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Jus so we’re 100% clear, evolution didn’t happen

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swashbuckling address rigor
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So we're all boltzmann brains or what?
irradiated seedy keepsake machete
  12/14/18
bro, just throw some chemicals in a stormy ocean, wait a few...
Sticky Hyperactive Stage
  12/14/18
Humans literally have no concept of "billion"
irradiated seedy keepsake machete
  12/14/18
Even if we had a reasonable solution to the abiogenesis prob...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
explain how consciousness is evidence of a personal creator
Provocative Azn Set
  12/14/18
do you believe intentional, phenomenal consciousness exists?...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
Irrationality is dangerous
Infuriating Dog Poop
  12/14/18
Suprarationality is not more, and in my view is less, danger...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
(introvert autist shut-in slowly going crazy)
Infuriating Dog Poop
  12/14/18
To be real blunt, you sound like a shitlib
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
"I don't understand consciousness, so it has to be magi...
Fragrant tattoo
  12/14/18
Perceptual investigations are in principle unable to “...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
laughably wrong
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Really good take
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
your thoughtless babbling deserved nothing more
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
I wouldn’t agree that it’s thoughtless, in fact ...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
i'm familiar with the terms, and you're babbling. if you pu...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Go ahead and quote genesis 2:7 from memory
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
so now whether evolution happened hinges on whether i rememb...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
So when you say you’re familiar with the terms you mea...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
see, you're making dumb mistakes. it's quite possible i kno...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Lol this is spaceporn
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
wrong again! but let's talk more about how utterly stupid y...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Lol spaceporn
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
on some level, i think you know i'm not spaceporn, but spamm...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Not a single objection itst spaceporn
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
you're clinging to this because you know you can't defend yo...
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
Again, spaceporn, not a single objection itst
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
i'm obviously not spaceporn. don't sound anything like him....
lavender blathering range newt
  12/14/18
can't stop laughing at how incredibly wrong this is. holy s...
lavender blathering range newt
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Few honest interlocutors would argue with you
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Nonsciencemo here but have they ever recreated a mutation or...
Concupiscible mad-dog skullcap meetinghouse
  12/14/18
wolves evolved into dogs, therefore amino acids evolved into...
Sticky Hyperactive Stage
  12/14/18
Bad argument. There are possible worlds where this happens ...
swashbuckling address rigor
  12/14/18
but science
Sticky Hyperactive Stage
  12/14/18
*puts consciousness in beaker*
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*energized futurama brains bouncing off beaker walls*
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"There are no possible worlds that atheistic matter gen...
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Doing great keep it up
swashbuckling address rigor
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do you know what the "burden of proof" is
Fragrant tattoo
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Are you trying to litigate your relationship with Christ, di...
swashbuckling address rigor
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"All the other thousands of gods believed in by primiti...
Fragrant tattoo
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No way you’re serious with this sixth grade garbage
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No way you're serious with this "hurr hurr, just so we'...
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You’re doing great
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I could do even better if you posted one (1) reason to think...
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No thanks!
swashbuckling address rigor
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https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/whynotch...
Fragrant tattoo
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There are 2 kinds of atheists, “spaceporns” and ...
swashbuckling address rigor
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Why do you think it is that the majority of professional phi...
Fragrant tattoo
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Are you trying to argue against a omniscient diety with appe...
swashbuckling address rigor
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No. How the fuck did you manage to interpret my post as &quo...
Fragrant tattoo
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I would assogn most philosophers into the deeh, read: :D, ca...
swashbuckling address rigor
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If you have a successful argument for your supernatural beli...
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Hi Pumonymous, Thank you for your suggestion. I agree. On...
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You have impressively poor reading comprehension skills. I s...
Fragrant tattoo
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You have a lot of hate in your heart. Have you heard the goo...
swashbuckling address rigor
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I have heard it! "“Let's say that the consensu...
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It’s really weird when someone who isn’t a Chris...
swashbuckling address rigor
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Do you ever feel bad for all the people who lived during the...
Fragrant tattoo
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Haven’t really thought about it. Don’t really si...
swashbuckling address rigor
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Odd that your god denied all pre-Iron Age humans the chance ...
Fragrant tattoo
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Think you mean “the God”, in whose presence theo...
swashbuckling address rigor
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Yes, I'm sure there was a deep, cosmic reason for why that o...
Fragrant tattoo
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Now you’re gettin it
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great subthread, we don't get many like these anymore
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LJL
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Lol
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You're living in one
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cliffs? you don't believe in evolution mig?
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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410089)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Laughsome High-end Bbw Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410097)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: irradiated seedy keepsake machete

