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The California pension crisis is going to get very bad
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:43 PM Author: Pearl Spot Once boomers raise taxes every year to pay for boomer pensions. Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609209) |
Date: January 17th, 2019 2:43 PM Author: Soggy School Hominid plus spouses inherit CA pensions...so have to wait until both die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609212) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:44 PM Author: Pearl Spot Jfc this makes me so mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609222) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:16 PM Author: Indecent Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609452) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:47 PM Author: lake awkward school cafeteria philosopher-king That sort of arrangement always struck me as absurd. My father has a pension from a government contractor, but at retirement he had to choose between a full pension that would terminate at his death or a smaller pension that would keep paying my mother after his death. That's more reasonable because you can make them actuarially the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609245) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:01 PM Author: Charismatic bossy pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609328) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:57 PM Author: Scarlet abusive senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609299) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:20 PM Author: Fuchsia arousing area My friend's father is a ~70 year old army colonel. He just recently married and had a kid with a 37 year old. LJL at this chick getting $100k / year til death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609487) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: lake awkward school cafeteria philosopher-king Enterprising old men could go after even younger women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609539) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:27 PM Author: Onyx Sanctuary Sweet Tailpipe Military pension pays 55% to survivors. Don't know the rules for med benefits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609545) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor Brilliant move by the shrew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609559) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: Soggy School Hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609762) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:10 PM Author: Appetizing prole nibblets Wasn't this super common among civil war vets? Supposedly the last civil war widow pensioner died not so long ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609805) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:16 AM Author: turquoise dashing brunch Let's say you served in the civil war at age 16 in 1865.
You would be 95 in 1944. Could marry a 20 yr old gold digger named Bambi.
Bambi could still be alive turning 95 this year, collecting her Civil War Widows pension. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:18 AM Author: turquoise dashing brunch Alberta Martin, one of the last known Confederate war widows and the last widow whose marriage to a Confederate soldier produced offspring. She died May 31, 2004. Gertrude Janeway, last known widow of a Union veteran of the Civil War. She died January 17, 2003. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614392) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:25 AM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614428) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:35 AM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor Rofl
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:36 AM Author: Territorial casino 180 system-gaming (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614489) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:35 PM Author: vivacious incel masturbator Gertrude Grubb was born in Blaine, Tennessee and courted by John Janeway beginning when she was 16. Her mother, widowed when Gertrude was only 13, would not allow her to marry until she was 18. She married John Janeway, an officer in the 14th Illinois Cavalry, in 1927 when she was 18 and he 81. The marriage ceremony took place in the middle of a dirt road with family and friends in attendance. They lived together in a log cabin in Blaine, Tennessee, until John Janeway's death in 1937.[1] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616354) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:36 PM Author: vivacious incel masturbator After moving to Opp, Alabama, she met widower William Jasper Martin, born in 1845 and a veteran of the 4th Alabama Infantry, a Confederate unit during the Civil War. On December 10, 1927, the then-21-year-old Stewart married the 81-year-old Martin, primarily to get help raising her son and because his $50 per month Confederate pension check guaranteed her a degree of financial security. She gave birth to a second son, Willie Martin, 10 months after her wedding to William Jasper Martin, who was 82 at the time of the child's birth. William Jasper Martin died in 1931.[2] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616365) |
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Date: January 27th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37672514) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:37 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609618) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:59 PM Author: salmon floppy ticket booth legal warrant It's already worse than that in Illinois (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609311) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:00 PM Author: comical fishy telephone trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609322) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:27 PM Author: Excitant Hairy Legs :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609891) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:05 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610936) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:33 PM Author: vivacious incel masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616346) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:10 PM Author: Lascivious Spruce Lodge Codepig You can be sure they'll only raise income tax so youngs pay up, while boomers continue to pay next to no property tax on their $6 million Palo Alto homes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609391) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:17 PM Author: Indecent Menage Boomers can pass their sweet property tax deal on to their kids too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609461) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: Translucent Pontificating Range Mad-dog Skullcap Infuriating. How the fuck is that progressive