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US has spent $4.9 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:07 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut Plus $1 trillion for health care for post-9/11 veterans
America has spent $5.9 trillion on wars in the Middle East and Asia since 2001, a new study says Amanda Macias Published Wed, Nov 14 2018 • 5:15 PM EST Updated Thu, Nov 15 2018 • 9:55 AM EST H/O: Marines dust Afghanistan U.S. Marines and Georgian Army soldiers run to the extraction point during Operation Northern Lion II in Helmand province, Afghanistan, July 3, 2013. U.S. Marine Corps photo WASHINGTON — The U.S. wars and military action in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan have cost American taxpayers $5.9 trillion since they began in 2001, according to a new study.
That total is almost $2 trillion more than all federal government spending during the recently completed 2017-18 fiscal year.
The report, from Watson Institute of International and Public Affairs at Brown University, also finds that more than 480,000 people have died as a direct result of fighting. Over 244,000 civilians have been killed. Another 10 million people have been displaced due to violence.
The $5.9 trillion figure reflects the cost across the U.S. federal government since the price of war is not borne by the Defense Department alone, according to Neta Crawford, the study’s author.
In addition to the money spent by the Pentagon, Crawford says the report captures the “war-related spending by the Department of State, past and obligated spending for war veterans’ care, interest on the debt incurred to pay for the wars, and the prevention of and response to terrorism by the Department of Homeland Security.”
It breaks down like this, according to Crawford and the report:
Total U.S. war-related spending through fiscal year 2019 is $4.9 trillion. The other $1 trillion reflects estimates for the cost of health care for post-9/11 veterans. The Department of Veterans Affairs will be responsible for serving more than 4.3 million veterans by 2039. What’s more, longer wars will also increase the number of service members who will ultimately claim veterans benefits and disability payments.
The U.S. government spent $4.1 trillion during fiscal year 2018, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Treasury Department.
The Defense Department accounted for 14.7 percent of that, and the Department of Veterans Affairs accounted for 4.4 percent. |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter But over what time period? Past 20 years and future 30 years so spending over 50 years in total? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595614) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:11 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut I don't know what all the health care figure represents, but the $4.9 trillion war-related spending ostensibly represents actual spending since October 2001. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595626) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:12 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter 250 billion a year isn't even 2% of GDP. Not a drop in the bucket but nowhere enough to go broke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595632) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: Comical School Alpha so it was well worth it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595639) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter If Afghanistan is less $20 billion a year going forward, it might be worth it just to not have to throw in the towel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595658) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:51 PM Author: Exhilarant rusted range pisswyrm What’s the goal in Afghanistan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595913) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Status quo at worst, which prevents Taliban from coming back, avoids a repeat of the fall of Saigon, and denies Taliban leaders responsible for 9/11 the chance to gloat in victory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595955) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: lime center I thought a group of Saudis were responsible for 9/11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595960) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter The Taliban leaders hosted thousands of Al-Qaeda soldiers who had a base to train, plan, and launch jihad against the US. Do you think the Taliban were just negligent in what they did? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595980) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:03 PM Author: Comical School Alpha but what nationality were the hijackers and where did their funding come from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595989) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter So as long as the money and hijackers are Saudi, no matter how much other support the Taliban provides, it couldn't be considered a combined attack by both Al-Qaeda and the Taliban on the US? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596004) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: Comical School Alpha So why did we choose to invade one country and not the other? Help me understand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596018) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter The leaders of one country were joined at the hip with Al-Qaeda, the leaders of the other country were negligent in the dispersal of funds with some ending up with Al-Qaeda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596022) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: Comical School Alpha you should fucking kill yourself immediately (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596030) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter (Taliban appeaser) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596038) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 2:01 AM Author: Shivering Brunch Personal Credit Line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600713) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut If we have to stay there forever to keep them from allowing another 9/11, we should just nuke the whole place and just start over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596017) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: Exhilarant rusted range pisswyrm Until we’re so deeply indebted there is a dollar crisis and we leave broke and defeated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595968) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter What's $20 billion a year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595986) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595977) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: Comical School Alpha which 9/11 hijackers were Taliban? