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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:08 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business i'm eligible now at my workplace, but seems unlikely to be worth it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621142) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:11 PM Author: Hairless maize becky Do you want to live off of welfare when you're 70+? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621165) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:15 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business i don't expect to live into my 70s, unfortunately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621198) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:54 PM Author: exciting corner why not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621420) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:59 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business drank a lot in stretches over the last decade and my father didn't make it to 70. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621442) |
Date: January 19th, 2019 2:08 PM Author: flatulent point do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621148) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:09 PM Author: Brindle judgmental center Is there a match?
Do you have high AGI? |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:12 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business i think there's a match. i've been super busy at work so i didn't get a chance to look carefully at the email they sent me, other than that i'm now eligible.
as i said, i'm almost 40; 0 savings or assets; -60k or worse net worth; in default on most law school loans; make under 80k. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:14 PM Author: bateful range twinkling uncleanness lmao, is this a flame thread?
You're really dumb if a match exists. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:16 PM Author: Brindle judgmental center Find out what the match is and contribute up to that.
If you have more to save, put it in a Roth. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:18 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business thank you. i will look into all of this on my lunch break when i'm back in the office tuesday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621225) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:11 PM Author: beady-eyed painfully honest chapel reading party how did this happen? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621166) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:12 PM Author: talented school friendly grandma This is 95% of america (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621182) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:16 PM Author: Yapping meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621209) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:08 PM Author: Unholy twisted library haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621475) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: grizzly coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37622023) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 7:27 PM Author: bisexual psychic seriously? i'm willing to believe this but how do you know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37622821) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:13 PM Author: green metal tanning salon macaca shit happens man you need to get some perspective. Lets help this bro out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621184) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:16 PM Author: beady-eyed painfully honest chapel reading party i’m not about to scold/laugh at someone in this spot it sucks. but the context is relevant to the right answer to his question though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621211) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:23 PM Author: green metal tanning salon macaca that's fair, maybe its how you said it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621262) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:35 PM Author: scarlet french public bath pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621319) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:16 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621212) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:11 PM Author: godawful giraffe why do you have no savings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621167) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:21 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business i've had shit paying jobs, and student loans, rent, etc. ate up all of my income. i also had a couple periods of unemployment where i had to use up the tiny bit of money i had in the bank.
i come from a poor family -- when i was a kid my parents would have to borrow money from *me* sometimes. and that was just money i had from birthdays. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:27 PM Author: godawful giraffe ljl i grew up eating government cheese and my dad couldn't hold a job but somehow i figured out how to save money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621283) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:32 PM Author: Spectacular Parlor Codepig Is it hard to understand that not everyone is lucky? Even if you grew up in shitty conditions and made it, a few things had to go your way. OP didn’t have the same good fortune. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621304) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:34 PM Author: godawful giraffe get out of here with that sjw shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621312) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: scarlet french public bath pistol no. fuck yu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621321) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:38 PM Author: godawful giraffe lmao "thome people are unlucky and they detherve thympathy" that's you, that's what you sound like (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621340) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:46 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621381) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:11 PM Author: Jet-lagged multi-colored double fault Line of work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621169) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:37 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business compliance type stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621637) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:13 PM Author: bateful range twinkling uncleanness Do you get a match? If no, then the answer is still yes. You should contribute ROTH if a high earner and pre-tax if a low earner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621183) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:15 PM Author: Brindle judgmental center I think you have this backwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621197) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:20 PM Author: bateful range twinkling uncleanness Where do you think tax rates will be under AOC in 30 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621242) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:52 PM Author: Insanely creepy office Roth is flame imo. