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An actual Iran INVASION is highly unlikely - would take 500K troops or so

an actual ground invasion of iran would be a major national ...
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what if trump won again tho, and didn't have to GAF about na...
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The fact this is even being discussed is insanity
Sir Incelot
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i doubt it's actually being SERIOUSLY discussed. the more y...
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And we need to be drastically cutting the Army in favor of n...
Sir Incelot
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(sailor)
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
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Semen
Drillbit
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Military wants some kind of revenge for all the IEDs used in...
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by quintupling the number of its forces that will be maimed ...
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But if the Iranians responsible are obliterated, military co...
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it is widely acknowledged that the iraq and afghanistan war ...
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the top dog can't let the disrespect of hundreds of its sold...
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What if missile salvo from Iran destroys a lot of oil tanker...
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it's built into the war calculations, i would presume. an a...
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What about the recession? Ground troops necessary to fight o...
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pepito
  05/15/19
A ground war with Iran would be a bigger undertaking than ou...
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
  05/15/19
KSA is a big supporter of war on Iran. Does every scenar...
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My gut says no to any limited action on Iranian soil. I don'...
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
  05/15/19
What about fighting against proxies in Syria and Iraq? What ...
'"''''"''""
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We've been fight against Iranian proxies in Syria, Afg, and ...
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
  05/15/19
What if the attacks become 10x more intense after the bombin...
'"''''"''""
  05/15/19
I'm ok with depleting our cruise missile inventory one at a ...
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
  05/15/19
The 3k troops in Syria can be defended by cruise missiles?
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Selected targets within Iran.
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
  05/15/19
How does that stop the proxy attacks in Syria after the bomb...
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i've seen speculation that most staging would be done from i...
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At any given time we have at max 4 carrier groups available ...
Anne Frank sporting a full bush
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it would be a major national project. as i recall, Iraq II ...
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We’d bomb them to smithereens and waltz in noob
GOY GUN NUT
  05/15/19
aerial bombing is good at taking out large fixed defensive p...
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Iran would make Iraq look like a picnic.
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Other way around. There aren’t countless crazy Sunnis ...
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A majority of Iraqis were glad to see Saddam gone. I hav...
War Machine
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I’m not saying that. I’m saying the us military ...
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the "whatever resistance" would consist of things ...
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There was no resistance in Iraq II. It did not exist. In Ira...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
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(Donald Rumsfeld)
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sounds like a greeted as liberators strategy
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We're not invading lmao. We might bomb them into oblivion t...
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*manufactures 9/11 attack* Heh
London Bridge
  05/15/19
trump is too cheap for the price tag
gibberish
  05/15/19
HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE
honiara
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...
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No need to invade just bomb the fuck out of them
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They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whi...
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"We'll be welcomed as LIBERATORS! It will pay for itsel...
longwangpoontang
  05/16/19


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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:25 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


an actual ground invasion of iran would be a major national project that would probably have to accept the loss of a few dozen planes along with several ships either sunk or damaged, and probably c. 3-4K deaths just to secure the coastline and the coastal missile sites.

there is no national will for something like this, and thus, it probably won't happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239754)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: .,.,....,.,.,.,:,:,...,:::,....,:,.,.:...,:.::,.


what if trump won again tho, and didn't have to GAF about national will?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239884)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:54 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

The fact this is even being discussed is insanity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239888)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:03 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


i doubt it's actually being SERIOUSLY discussed. the more you look at the actual geography and geopolitics of the region, the worse of an idea it becomes. the military knows this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239918)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:05 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

And we need to be drastically cutting the Army in favor of naval and aerospace spending.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239928)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:09 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

(sailor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239953)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: Drillbit

Semen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241037)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:07 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


Military wants some kind of revenge for all the IEDs used in Iraq supplied by Iran

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239943)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:09 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


by quintupling the number of its forces that will be maimed by such devices?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239951)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:12 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


But if the Iranians responsible are obliterated, military comes out as the top dog again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239962)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:14 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


it is widely acknowledged that the iraq and afghanistan war made the US military weaker in various important ways. iran would take those trends and accelerate them, especially since our national debt is already over 100% of GDP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239970)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:16 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


the top dog can't let the disrespect of hundreds of its soldiers getting killed by Iran IEDs go unanswered, national debt be damned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239986)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:06 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


What if missile salvo from Iran destroys a lot of oil tankers?