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595987) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:03 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter What level of responsibility do you think the Taliban should take for 9/11? Negligence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595993) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:05 PM Author: Comical School Alpha what about the country that funded AQ? Why haven't we invaded them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595999) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:07 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter That was just negligence on the Saudi part in providing the waterfall of money that ended up in Afghanistan and some consular support for the hijackers in the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596010) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: Comical School Alpha How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596029) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Those were the actions of individuals, not a country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596032) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:12 PM Author: Comical School Alpha So 15 of the hijackers came from SA and all of the money came from SA, but SA didn't have anything to do with it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596047) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:14 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Some of the money came from Saudi Arabia and not directly from the state so they were negligent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596057) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:15 PM Author: Comical School Alpha Uh, the money actually did come directly from the state. The government literally funded a dry run two years prior by two SA state agents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596066) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:19 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Hilarious fabrication to try to win an Internet argument. If there is a smoking gun like that it would have to be in the "28 pages". It has not been declassified. So at worst what we know is there was indirect funding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596094) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: Comical School Alpha It's almost like the US Government wanted to maintain good relations with SA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596299) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:50 AM Author: racy sapphire knife sanctuary >denies Taliban leaders responsible for 9/11 the chance to gloat in victory
20 years on I have to wonder which Taliban leaders responsible for 9/11 are still kicking around |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:41 AM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter If even 100 low and mid level Taliban officials who were part of the 911 era come back, it would be horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37638589) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: Fragrant people who are hurt piazza lol wut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595933) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:15 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut Alright quotemo, where else should we invade? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595650) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Stay in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595665) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: Rebellious yellow chad juggernaut The cost of war in Syria would have increased exponentially under any POTUS other than Trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595697) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: Comical School Alpha you're really full of great ideas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595725) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: Fragrant people who are hurt piazza haha wow holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595935) |
Date: January 15th, 2019 12:08 PM Author: bat shit crazy idea he suggested It’s been nearly 20 years. That’s a drop in the bucket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595611) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: blue submissive indian lodge We spent an entire Japan on this bull shit and tell me, what do we have to show for it? Can anyone name one thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595664) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Killed Osama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595668) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: blue submissive indian lodge Wow, only took over a decade and 5 trillion to shoot an old man on dialysis holed up in a desert shit box. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595719) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:29 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Not a great deal but better than nothing like you claim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595772) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:37 PM Author: blue submissive indian lodge Killing Osama was not directly related to our war efforts and was a goal but separate from and irrelevant to the wars so your point is actually moot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595837) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:56 PM Author: Fragrant people who are hurt piazza This quotemo is a retarded neocon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595941) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: cracking puce regret organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596016) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:37 AM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter Why did osama flee afghanistan? Direct result of the war to hunt him down and destroy the taliban. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600500) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: Avocado Nibblets lol you dumb fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595951) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:07 PM Author: cracking puce regret organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596013) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Comical School Alpha Could have paid for the entire Mars mission like 4x over (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595730) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:31 AM Author: navy arousing principal's office THANKS BUSH! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37638750) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: self-centered fat ankles macaca But no wall, too expensive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595753) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:41 AM Author: fantasy-prone milk Could easily have a 500-foot impenetrable wall for that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600519) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:31 AM Author: navy arousing principal's office it's thinking like that that got us Bush Jr, Iraq, penury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37638753) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:29 PM Author: cracking puce regret organic girlfriend That's so astoundingly batshit crazy, especially when you consider the national debt and the fact that we got nothing for that money (Afghanistan and Iraq are both shitshows). This is also why I DETEST neocons.