So we're all boltzmann brains or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410116)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: Sticky Hyperactive Stage

bro, just throw some chemicals in a stormy ocean, wait a few billion years, and you'll get elephants and Englishmen. science has it all figured out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410119)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: irradiated seedy keepsake machete

Humans literally have no concept of "billion"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410134)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Even if we had a reasonable solution to the abiogenesis problem, intentional human consciousness is evidence of a personal creator. The meat bag isn’t terribly relevant unless you get really hung up on genesis 2:7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410138)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: Provocative Azn Set

explain how consciousness is evidence of a personal creator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410141)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

do you believe intentional, phenomenal consciousness exists?

If so, of what is intentionality a property (put stupidly, where are qualia)?

The answer isn’t matter. The answer has to be some existing thing of which our minds are made.

It’s had to explain without religious language

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410161)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Infuriating Dog Poop

Irrationality is dangerous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410167)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Suprarationality is not more, and in my view is less, dangerous than inductive rationality. The latter ime leads to more hubris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410170)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: Infuriating Dog Poop

(introvert autist shut-in slowly going crazy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410173)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

To be real blunt, you sound like a shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410175)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

"I don't understand consciousness, so it has to be magic"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410209)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Perceptual investigations are in principle unable to “understand” consciousness

Do you even acknowledge Kant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410223)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

laughably wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410146)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Really good take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410162)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

your thoughtless babbling deserved nothing more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410194)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

I wouldn’t agree that it’s thoughtless, in fact I know for certain it’s not

As to whether it’s babbling, that probably depends on whether you’re familiar with the terms

As to what I deserve, of course only god knows what I deserve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410203)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

i'm familiar with the terms, and you're babbling. if you put any thought into it, i feel bad for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410207)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Go ahead and quote genesis 2:7 from memory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410210)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

so now whether evolution happened hinges on whether i remember what genesis 2:7 says? the universe sure turned out to be weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410222)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

So when you say you’re familiar with the terms you mean you aren’t familiar with the relevant religious terms?

Could you tell me what you think Christians mean when they say that god is personal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410228)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

see, you're making dumb mistakes. it's quite possible i know what's in genesis 2 (i do) but don't trust myself totally on the division into verses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410234)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Lol this is spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410239)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:59 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

wrong again! but let's talk more about how utterly stupid your argument is, and by extension, how utterly stupid you must be. human consciousness as evidence of a creator? you're truly just waving your hands. i'm sure you can't possibly explain what one has to do with the other, but it will be fun to watch you flail, so please proceed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410242)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Lol spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410243)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

on some level, i think you know i'm not spaceporn, but spamming "lol spaceporn" relieves you of the obligation to defend your views and baring your stupidity for us all to enjoy at your expense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410288)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Not a single objection itst spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410289)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

you're clinging to this because you know you can't defend your views. all that's projecting you from the harsh realization that you're a moron is calling me spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410336)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Again, spaceporn, not a single objection itst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410341)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

i'm obviously not spaceporn. don't sound anything like him. but now you're committed i guess, and being a moron but not admitting it is somehow better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410419)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: lavender blathering range newt

can't stop laughing at how incredibly wrong this is. holy shit you are dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37412489)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: Soul-stirring university

Few honest interlocutors would argue with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410143)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:30 PM
Author: brilliant tanning salon incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410151)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible mad-dog skullcap meetinghouse