to these idiot liberals. God I hate how stupid this state is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609563) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:36 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig liberals didn't create Cali's weird property tax system. They did have a big hand in their pension crisis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609605) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:58 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel when your party has a legislative supermajority and the governorship, you are responsible for EVERYTHING. no excuses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609730) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:00 PM Author: sick house lettuce Prop 13 was created by two archconservative Republicans through the initiative process. The legislature and governorship had nothing to do with it. The only thing liberal about any of it is that Paul Gann died of AIDS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610543) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:18 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel so what? with a supermajority, the legislature can literally just change the state constitution and override propositions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37611015) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:20 AM Author: turquoise dashing brunch Not in California. Needs statewide vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614404) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:59 PM Author: Adventurous lime church building stock car this thread makes me so mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616154) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: Indecent Menage There will be a massive wave of municipal bankruptcies at some point.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prophet-of-muni-market-doom-wasnt-wrongjust-early-1540554098
The American Legislative Exchange Council determined that, using more realistic assumptions, Connecticut, Illinois and New Jersey are just 19.7%, 23.3% and 25.7% funded, respectively. That is far worse than even the worst major corporate pension plans, which unlike state and city ones are federally insured. |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig States can't file for bankruptcy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609560) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:30 PM Author: Onyx Sanctuary Sweet Tailpipe Somebody doesn't know what municipal means. Can't tell if you or him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609579) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:34 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig His second paragraph mentions the underfunded liabilities for state pension plans. The muni's can certainly take advantage of bankruptcy. The states can't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609600) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: Indecent Menage I am talking about cities, that was what the article was all about. I just thought that the state data was informative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609637) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:09 PM Author: blathering affirmative action Home prices in even nice North Shore Chicago burbs have lost tens of thousands in value as property taxes have now gone up to the point they are matching the P&I in monthly payments for many homeowners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37640587) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:33 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig Option A: A 1% property tax in addition to existing property taxes would take care of Illinois' pension problems. It's a big fat increase but theoretically doable (you could even make it progressive based on income). Something similar could be done in Cali.
http://midwest.chicagofedblogs.org/?p=3096
Option B: Open up the pension plan to everyone and require all private employers to contribute.
Option C: Amend bankruptcy laws to permit states to go into bankruptcy. |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:38 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor C is the only option.
Illinois and Chicago have routinely demonstrated that higher taxes don’t solve their problems. 1% higher property taxes won’t be responsibly spent.
B would be a total clusterfuck |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: Charismatic bossy pocket flask I personally like Option D: telling these boomers "fuck you i'm not paying" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609636) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:41 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor So fleeing the state? Already happening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609650) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:44 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig "1% higher property taxes won’t be responsibly spent."
Well the plan would require that all of the 1% prop tax be dedicated to the state pension plans. But it's possible that some creative government accounting can get around that. |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610080) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:50 PM Author: Pearl Spot C (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609686) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:56 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig I agree, but I think big labor is going to have something to say about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609721) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:59 PM Author: mildly autistic doctorate theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609744) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:37 PM Author: motley parlour water buffalo Option D. The money runs out of the pension funds, and no more money is paid to pensioners. Judges order property taxes are raised 2% or more, and income taxes are raised 10% or more. People revolt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609962) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:45 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel you're basically talking about "constructive bankruptcy," when there is no formal bankruptcy, but the non-existence of actual funds causes a situation that LOOKS like bankruptcy. that would be an ungodly mess. this was actually what illinois was looking at in 2009 during the stock market low, before the decade-long boom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610023) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:55 PM Author: motley parlour water buffalo Interesting. The dems have a supermajority in the statehouse, and the newly elected dem governor has said that he won’t touch the pensions or support a constitutional amendment to cut them. There really aren’t any other options besides raising taxes in an already overtaxed state.
