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The FIRE movement seems weird

These people live on rice and beans so they can "retire...
Smoker
  05/15/19
Not a FIRE, but: Is it any less weird to work most of your a...
vonoskar
  05/15/19
Most people try to put away enough money so they can have th...
Smoker
  05/15/19
Not a bad idea but, in my experience, surprisingly few manag...
vonoskar
  05/15/19
Have you seen that commercial where the boomer grandpa dream...
Guy Debord
  05/15/19
This OP seems like a strawman.
Why were clowns?
  05/15/19
if you scan the blogs and articles about these people, the m...
''''''''''''"''''
  05/15/19
tfw no weird, frendless azn wife to support both of us retir...
GOY SUPERSTAR
  05/15/19
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Windsor Canadian
  05/15/19
Out your debts.
Why were clowns?
  05/15/19
Maybe I’ll check it out.
Definitely A Contender
  05/15/19
i think it's about the 'freedom.' some of these people will ...
London Bridge
  05/15/19
It is weird and a high-estrogen path
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  05/15/19
Big crossover with crossfit morons
Woah Cr friend!
  05/15/19
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KamalaSexyFineCleverChocolate
  05/15/19
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''''''''''''"''''
  05/15/19
What does FIRE stand for? I'm only familiar with the first a...
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  05/15/19
Financial independence retire early
CortezPeters
  05/15/19
Thank
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  05/15/19
Fuck, I'm Rarely Eating
London Bridge
  05/15/19
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Woah Cr friend!
  05/15/19
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coons over my mommy
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Smoker
  05/15/19
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Midsommar? Ponderous, Aggravating
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GOY
  05/16/19
fuck i'm really emaciated
""""''
  05/16/19
fuck it racewar eminent
""""''
  05/16/19
You realize you can also have passive income when you retire...
Rachmiel Amadeus (retired)
  05/15/19
My sense is that most FIRE adherents are just grifters who &...
(*_*)//(^_^)\\(*_*)______('~')
  05/15/19
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Woah Cr friend!
  05/15/19
it's absolutely insane how many THOUSANDS of obviously retar...
London Bridge
  05/15/19
don't you DARE step off the hedonic treadmill
groundbreaking interdisciplinary MBA curriculum
  05/15/19
Key to fire movement is moving to a cheap country in Asia or...
....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.
  05/15/19
I agree the 30 year olds who do it on 800k are kind of weird...
CortezPeters
  05/15/19
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alzabo
  05/15/19
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cannon
  05/15/19
some of these people on youtube seem like 'Morgellons' patie...
London Bridge
  05/15/19
I'm semi-retired and it's generally worth it not having to w...
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
You have a wife and kids right? I can't remember. Does she w...
can't believe this moniker was available
  05/15/19
Yes, I do. She hasn't worked since our first kid was born.
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
180. Regale us with some tales of your lazy summer days. ...
can't believe this moniker was available
  05/15/19
I did basically 0 revenue generating activity today. I have...
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
Good for you, brother.
can't believe this moniker was available
  05/15/19
Working at a stressful/difficult job is GC flame and totally...
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
Give some tips to get out brother.
....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.
  05/15/19
Nothing particularly insightful other than save your money. ...
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
what do you recommend to get 5%? Any bonds?
'""""'"
  05/15/19
life insurance policy.
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
how did you save so much money
sun kil moon
  05/15/19
Worked a long time, so did my wife. Not like it just magica...
ptbarnum
  05/15/19
so just do have two dedicated high-earners with very conscie...
irl zebra
  05/15/19
Unless your parents give you money, that is the only way. An...
ptbarnum
  05/16/19
...
irl zebra
  05/16/19
http://imgur.com/FdZtiXM
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GOY
  05/16/19
its antisemitism in disguise Just stay.at home.and spend ...
the ape that understood the universe
  05/16/19


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Date: May 15th, 2019 1:47 PM
Author: Smoker

These people live on rice and beans so they can "retire" in early 40s and then continue to live on rice and beans but not have to go to work each day? Sounds like an awful existence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238636)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 1:52 PM
Author: vonoskar

Not a FIRE, but: Is it any less weird to work most of your adult life and squirrel away your money on the notion that at some point in your sixties or seventies, when three-quarters of your human lifespan is over, THEN you'll finally start "really living life" as you manage to squeeze in a trip to Turkey and a trip to France before you die of a massive heart attack at seventy-six while eating a burger at a 19th Hole on a faux links course outside your new Scottsdale winter home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238676)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 1:53 PM
Author: Smoker

Most people try to put away enough money so they can have the same comfortable lifestyle they had while working

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238683)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 1:57 PM
Author: vonoskar

Not a bad idea but, in my experience, surprisingly few manage to pull this off. They'll either overspend during their working years and end up with an inadequate portfolio on retirement forcing a change in their QoL or they'll pursue the scenario I outlined above, work themselves weary pursuing the vision of "I'll get that boat once I'm retired from DuPont!" and then turn the corner to realize that they've expended a lot of viable years holding off dreams. It's a hard tightrope to walk to achieve the balance you're describing. Humans in general have difficulty with long-term planning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238710)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:02 PM
Author: Guy Debord

Have you seen that commercial where the boomer grandpa dreams about owning his dream car (mustang or some shit) and then his young grandaughter moves in with him and he ends up scrapping the Mustang and buying her a car? Don't care if it is relevant -- but I have seen that commercial a lot and your poast reminds me of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238734)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:03 PM
Author: Why were clowns?