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. It's not like a 401k maxed out for 30 years is an incredible amount of money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621408) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:19 PM Author: vigorous factory reset button I would not in that position. I would use whatever savings to take some high risk, high reward gambles. Day trading, crypto, starting my own business, etc. You need to hit something big, and 401(k) won't do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621235) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:20 PM Author: godawful giraffe cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621239) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:22 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business this is what i had been thinking, particularly because i don't expect to live a particularly long life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621252) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:23 PM Author: Flickering Electric Filthpig Any way you can improve the $80K? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621261) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:48 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business yes. i'm with a pretty good company and i stand to be in line for raises. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621388) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:24 PM Author: vigorous factory reset button Whatever you choose, educate yourself. If you are going to trade pot stocks, learn technical analysis so you know about risk management. Don't just blindly YOLO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621266) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business ty. i definitely would not just blindly go YOLO; i enjoy research. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621398) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: white keepsake machete parlour You've said this a couple times in this thread, are you planning on going out Hunter S. style? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621740) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:19 PM Author: Flickering Electric Filthpig Contribute up to whatever your company matches, then use any excess cash to pay down debt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621237) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:30 PM Author: Cracking Bawdyhouse NEVER. DO. FRAUD. OH. ONE. KAY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621294) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:32 PM Author: talented school friendly grandma Rental properties would be better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621302) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:51 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business can't afford to buy any property, and my credit score is probably under 500 now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621402) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:34 PM Author: Aromatic olive trump supporter Offing yourself might be a better option at this point. How on earth did this happen? Did you at least have fun for the last two decades? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621314) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: medicated institution If suicide is the inevitable option he should just blow cash until hes old and then do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621326) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:57 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business i've thought about it, believe me. i had a higher net worth when i was in undergrad than i do now. i actually had a full scholarship to undergrad so left undergrad with no debt.
law school fucked me in the ass, and i had an almost half scholarship to a TTT and graduated with honors (top 15%). problem was that i still ended up six figures in debt and never had a high paying job after graduating. low paying jobs, plus expensive loan payments on top of rent and other living costs, then later combined with a couple periods of unemployment, destroyed me. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:45 PM Author: Yapping meetinghouse I would find the cheapest/easiest online masters, max out the loans, and save/invest what you get refunded. Rinse/repeat degrees till death to defer or PAYE 4ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621373) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: Cyan demanding goal in life You can still maek it bro. In a six year period in my 30s, I went from a situation much worse than yours to making good money and being likely on track to hit $1mm net worth in my mid 40s. Yeah, plenty here have more than that, but the point is that for a long time, it looked like I wasn't getting SHIT, basically paycheck to paycheck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621565) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:36 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business ty. congrats, and it's always nice to hear turnaround stories like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621624) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 3:46 PM Author: cruel-hearted bat shit crazy legend People maek it everyday. You can too. Let's do it! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621675) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 4:13 PM Author: Puce headpube If you get 401k match then it's stupid not to contribute at least to the match %. That's free money bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621860) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business that's an excellent way to put it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37622022) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 12:26 PM Author: house-broken brass step-uncle's house ALSO tax evasion
think about it this way, if you live in a high tax state like NY or CA you can move to FL and withdraw, the penalty is the same as you would've paid on the income in NY/CA
YMMV |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 4:17 PM Author: elite personal credit line property Yes, as much as you possibly can manage. You'll never be rich but you could easily pile up a couple hundred grand before you retire. You'll be very happy to have that cash brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37621902) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 12:34 PM Author: elite personal credit line property If you're extra frugal, or your income jumps, you could get halfway rich. In any case, having a bit of cash at the end will make lifea lot less stressful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37626239) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 4:45 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business had blood work done at the end of november and my liver enzymes were within the normal range. it's cancer i'm concerned about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37622095) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 12:31 PM Author: Ultramarine School Cafeteria Place Of Business 3 of the last 9 months i haven't drank at all, which is more than a lot of people can say. i'm not paying for crossfit but i've been doing 45-50 minutes on the treadmill most days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181281&forum_id=2#37626232) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 12:34 PM Author: costumed infuriating deer antler 401k is generally protected in bankruptcy IIRC.
You have a non trivial risk of being in bankruptcy at some point. I would put as much in as you can afford. |
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