) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:48 PM Author: cordovan stain This is why I print things up and mark up aW A PEN and scan and e-mail back. Call me boomer blah blah i don’t gaf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563287) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy Demoralize opposition by not letting them search text and driving up their fees? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37563308) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:56 AM Author: Charismatic charcoal whorehouse pocket flask Correct. I "save as" the completed pdf to Tiff, then print Tiff (Ctrl-P) to "save as" back to pdf before sending anything to counsel. Fuck them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37606353) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 8:30 AM Author: elite concupiscible orchestra pit therapy https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/paul-manafort-lawyers-failed-to-redact-documents/579910/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37564523) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:53 AM Author: Charismatic charcoal whorehouse pocket flask I used to stretch those thin black lines over the text (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#37606346) |
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Date: April 18th, 2019 11:46 AM Author: Mildly autistic aromatic lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4149270&forum_id=2#38106441) |