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When you all discuss comp in jobs are you INCLUDING bonus/RSU/401K?
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Date: February 18th, 2019 4:34 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard My base salary is 160K but with the extra shit it's 200K and I'm not sure which to tell people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803495) |
Date: February 18th, 2019 5:06 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803729) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:06 PM Author: Aggressive faggot firefighter i only count rsus as they vest each yr but otherwise yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803730) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:07 PM Author: Vivacious indirect expression point "All in" = everything = $200k for you.
"Salary" = just salary = $160k for you.
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:08 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard Not what I am asking. I am asking what people say when they're discussing their pay @ a job. Are they saying ALL IN or are they just saying salary.
I ask because I sense quite a few poasters are including non-base salary numbers when they cite their almost always 200K+ pay |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:13 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Why would you tell people you made less money last year than you made last year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803788) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:15 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard what's the joke here, I'm missing it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803806) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:19 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator The base model of my car cost 21k but I got the bonus stero upgrade and leather seats so I paid 23k but when people ask how much the car cost I tell them 21k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803826) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:25 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard no, you'd say 23 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803863) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:26 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Ur doin great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803867) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:13 PM Author: transparent hairy legs gaping Yes yes no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803793) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:15 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard I'm surprised, 401K is free fucking money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803807) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:16 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Cr I also include the difference between my medical coverage’s premium and the cost I would pay without getting the plan under my employer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803817) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:18 PM Author: Vivacious indirect expression point tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803822) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:19 PM Author: useless goal in life Only the employer match part of your 401k should be included (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803829) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:19 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803831) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:20 PM Author: useless goal in life Why would you include your own contributions in the 401k portion of your "all in" comp? You are double counting in that case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803838) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:22 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Cr I also pro rate the electricity usage from managing my portfolio using employer provided DC electrical power. This year I started counting not just the laptop power but also my share of the router and modem. It’s like $120/yr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803847) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:26 PM Author: useless goal in life Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803868) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:00 PM Author: Purple Big Round Eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805484) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:26 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard mine is substantial (15-20K a year) so I include it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803865) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:43 PM Author: transparent hairy legs gaping Mine is too but 200k vs 220K is not worth discussing w my prole family (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805712) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:15 PM Author: misanthropic electric furnace dont 4get gym memberships and discounts at local grocers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803811) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:18 PM Author: Vivacious indirect expression point If you want to know where the line is - that's where the line is. Also, like employer health insurance or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803824) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:19 PM Author: bearded center You guys include 401k match in your all-in numbers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803830) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:20 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Of course I also drink 2 employer provided coffees per day which is like $800/yr
Also net out the amount I save on water bill from using their toliets |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:23 PM Author: bearded center I don't think you know what a 401k match is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803851) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:24 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Yup that’s the issue here you know way more about this stuff than I do damn I’m embarrassed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803855) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:27 PM Author: Vivacious indirect expression point If your employer gives you an extra 6% of your salary as compensation, why on earth wouldn't you include that 6%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803870) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: bearded center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803881) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:02 PM Author: Purple Big Round Eye because it’s fake money. the 4 in 401k literally stands for fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805495) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:07 PM Author: Claret swashbuckling whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805516) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:23 PM Author: bossy outnumbered sanctuary doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805606) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:27 PM Author: misanthropic electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803871) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:27 PM Author: bearded center It's ok man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803874) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803879) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:27 PM Author: Chartreuse haunted graveyard MiG trying REALLY hard ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803869) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator This was a fun and informative thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803884) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: chocolate offensive spot roast beef If someone asks me what I make, as the OP is getting at, I would say my "all in" amount. I doubt most people are saying base because they'd prefer to give you a higher number.
RE: 401K, if it's a substantial amount like OP says (20K a year) then I'd include it. Think of it like an additional bonus.
Would never include anything like health insurance benefits. |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:34 PM Author: Aggressive faggot firefighter id say it and immediately qualify it as all-in and break down all categories bc im autistic and gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803917) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:33 PM Author: Drab locale salary = base only all-in = base + cash bonus only
i don't include 401k or health benefits or reimbursements or seamless dinners or other shit u guys over-inflate.