What if the US troops in Syria and Iraq are attacked by proxies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239932)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:08 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


it's built into the war calculations, i would presume. an actual serious war with iran would probably lead to collateral wars in lebanon, iraq, and parts of syria. soft targets like gulf shipping and eastern saudi pipelines/oil facilities would get smashed up.

on the upside, $250/barrel oil benefits the remaining oil producers, including the US, canada, russia, etc. it will also clear up a lot of unnecessary traffic on american roads, making driving more pleasant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239950)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:11 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


What about the recession? Ground troops necessary to fight on the frontline?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239960)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:13 PM
Author: pepito



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239964)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:16 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

A ground war with Iran would be a bigger undertaking than our invasion of Europe in WW2. Staging units and getting then into Iran en masse would be incredibly difficult, especially since I assume Turkey and KSA would laugh in our faces at the thought of supporting this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239985)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:18 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


KSA is a big supporter of war on Iran.

Does every scenario call for an invasion of Iran to reach Tehran?

Are there limited scenarios in which thousands of ground troops would need to do fighting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240004)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:20 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

My gut says no to any limited action on Iranian soil. I don't see how it would not escalate to a full blown ground war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240018)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:22 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


What about fighting against proxies in Syria and Iraq? What about reinforcements to Syria and Iraq?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240037)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:25 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

We've been fight against Iranian proxies in Syria, Afg, and Iraq for years now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240058)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


What if the attacks become 10x more intense after the bombing of Iran?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240077)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:31 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

I'm ok with depleting our cruise missile inventory one at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240094)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:34 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


The 3k troops in Syria can be defended by cruise missiles?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240109)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:35 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

Selected targets within Iran.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240120)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:36 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


How does that stop the proxy attacks in Syria after the bombing has already started?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240128)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:20 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


i've seen speculation that most staging would be done from iraq and from the south - ie, via carrier groups in the gulf/indian ocean. there would probably need to be about 6 carrier groups involved to provide overlapping dense anti-missile coverage for each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240020)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:24 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full bush

At any given time we have at max 4 carrier groups available for deployment. The rest are in some form of maintenance or yard status. Getting half our CVN force ready for deployment would be a huge undertaking in itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240050)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


it would be a major national project. as i recall, Iraq II had 4 carrier groups in theater at the time of the actual assault. iran would definitely need a couple more. there would also need to be a reconfiguration of the rotation/maintenance schedules in order to have other carrier groups ready to relieve each other.

we'd probably be looking at half-a-trillion dollars in short-term expenses even if everything goes shockingly well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241070)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:17 PM
Author: GOY GUN NUT

We’d bomb them to smithereens and waltz in noob

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239993)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:25 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


aerial bombing is good at taking out large fixed defensive positions and highly-visible targets like tanks and vehicles. the problem with iran is that its terrain is a goddamned mess:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Iran_Topography.png

compare that to the vast flatlands of iraq.

iran has an unknown number of small, portable anti-armor weapons like the russian kornet, which means that US vehicle/tank movements into iran are going to get lit up for a while by small, mobile groups of assailants using the mountains for coverage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240064)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:38 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Iran would make Iraq look like a picnic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240138)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: """"'''""'


Other way around. There aren’t countless crazy Sunnis and Arabs milling about in Iran.

Unless the Iranian regime has some crazy amazing guerilla force prepared to strike (which the CIA hasn’t sniffed out). The Iranian regime is really lame though so I doubt they have some strategic grand plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241027)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:33 PM
Author: War Machine

A majority of Iraqis were glad to see Saddam gone.

I have a hard time believing a majority of Iranians would support the toppling of the regime there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241080)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:36 PM
Author: """"'''""'


I’m not saying that. I’m saying the us military and intel apparatus would destroy whatever resistance Iran put up, and presumably would not stupidly let a post invasion guerilla war pwn them like in Iraq.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241102)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:43 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


the "whatever resistance" would consist of things like small cells armed with anti-tank weapons hiding in the hills. this would not be that easy to simply "destroy."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241145)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:18 AM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

There was no resistance in Iraq II. It did not exist. In Iran our casualties will be x5 at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242202)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:34 PM
Author: """'"'''


(Donald Rumsfeld)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241084)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:45 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


sounds like a greeted as liberators strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241157)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:22 PM
Author: """"'''""'


We're not invading lmao. We might bomb them into oblivion though. They still have 50 year old planes in the air.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241006)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: London Bridge

*manufactures 9/11 attack*

Heh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241036)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: gibberish

trump is too cheap for the price tag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241058)



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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:41 PM
Author: honiara

HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241130)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:31 AM
Author: ''"'""''"""




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242220)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:36 AM
Author: '''''''''''"'

No need to invade just bomb the fuck out of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242234)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 5:32 AM
Author: ''''''"'" (🥃)

They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242364)



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Date: May 16th, 2019 5:45 AM
Author: longwangpoontang

"We'll be welcomed as LIBERATORS! It will pay for itself!" (xoxo2003 Reptile)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242389)