Also, lol @ everyone going nuts about $5 billion for the wall. This is literally 1000x that. Trump is saving that and more by avoiding pushes to stay in Afghanistan/Syria and go to war in a bunch of other places.
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: khaki menage striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595949) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:22 AM Author: big startled office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600882) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:54 PM Author: Talented Harsh Sandwich Gunner iraq clearly a colossal fuckup in retrospect but i don't think going into afghanistan was realistically up for debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595924) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: Avocado Nibblets sure but we didn’t have to stay and try to build a country on quicksand
we could have slapped the Taliban around for 6 months, told them not to let AQ train there or we come back
the place would right now have less terrorism and less poppy production if we had done so |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:16 PM Author: Talented Harsh Sandwich Gunner maybe. seems more likely a damned if we do/if we don't scenario to me. just bouncing the rubble for 6mos then leaving the country in total disarray would have severely undercut our post 9/11 moral highground and damaged US international standing and prestige. i could maybe see hitting and leaving as something we could sell if we'd gotten OBL in the initial shock and awe, much more difficult in a world where he escapes at tora bora, imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596068) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:23 AM Author: big startled office isn't that kind of what we did in the 90s?
if there wasn't a dramatic response to 9/11 people would have rioted. |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 5:45 AM Author: Avocado Nibblets lol what? in the 90s I don’t recall anything more dramatic than a few cruise missile strikes. invading a country and beating the fuck out of them for 6 months would have been dramatic enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37601043) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: Fragrant people who are hurt piazza The US is shit at war termination.
We dont go in with clear, limited goals that we stick to. This is the danger of the MIC, they find a way to keep these limited wars going for decades. |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: cracking puce regret organic girlfriend tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596020) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:16 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter People don't want the war to terminate if it looks like Vietnam, would rather give it several more years if it can be done at low cost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596075) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:22 PM Author: Avocado Nibblets Vietnam is looking pretty good now.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596112) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:25 PM Author: magenta hell faggot firefighter The military felt shitty about itself for 10-15 years. Really dragged down the national mood for a long period too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596146) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:40 PM Author: Fragrant people who are hurt piazza We misdiagnosed Vietnam from the beginning, which led to ever increasing commitment and expanding war aims.
The US needs to stop with limited wars. We arent good at them and they destroy our readiness for the real thing. |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:25 PM Author: Talented Harsh Sandwich Gunner good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596142) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 1:14 PM Author: cordovan field karate CR. What could GWB do after 9/11. Sometimes I think our government should have known better. Maybe should have foreseen the potential clusterfuck. But I get invading A. Iraq was inexcusable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37596055) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 2:30 AM Author: Impertinent Liquid Oxygen Bomb them into stone age
No foot soldiers, at least minimal, fuck shit up then leave ASAP |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: lime center Imagine the world we'd live in with $5 trillion invested in human germ line modification, or video game AI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37595958) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:44 AM Author: idiotic purple hospital antidepressant drug imagine if we literally just burned $5 trillion in cash. just lit it on fire, Joker style
would have been 1000x better for our country than what actually happened with that $5 trillion |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 4:28 AM Author: Cerebral degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37638701) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:55 AM Author: Supple dog poop yarmulke More money wouldnt speed up that shit. Very few people with high enough IQs exist to materially advance the sciences any faster than they already are. Throwing legions of 120 IQ bros at the problem does nothing. There is already more money funding research than can be put to good use. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600566) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:26 AM Author: big startled office is this true? science bros i know complain about funding a lot. spend a lot of time searching for grants and other administrative bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600888) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:43 AM Author: Shivering Brunch Personal Credit Line but cant do medicare for all!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600527) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 2:02 AM Author: Electric forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600718) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:52 AM Author: Greedy Learning Disabled Mad Cow Disease Casino a trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you're talking real money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37600560) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: navy arousing principal's office (Zombie Sen. Proxmire) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37601049) |
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Date: January 16th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: navy arousing principal's office Could have had a Mars colony for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4178237&forum_id=2#37601048) |