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Ty Cobb describes his first at-bat against Walter Perry Johnson

On August 2, 1907, I encountered the most threatening sight ...
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they tested his fastball using a contraption designed to tes...
thirsty trailer park cuck
  06/07/19
Walter Johnson had 531 complete games over his career. Pitch...
talking emerald alpha hominid
  06/07/19
they tested him to measure his speed (not in a game where he...
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  06/07/19
I believe he did this wearing a suit on flat ground ---- ...
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old-timey baseball was 180. Read Glory of Their Times if you...
talking emerald alpha hominid
  06/07/19
Walter Johnson was a badass. The dude pitched 110 shutouts ...
Cerise fragrant telephone
  06/07/19
Pongo Joe Cantillon of the Nats, folks
Twinkling flickering menage giraffe
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He has to go back
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“Tall, shambling galoot” would make a great moni...
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Nolan Ryan is the fastest
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Zoomtard, actually
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I would have been a pro athlete in the 40s ljl
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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:02 AM
Author: harsh citrine shrine

On August 2, 1907, I encountered the most threatening sight I ever saw in the ball field. He was a rookie, and we licked our lips as we warmed up for the first game of a doubleheader in Washington. Evidently, manager Pongo Joe Cantillon of the Nats had picked a rube out of the cornfields of the deepest bushes to pitch against us. ... He was a tall, shambling galoot of about twenty, with arms so long they hung far out of his sleeves, and with a sidearm delivery that looked unimpressive at first glance. ... One of the Tigers imitated a cow mooing, and we hollered at Cantillon: 'Get the pitchfork ready, Joe—your hayseed's on his way back to the barn.'

... The first time I faced him, I watched him take that easy windup. And then something went past me that made me flinch. The thing just hissed with danger. We couldn't touch him. ... every one of us knew we'd met the most powerful arm ever turned loose in a ball park.[8]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353771)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:16 AM
Author: beady-eyed crimson coldplay fan mexican



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:23 AM
Author: thirsty trailer park cuck

they tested his fastball using a contraption designed to test military projectiles that implies he was throwing low 90s when measured in the same way as today.

it is absolutely astonishing how much better both pitchers and hitters are today. in every at bat, hitters face dudes throwing high 90s with a sick offspeed pitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353845)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:26 AM
Author: talking emerald alpha hominid

Walter Johnson had 531 complete games over his career. Pitchers back then paced themselves-- you didn't throw your hardest every pitch like some modern reliever throwing to two batters. I understand the argument that players today have better training, etc. But my guess is that if he was born in 1990 instead of the 19th century, he would still be an awesome pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353853)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: thirsty trailer park cuck

they tested him to measure his speed (not in a game where he's pacing himself but in a special testing facility) and he hit low 90s. walter might have been able to goose up to mid 90s for a 5-inning start but he'd be a Kyle Hendricks, not a Verlander.

also implies the average pitcher back then must have really fucking sucked. i'm glad we don't have good footage because i like having the illusion of the old timers as megastuds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353953)



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Date: April 30th, 2020 6:32 PM
Author: orchid razzle-dazzle crotch spot

I believe he did this wearing a suit on flat ground

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https://theathletic.com/1708673/2020/03/30/the-baseball-100-no-7-walter-johnson

And while we can’t tell you exactly how fast the ball went, we do have a clue. Johnson was the first pitcher to have his fastball’s speed measured. True, it was measured by an archaic (and ingenious) apparatus developed by the Remington Arms Company. But it’s something. Remington had developed the machine to time the speed of bullets. Johnson’s fastball seemed the obvious next thing.

Johnson and another pitcher, Nap Rucker, showed up in a large room at the Remington lab in Connecticut. The scientists had him stand 60 feet, 6 inches away and throw his fastball through a mesh square. The ball would brush through the mesh, triggering the clock. Then, 15 feet later, the ball would slam into a metal plate, stopping the clock. Johnson’s fastball covered that distance in .1229 seconds, which means that it traveled 122 feet per second.*

*Rucker topped out at 113 feet per second.

This became a pretty famous measurement of the time: 122 feet per second! That’s fast! As newspapers reported in the day, “The Twentieth Century Limited, flying at a mile a minute gait over the rails, makes only 88 feet per second!” He threw it faster than a train!

This was not the reason Johnson was called Big Train, by the way. We’ll get to that.

What is 122 feet per second as we would understand it now?

It is 83.2 miles per hour.

It’s OK to feel let down. But the story isn’t over yet.

First, there’s the measurement point. As mentioned above when talking about how fast Feller and Ryan really threw, the speed of today’s pitchers is measured out of the hand. Feller’s pitch was measured as it crossed the plate. But Johnson’s pitch was measured seven and a half feet after it crossed the plate.

So, that requires a major adjustment. The “Fastball” physicists did the calculations and found that today Walter Johnson’s pitch would actually be measured at 94 mph or so.

That’s obviously very fast, though it certainly would not make anyone in today’s game back away. But there’s more: Johnson threw the ball with a shirt and tie on. He did not throw off of a mound. And most of all, he did not throw as hard as he could because he was trying to guide his pitches through the target. It was an awkward thing, and it took him numerous tries to get it right.

“He didn’t throw full speed or anything close,” Rucker said after the experiment. “If he had, he would have thrown over 150 feet per second.”

For the record, 150 feet per second is more than 102 mph. In church clothes. On flat ground.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#40125494)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:23 AM
Author: talking emerald alpha hominid

old-timey baseball was 180. Read Glory of Their Times if you haven't already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353847)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:25 AM
Author: Cerise fragrant telephone

Walter Johnson was a badass. The dude pitched 110 shutouts and 531 complete games. Also batted .235 for his career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353848)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 11:27 AM
Author: Twinkling flickering menage giraffe

Pongo Joe Cantillon of the Nats, folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38353866)



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Date: August 10th, 2019 3:42 AM
Author: diverse twinkling uncleanness

He has to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38664773)



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Date: June 7th, 2019 12:02 PM
Author: Aromatic dopamine wrinkle

“Tall, shambling galoot” would make a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38354105)



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Date: August 10th, 2019 3:35 AM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38664766)



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Date: August 10th, 2019 3:36 AM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



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Date: August 10th, 2019 3:44 AM
Author: Deep honey-headed hell queen of the night

Nolan Ryan is the fastest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#38664775)



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Date: April 30th, 2020 6:37 PM
Author: Ungodly range toilet seat

Zoomtard, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#40125506)



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Date: April 30th, 2020 6:42 PM
Author: talking emerald alpha hominid

Steve Dalkowski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Dalkowski

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#40125527)



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Date: October 6th, 2019 4:54 PM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



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Date: January 14th, 2020 12:02 PM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



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Date: January 18th, 2020 6:33 PM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



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Date: January 18th, 2020 6:47 PM
Author: Ungodly range toilet seat

I would have been a pro athlete in the 40s ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#39451887)



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Date: April 30th, 2020 6:31 PM
Author: harsh citrine shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4278202&forum_id=2#40125487)