This OP seems like a strawman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238739)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:04 PM
Author: ''''''''''''"''''

if you scan the blogs and articles about these people, the majority are autistic weirdos who do no lead rewarding lives. in some cases, they are people with OCD who willfully adhere to this shit because it seems like a somewhat productive outlet for their mental illness. also a large percentage seem to be weird, friendless asian chicks.

edit: also the scammers/youtube retards someone else mentioned. people who are into this concept are the same assholes who get into MLM scams.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238743)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR

tfw no weird, frendless azn wife to support both of us retiring at 40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238750)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 3:11 PM
Author: Windsor Canadian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239146)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: Why were clowns?

Out your debts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238752)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: Definitely A Contender

Maybe I’ll check it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241525)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:04 PM
Author: London Bridge

i think it's about the 'freedom.' some of these people will probably continue working to make more money, but not *needing* to work is psychologically liberating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238746)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

It is weird and a high-estrogen path

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238751)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:21 PM
Author: Woah Cr friend!

Big crossover with crossfit morons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238847)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:28 PM
Author: KamalaSexyFineCleverChocolate




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238894)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: ''''''''''''"''''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239023)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:23 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle

What does FIRE stand for? I'm only familiar with the first amendment one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238856)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:36 PM
Author: CortezPeters

Financial independence retire early

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238935)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 3:01 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle

Thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239103)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:48 PM
Author: London Bridge

Fuck, I'm Rarely Eating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239010)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:58 PM
Author: Woah Cr friend!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239082)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 3:36 PM
Author: coons over my mommy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239272)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: Smoker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239326)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:45 PM
Author: Midsommar? Ponderous, Aggravating



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241439)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 10:58 AM
Author: GOY



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243201)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: """"''


fuck i'm really emaciated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243158)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: """"''


fuck it racewar eminent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243165)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:24 PM
Author: Rachmiel Amadeus (retired)

You realize you can also have passive income when you retire early, right dumbass? You dont need to be someones bitch for eternity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238865)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:28 PM
Author: (*_*)//(^_^)\\(*_*)______('~')


My sense is that most FIRE adherents are just grifters who “retired at 30” with $150k to their name and then want to become Dave Ramsey types making actual money selling the FIRE lifestyle to poors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238895)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:29 PM
Author: Woah Cr friend!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238899)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:32 PM
Author: London Bridge

it's absolutely insane how many THOUSANDS of obviously retarded shysters are on youtube running wannabe-financial-guru schticks, each w/ 100K subscribers.

they are actually making money doing this, selling 'study programs,' t-shirts, ebooks, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238910)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:31 PM
Author: groundbreaking interdisciplinary MBA curriculum

don't you DARE step off the hedonic treadmill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238907)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:33 PM
Author: ....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.


Key to fire movement is moving to a cheap country in Asia or Latin America a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238916)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:38 PM
Author: CortezPeters

I agree the 30 year olds who do it on 800k are kind of weirdos. But I think those that do it at like 45 or 50 with some relatively big dollars are admirable. They have their values in line, thrift, anti-GC, want to spend time with friends and family with some good years left.

My uncle did this at age 50. He died of cancer at 55. I’m glad he had those years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238955)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:47 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239005)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:57 PM
Author: cannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239074)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:45 PM
Author: London Bridge

some of these people on youtube seem like 'Morgellons' patients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38238993)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 2:52 PM
Author: ptbarnum

I'm semi-retired and it's generally worth it not having to work a real job.

Seriously, you should try it. It's better than working biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239035)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 3:44 PM
Author: can't believe this moniker was available

You have a wife and kids right? I can't remember. Does she work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239297)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:08 PM
Author: ptbarnum

Yes, I do. She hasn't worked since our first kid was born.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239380)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: can't believe this moniker was available

180. Regale us with some tales of your lazy summer days.

Do you have passive income sources?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239439)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: ptbarnum

I did basically 0 revenue generating activity today. I have high net worth/savings I can live off of and I am the owner of a business. Not strictly a consistent mailbox money situation or anything like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239451)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:25 PM
Author: can't believe this moniker was available

Good for you, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239463)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:26 PM
Author: ptbarnum

Working at a stressful/difficult job is GC flame and totally unnecessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239468)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: ....::::..::..,,....,........,..,,,,,.


Give some tips to get out brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239550)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:44 PM
Author: ptbarnum

Nothing particularly insightful other than save your money. Stop spending on random consumer stuff and you'll not miss it either (maybe if you're a woman you will). Having a family to focus on helps eliminate random stupid spending due to time constraints.

Also helps if you have a higher return on your savings, e.g. in a business or something else. The minimum I make on my savings is in the 5% range and it's really a lot better than that due to my business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241432)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:47 PM
Author: '""""'"


what do you recommend to get 5%? Any bonds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241456)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:53 PM
Author: ptbarnum

life insurance policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241487)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:24 PM
Author: sun kil moon (ggtp)

how did you save so much money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38239750)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:46 PM
Author: ptbarnum

Worked a long time, so did my wife. Not like it just magically appeared. Always a good saver and don't really like "stuff" anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241448)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 11:00 PM
Author: irl zebra

so just do have two dedicated high-earners with very conscientious saving habits and a natural inclination to avoid unnecessary consumption?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241512)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 8:47 AM
Author: ptbarnum

Unless your parents give you money, that is the only way. An alternative is to work a job you enjoy but that’s a unicorn - only Nutella has that.

I had a job that was great and I would’ve done it forever and then a year later things changed at the job and I didn’t want to do it anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38242657)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 10:51 AM
Author: irl zebra



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243154)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 10:56 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


http://imgur.com/FdZtiXM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38241502)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 10:57 AM
Author: GOY



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243196)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 11:06 AM
Author: the ape that understood the universe (arhat)

its antisemitism in disguise

Just stay.at home.and spend time with family and wife doing wholesome activities and not consume good and rack up credit card debt? These people are literally hitler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262208&forum_id=2#38243246)