Nonsciencemo here but have they ever recreated a mutation or something in a lab environment that corroborates evolution? I just have a hard time believing octopi mutated to the point where they mimic other animals or that one insect that makes itself look like a snake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410176)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:42 PM
Author: Sticky Hyperactive Stage

wolves evolved into dogs, therefore amino acids evolved into eagles. It's just a matter of time, pretty obvious stuff, ya know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410185)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:43 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Bad argument. There are possible worlds where this happens

There are no possible worlds that atheistic matter generates minds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410191)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: Sticky Hyperactive Stage

but science

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410196)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

*puts consciousness in beaker*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410205)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: hilarious parlour indirect expression

*energized futurama brains bouncing off beaker walls*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410817)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

"There are no possible worlds that atheistic matter generates minds"

There are possible worlds where you can make a non-retarded argument to support this, but I doubt this is one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410271)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Doing great keep it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410291)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

do you know what the "burden of proof" is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410297)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Are you trying to litigate your relationship with Christ, dipshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410308)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

"All the other thousands of gods believed in by primitive tribesmen are fake, but the one my parents taught me to believe in happens to be real"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410322)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

No way you’re serious with this sixth grade garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410337)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

No way you're serious with this "hurr hurr, just so we're clear, my religious beliefs are definitely true"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410372)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

You’re doing great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410376)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

I could do even better if you posted one (1) reason to think any of your Christian bullshit is true, to which I could then respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410388)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

No thanks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410398)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/whynotchristian.html

thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410401)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

There are 2 kinds of atheists, “spaceporns” and “deehs”. You are a deeh, which is the odder of the two. marked by thin argumentation, your style is more engaging, and you miss the point less than the spaceporn, but because of your shallowness you would probably only reach osteen levels of Christian understanding. Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410418)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

Why do you think it is that the majority of professional philosophers, people who are highly trained in the sorts of things you're posting about (intentionality, qualia, etc.) are atheists? (source: https://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl)

And which of the the two types of atheist (the "deranged internet forum poster" kind and the "gibberish word you just made up" kind) do most philosophers fall into, do you think?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410437)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Are you trying to argue against a omniscient diety with appeal to the authority of academic philosophers ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410448)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

No. How the fuck did you manage to interpret my post as ">50% of philosophers are atheists, ergo no gods exist"?

I was responding to your suggestion that all atheists fall into one of two categories, both of which you've suggested are ignorant/silly/philosophically careless/etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410460)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

I would assogn most philosophers into the deeh, read: :D, category

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410473)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

If you have a successful argument for your supernatural beliefs, why don't you publish it in an academic journal? Surely your fellow godmos would appreciate the effort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410481)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Hi Pumonymous,

Thank you for your suggestion. I agree. Ones beliefs are justified just in case they are published in an “academic” “journal”.

I renounce my faith.

In science,

TiG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410488)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

You have impressively poor reading comprehension skills. I suppose it's unsurprising that someone of your intellectual caliber is susceptible to Christian-apologetic sophistry.

Let me spell it out for you: my encouraging you to publish your evidence for your Iron Age war god was not meant to imply that your belief in such would only be justified upon publication. It was meant to imply that if you have some sort of persuasive reason for Christian belief that countless numbers of highly intelligent, reflective, philosophically inclined people have managed to overlook, it's strange that you're keeping it a secret from the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410498)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

You have a lot of hate in your heart. Have you heard the good news about our savior Christ Jesus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410508)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

I have heard it!

"“Let's say that the consensus is that our species, being the higher primates, Homo Sapiens, has been on the planet for at least 100,000 years, maybe more. Francis Collins says maybe 100,000. Richard Dawkins thinks maybe a quarter-of-a-million. I'll take 100,000. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that for 98,000 years, our species suffered and died, most of its children dying in childbirth, most other people having a life expectancy of about 25 years, dying of their teeth. Famine, struggle, bitterness, war, suffering, misery, all of that for 98,000 years.

Heaven watches this with complete indifference. And then 2000 years ago, thinks 'That's enough of that. It's time to intervene,' and the best way to do this would be by condemning someone to a human sacrifice somewhere in the less literate parts of the Middle East. Don't lets appeal to the Chinese, for example, where people can read and study evidence and have a civilization. Let's go to the desert and have another revelation there."