RSUs/options don't count either. plenty of people at banks got paid 60% in stock and sometimes end up owing money if options vest in-money and expire worthless. Or they get close to nothing after their 3 year stock vests much lower than expected. |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:39 PM Author: Galvanic Home Seems silly not to include matched 401k. If my employer matches $10k in direct contributions, that's part of my pay and is something that I'd definitely consider when comparing job opportunities.
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:42 PM Author: Drab locale u don't touch that money for 35 years, sure it's tax free but if you discount it back it's worth a lot less.
i mean why stop there, why not add seamless dinners? those are free and "part of my pay".
same with free plane tickets. free hotel rooms. conferences.
i only count CASH MONEY PAID IMMEDIATELY, otherwise it's put in the "perks" pile.
u can do what u want but u should then be consistent and add in everything else too. |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:42 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator What is your formula for discounting your utility bills - water, electricity, etc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803957) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:45 PM Author: Drab locale what are u talking about?
it's apples to apples and consistent with my definition for comp.
a: I get paid monthly cash comp (liquid asset) b: I have to pay monthly cash (post tax) utilities (liquid cost)
those are comparable.
getting free seamless dinners or matching for retirement 35 years from now is not the same as above a: or b:. |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:47 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Right but re: b:: you pay LESS utilities because you get them as part of your at work compensation. Heating, electric, AC, internet, water, coffee, you can count all that as comp. I’d even add c:: avoided depreciation on at home seating from using their chairs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803981) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:49 PM Author: Drab locale well that's why i don't define it that way
i just take into account cash money with zero penalties |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:50 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator If I factored in loss of use of my body due to skeletal issues from force work positions and forgone time with my loved ones do you think my total compensation is even positive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37804002) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:54 PM Author: Drab locale sure u can be as cheeky as u want, why does it matter so much
just count whatever u want bro as long as u sleep well at night |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:45 PM Author: Galvanic Home Should I also exclude the money *I* put into 401k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803968) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:45 PM Author: useless goal in life You should include 401k match because you're also including the portion of your base salary that you contribute to the 401k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803970) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:47 PM Author: Drab locale that's fine, u guys do what u want.
i see the rationale for including it but for me I only count liquid assets.
there is a job that pays out vesting zero coupon 30 year T-Bills as bonuses but I wouldn't count that in my short-term liquid "all-in" either. |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:55 PM Author: useless goal in life Then you should exclude the amount contributed to your 401k too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37804019) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:14 PM Author: bearded center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805556) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: peach box office striped hyena You take a present amount, forecast it into the future, and then discount it back? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805590) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Yes since every project you complete increases your market value and therefore likely future income you can discount future income against those new skills using NPV calculations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805613) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:49 PM Author: canary hideous orchestra pit If you’re negotiating, round up a combined all-in # and say that’s what you’re making. I did this when I obtained a job at a competing employer, then went back to my current employer with a bullshit # he matched 😈 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37803995) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:53 PM Author: Alcoholic contagious location I say "Idk, I'm doing all right" and half-smirk like a smug little faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37804012) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 5:54 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37804013) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 9:41 PM Author: Aggressive faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805327) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 9:42 PM Author: bossy outnumbered sanctuary doctorate i just give my base salary. bonus can vary so i dont include that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805331) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:07 PM Author: Claret swashbuckling whorehouse MIG fucking ran train ITT. 180 bounceback after some recent high-profile duds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805522) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:17 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator I should just stick to gay retard financial trolling from now on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805567) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Aggressive faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805576) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: Purple Big Round Eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805578) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:22 PM Author: Swollen walnut nursing home brethren If u include 401k match like an idiot striver, you should deduct the amount of money from ur salary u have to put into that goy trap in order to get the match (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805601) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: honey-headed razzmatazz theater masturbator Yes my understanding is the money you put into the 401k is actually a fee for the match (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805608) |
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Date: February 18th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: Swollen walnut nursing home brethren more like a goy tax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4204372&forum_id=2#37805610) |
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Date: February 19th, 2019 9:09 AM Author: lavender azn area Salary + cash bonus only.
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