Illinois is the only state in the Midwest losing population and you will see a mass exodus if taxes are raised to meet the obligations, which are extraordinarily generous as it is. |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:57 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor That which is not sustainable will not be sustained. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610070) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 5:02 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel the question is the role of the feds. let's say that a democrat (perhaps even a california democrat like newsome or kamala) holds the white house when california's pension system implodes. will there be federal intervention (or federal RESERVE intervention) in the manner of the 2008 bank bailouts? there might be. the feds could always absorb a few trillion more in debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610093) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 5:01 PM Author: Charismatic bossy pocket flask bad for the US Senate, as the people who leave tend to continue to vote Democrat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610088) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:15 PM Author: Crimson contagious stead old irish cottage C is the only option, it's just a matter of when it happens and who "gets theirs" first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37640629) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:53 PM Author: disturbing rehab Pensions are an anachronism, a relic of a bygone era. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609703) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:54 PM Author: Charismatic bossy pocket flask Public pensions are especially offensive because they are basically predicated on just stealing from people in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609710) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609726) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:00 PM Author: Lascivious Spruce Lodge Codepig Yep, Pensions are an anachronism, a relic of a bygone era. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609746) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:35 PM Author: hot jet hell azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614925) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel california in particular has no excuse for this, since it has the 5th-biggest economy in the fucking world with only 40 million people. assuming it saved and invested wisely over the decades, it should have a sovereign wealth fund on par with that of norway or the gulf states by now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609760) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:03 PM Author: Lascivious Spruce Lodge Codepig The public employees have a sovereign wealth fund on par with Norway and the Gulf States (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609766) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:36 PM Author: Self-centered corner liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609946) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610081) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 5:54 PM Author: sickened garrison newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37610499) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:43 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37615746) |
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Date: January 27th, 2019 12:34 PM Author: misanthropic business firm devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37672541) |
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Date: January 27th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37672607) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:03 PM Author: Provocative godawful dingle berry CA will raise the income tax rate to around 40% and that will be that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609769) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:05 PM Author: Pearl Spot You dont think ppl will protest this??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609778) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:06 PM Author: amethyst becky chapel probably not. californians don't even protest massive public sector salaries and benefits. and democrats (who support higher taxes) run the entire state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609784) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:21 PM Author: Pearl Spot I think it's because they are not aware of high insanely high these salaries and pennies are. Most Californians think teachers barely earn a livable wage. And most people think cops and fire fighters DO NOT abuse the overtime system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37611030) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:22 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor Just do 80% total tax rate nbd bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609866) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: mildly autistic doctorate theatre THE RICH HAVE TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37609916) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:11 AM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614356) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:30 AM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614462) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:44 AM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor Marginally taxes will go up every year in CA. Sometimes actual taxes, sometimes in the form of fees or fewer services. Little by little more and more poor people will move in due to the appeal of the weather and the fact that they don’t really pay taxes, and the MC and UMC will continue to move out.
This is already happening as SF can’t even clean the shit and needles from their streets, can’t police the streets or public transportation. CA has the most income inequality of any state. CA already has net negative migration and I’d wager has a net positive minority migration which means whitey is fleeing. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:45 AM Author: White cruise ship good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614539) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:45 AM Author: sable windowlicker my bro's parents both retired on CA pension. they live in a condo in Maui and are STILL putting money away in savings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614540) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:47 AM Author: Pearl Spot Their age? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614551) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: sable windowlicker early 70's. history on longevity in fam and neither smoked or drank ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37614939) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: magical laughsome forum private investor What a dull life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37615702) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: sable windowlicker he kayaks and goes snorkeling every day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616146) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:04 PM Author: Charismatic bossy pocket flask one thing that really chaps my hide about pensioners is how they leave those states.
if you are getting a pension you should be required to reside in the state, so that at the very least you are supporting the local economy and paying taxes |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:43 PM Author: Self-centered corner liquid oxygen Lol the state of Florida would depopulate over night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616092) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: sable windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616147) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:33 PM Author: salmon floppy ticket booth legal warrant In Illinois, pensions are exempted from state income tax LMAO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616343) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:42 PM Author: beady-eyed gaped legend pozpig same in NY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616406) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 5:11 PM Author: salmon floppy ticket booth legal warrant Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616553) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:13 PM Author: blathering affirmative action Happened to my mother. Can’t move out of state because will lose that perk. Property taxes are outrageous though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37640614) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:52 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37616448) |
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Date: January 21st, 2019 7:52 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37636087) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:45 AM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37639801) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:00 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37640529) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 2:14 PM Author: Tan fragrant multi-billionaire No. Cucks in CA will just start paying 15 to 20% state tax. Libs will reinstate the state tax deduction and the rest of the country will subsidized this nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37640624) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 7:10 PM Author: Pearl Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179854&forum_id=2#37642674) |
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Date: January 27th, 2019 12:37 PM Author: misanthropic business firm I think if they raised property tax to 2% a HUGE amount of this problem would be taken care of, probably with potential for tax relief in other areas as well.
However, that means boomers have to pay a small amount more on what is still a laughably low cost basis. |