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arguing motion in NY Co. Court. how exactly does this work?

looking for info on courtroom, where you sit, how long you a...
barnabyjones
  06/11/19
You will have a scheduled time for your case. It's usually i...
drunken donuts
  06/11/19
180 info. what sort of thing would a first year in biglaw do...
barnabyjones
  06/11/19
Mostly observe and find documents to hand out to the judge a...
drunken donuts
  06/11/19
Remember as a junior being asked by a lit partner if I wante...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/12/19
Also, once you get the NYS Secure Pass (which is truly 180 a...
macguffin
  06/12/19
We have youngsters here?
~~(>' ' )>
  06/11/19
You have to say "Mr. Chief Justice and may it please th...
;.,:;,.;:,;.,:;.,:;.,;,.:
  06/11/19
Sort of. If you forget, you can later move to please the cou...
~~(>' ' )>
  06/11/19
*files out of time motion to please court, nunc pro tunc*
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/12/19
what year do you actually get to go by yourself and argue a ...
barnabyjones
  06/12/19
Probably a settlement conference my firm usually allows all ...
.....,...,.,.,.,.
  06/12/19
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barnabyjones
  06/12/19
Normally if it is a case conference the more experienced att...
.....,...,.,.,.,.
  06/12/19
this isn't that far off from what actually happens in nys ci...
.....,.,,,..,,,,,,,,..,...
  06/12/19
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barnabyjones
  06/12/19
Judges in state court aren't as polite as federal judges. ...
EXPLOSIVE diarrhea!!!
  06/12/19


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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: barnabyjones

looking for info on courtroom, where you sit, how long you are there, do you sit through other cases, do they call out your case and you run up. what would a first year be doing all this time, for example would they be sitting in back with box of docs to run up to the partner?

any other tidbits of NY court specific would be good to. Long story why I need this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372864)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:00 PM
Author: drunken donuts

You will have a scheduled time for your case. It's usually in batches, like a bunch of cases will be set for 9:00am, 10:00am, etc.

When you show up, go to the assigned judge's courtroom. This info is available online, so you can look it up ahead of time, or just ask someone who works at the courthouse when you get there. On the courtroom door, you will see that day's schedule, and the order of the cases being called at the assigned time. So, if yours is case number 5 in the 10:00am batch, you will probably go around 10:30am. You go inside the courtroom and sit through the other cases until yours is called.

Ask the partner what he or she expects you to do. Depending on whether there are other associates who would go sit at the counsel table with relevant docs, you may be expected to sit at the table or stay in the back. Usually, you would have 2-4 people at the table, 2 being most common (partner and associate).

Also, if there is a more senior associate on your case, they're the best person to ask about expectations.

[edit] if you do not have secure pass attorney id, or whatever it's called, budget some time to go through the metal detectors. You may not need it, but it's nice to have if it's a busy day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372881)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:03 PM
Author: barnabyjones

180 info. what sort of thing would a first year in biglaw do at one of these?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372897)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:05 PM
Author: drunken donuts

Mostly observe and find documents to hand out to the judge and opposing counsel, if necessary, but that's rare. The partner/senior associate would normally have the few key docs they need already.

Also, take notes on any follow-up items, like documents to produce, any scheduling issues, etc.

And depending on the motion, the partner may want to send a status update to the client right after, and it's helpful to take notes of the hearing in case you're the one drafting it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372916)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 10:06 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

Remember as a junior being asked by a lit partner if I wanted to go to court with him. We had a 30 min talk about a fin svcs client that we did a lot of fund work for but was being sued on an gen civil lit matter. I accepted his offer. Suit and tie and padfolio for whatever stupid reason he may need me to take notes. Went and left my wallet at the office. Completely forgot they'd check IDs and shit. Ended up just going back to work and revising a PPM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38377543)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 1:43 PM
Author: macguffin (an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands)

Also, once you get the NYS Secure Pass (which is truly 180 and lasts like five years now), you can go get an SDNY pass, which doesn't help on security but does let you bring your phone into the courtroom. I was one of the only people in my office who had one and would often get calls to go down and observe federal cases because I could update more quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38378629)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:07 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

We have youngsters here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372937)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:07 PM
Author: ;.,:;,.;:,;.,:;.,:;.,;,.:


You have to say "Mr. Chief Justice and may it please the Court" before you begin, otherwise your argument doesn't count.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372939)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:09 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Sort of. If you forget, you can later move to please the court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38372959)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 10:06 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

*files out of time motion to please court, nunc pro tunc*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38377545)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 9:43 AM
Author: barnabyjones

what year do you actually get to go by yourself and argue a motion? At a V20 is it like third, fourth yr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38377462)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 10:04 AM
Author: .....,...,.,.,.,.

Probably a settlement conference my firm usually allows all 4th years and lower 6 mill authority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38377538)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: barnabyjones



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Date: June 12th, 2019 10:06 AM
Author: .....,...,.,.,.,.

Normally if it is a case conference the more experienced attorneys bring posters with their case name on it and will stick them up in the air to find opposing counsel can see it. Kind of like at baseball games you hold your favorite players name up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38377544)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 4:56 PM
Author: .....,.,,,..,,,,,,,,..,...


this isn't that far off from what actually happens in nys civil (as opposed to supreme court). shitlawyers literally YELLING out their case name to find opposing counsel, who half the time does not show up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38379820)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 4:36 PM
Author: barnabyjones



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Date: June 12th, 2019 4:57 PM
Author: EXPLOSIVE diarrhea!!!

Judges in state court aren't as polite as federal judges. They HATE baldies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280797&forum_id=2#38379830)