Something like that, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410520)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

It’s really weird when someone who isn’t a Christian thinks they can summarize the nature and import of Christian doctrine in a way that would make even the Christian reconsider their faith when all theyre really doing is becoming increasingly stylistically polarized so that any hope of engagement with the other side is lost and they’re just left bitter because they have no god and no Christ and, when you look at where atheism is going, no self

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410530)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

Do you ever feel bad for all the people who lived during the tens of thousands of years of human history prior to the invention of your religion and its predecessors, who had to go through life with "no Christ"? How they must have suffered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410537)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Haven’t really thought about it. Don’t really sit around thinking about old people a lot, you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410548)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Abnormal silver international law enforcement agency party of the first part

But it's important, because if they lived happy meaningful lives without Christ, then maybe Christ is irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410550)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Odd to think knowledge of the fundamental nature of reality is disposable simply because of the presence of a superficial mood state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410563)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

Odd that your god denied all pre-Iron Age humans the chance to partake of this crucial knowledge of the fundamental nature of reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410566)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:27 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Think you mean “the God”, in whose presence theodic questions aren’t simply “what best for hooman rn?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410578)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

Yes, I'm sure there was a deep, cosmic reason for why that one particular group of Iron Age savages was chosen to get to witness the divine miracle while everyone else has to take their word for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410583)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:31 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Now you’re gettin it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410586)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: ultramarine mood

great subthread, we don't get many like these anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410669)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Abnormal silver international law enforcement agency party of the first part

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410540)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:44 PM
Author: Spruce beady-eyed market degenerate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410630)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Abnormal silver international law enforcement agency party of the first part

You're living in one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410479)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Ocher Insane Digit Ratio

cliffs? you don't believe in evolution mig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410408)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

I’m not an atheist and have no use for a deranged depersonalize chain reaction of this sort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410510)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: heady church masturbator

i believe you that consciousness is hard wired into the rules of the universe.

even if it's explainable, it's going to be the most complicated set of rules imaginable. an impossible complexity.

so we are left with 2 explanations: a multiverse where we hit the jackpot or a designed environment (which could be a created universe, simulation, something weirder).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410424)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:44 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Brother there would be no means of deducing the rules of consciousness because consciousness is not publicly available for observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410429)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: heady church masturbator

i'm not sure if one day we won't figure out some basics.

i'm not saying this is any way equivalent but it is analagous in some way: the fact that scientists can predict what a person is thinking now in a real limited fashion with brain scans.

maybe one day we'll be able to design a consciousness computer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410446)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Even chumbucket chalmers thinks a consciousness detector is ludicrous!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410457)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: heady church masturbator

well i bet we would be convinced by a basically human-like AI that could dictate it's own plans and hopes and do math and art and enjoy books and live a life of the mind--at that point, i bet you'd probably concede it was conscious.

do i think that's possible? maybe one day starting small and just making it more powerful over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410472)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Sidenote Skinner arguments don’t work on me. There are no behavioral prerequisites to consciousness, nor are behaviors sufficient for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410483)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: razzle rough-skinned theater stage immigrant

no, its just random mutations that left bananas as a prewrapped fruit with a pop top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410570)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:31 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

cr. if god isn't real, why do bananas fit so perfectly in my ass? checkmate atheists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410589)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: out-of-control principal's office place of business

OP do you have a Chinese room in your house that you talk to about these things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410606)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

who needs a Chinese room when you have this Chinese internet forum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410618)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:45 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

What are you talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410633)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Fragrant tattoo

XO has many Chinese poasters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410774)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

that's really racist to say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37411884)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor

Yes, xoxohth.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410619)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: out-of-control principal's office place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410622)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: ultramarine mood

spaceporn SCREAMING IMPOTENTLY at his Gateway2000 computer screen reading this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410665)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: swashbuckling address rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410688)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: razzle rough-skinned theater stage immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410713)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Coral wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410731)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Infuriating Dog Poop

Gateway2000 seems extremely appropriate for a site like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410736)



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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Lilac Cruise Ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37412364)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Balding french chef sneaky criminal

(lib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156210&forum_id=2#37410684)