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The Atlantic: "Gas All Boomers"

The Boomers Ruined Everything The mistakes of the past are ...
Dashing Vermilion Crackhouse
  06/24/19
whoa cr
Umber mood office
  06/24/19
yeah this country is fucked
Shaky business firm
  06/24/19
Article didn’t really deliver. Like the title though.
Cobalt Sanctuary Organic Girlfriend
  06/24/19
This was enough to sum up what Boomers have wrought: &quo...
Dashing Vermilion Crackhouse
  06/24/19
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Shaky business firm
  06/24/19
“American society is going through a strange set of sh...
charismatic nudist alpha
  06/24/19
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Bat-shit-crazy Parlour Goal In Life
  06/25/19
Check out this shitboomer comment on his twitter thread: ...
Wonderful karate genital piercing
  06/24/19
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misunderstood flushed sex offender
  06/24/19
checkmate
Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin
  06/24/19
so ironic!
Bat-shit-crazy Parlour Goal In Life
  06/25/19
GAS ALL
Supple Pit
  06/25/19
we boomers invented the world...you lot are mere detritus am...
avocado bateful set mother
  06/24/19
XO cucks LOVE boomer zoning to protect their property values...
Slimy Gunner Place Of Business
  06/24/19
Higher population density in a city = higher real estate cos...
Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin
  06/24/19
Higher population density = higher density of EVIL. Cities a...
Chestnut lascivious temple
  06/25/19
ljl boomers were able to build what they wanted where they w...
Zippy razzle-dazzle lodge macaca
  06/24/19
Started out promising, then veered into neoliberal propagand...
Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot
  06/24/19
ackshually, slashing regs is the opposite of neoliberalism.....
avocado bateful set mother
  06/24/19
Fair points Regs do make for monopoly moats when the gove...
Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot
  06/24/19
The govt has not been vigilant about breaking the companies ...
avocado bateful set mother
  06/24/19
slashing regulations is a core tenet of neoliberalism wtf ar...
misunderstood flushed sex offender
  06/24/19
then how come bush and trump did not do so when they had con...
avocado bateful set mother
  06/24/19
clinton and tony blair were considered neoliberals, it's not...
misunderstood flushed sex offender
  06/24/19
straw man
avocado bateful set mother
  06/25/19
what
misunderstood flushed sex offender
  06/25/19
Was pretty much trash from the second paragraph
buff native striped hyena
  06/25/19
A young man sits on a hotel-room bed, alone, and looks out t...
Ivory fighting theater stage
  06/24/19
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Cyan Spot
  06/24/19
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/10/the-l...
Aphrodisiac Clear Shrine Dragon
  06/24/19
solution: import millions of mexicans and somalians
Sapphire Tantric Area
  06/24/19
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charismatic nudist alpha
  06/24/19
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razzle hunting ground state
  06/25/19
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nighttime mad-dog skullcap
  06/24/19
Stupid article claiming that "radical political change&...
Comical Underhanded Market
  06/24/19
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Ebony friendly grandma
  06/25/19
Fuck boomers.
Tripping station gaping
  06/25/19
We've got some crypto boomers in here.
Tripping station gaping
  06/25/19
we have a couple of actual boomers too
coiffed cuckold
  06/25/19
ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like
Topaz nofapping menage
  06/25/19
Ok article but he cuck couched a lot of shit by saying thing...
Splenetic Wine Step-uncle's House Roast Beef
  06/25/19
Mass incarceration is the one good thing boomers did. I'd ju...
hyperventilating irate queen of the night coffee pot
  06/25/19
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Chestnut lascivious temple
  06/25/19
This retarded. Zoning isn't preventing people from living in...
Chestnut lascivious temple
  06/25/19
House prices have almost nothing to do with zoning in the lo...
Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin
  06/25/19
That's nonsense. Zoning affects supply.
Tripping station gaping
  06/25/19
That's the reasoning error every single person makes. Adding...
Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin
  06/25/19
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Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot
  06/25/19
finally someone on XO with a fucking brain jesus christ
Umber mood office
  06/25/19
You imagine you're among them?
Tripping station gaping
  06/26/19
You've disregarded the distinction between supply and demand...
Tripping station gaping
  06/26/19
I said exactly this, that per-unit costs go down only becaus...
Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin
  06/26/19
why THE FUCK are libs suddenly pushing the "mass incarc...
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Date: June 24th, 2019 5:46 PM
Author: Dashing Vermilion Crackhouse

The Boomers Ruined Everything

The mistakes of the past are fast creating a crisis for younger Americans.

Lyman Stone6:00 AM ET

Research fellow at the Institute for Family Studies

An illustration of a decaying American flag

Carlina Teteris / Getty

The Baby Boomers ruined America. That sounds like a hyperbolic claim, but it’s one way to state what I found as I tried to solve a riddle. American society is going through a strange set of shifts: Even as cultural values are in rapid flux, political institutions seem frozen in time. The average U.S. state constitution is more than 100 years old. We are in the third-longest period without a constitutional amendment in American history: The longest such period ended in the Civil War. So what’s to blame for this institutional aging?

One possibility is simply that Americans got older. The average American was 32 years old in 2000, and 37 in 2018. The retiree share of the population is booming, while birth rates are plummeting. When a society gets older, its politics change. Older voters have different interests than younger voters: Cuts to retiree-focused benefits are scarier, while long-term problems such as excessive student debt, climate change, and low birth rates are more easily ignored.

But it’s not just aging. In a variety of different areas, the Baby Boom generation created, advanced, or preserved policies that made American institutions less dynamic. In a recent report for the American Enterprise Institute, I looked at issues including housing, work rules, higher education, law enforcement, and public budgeting, and found a consistent pattern: The political ascendancy of the Boomers brought with it tightening control and stricter regulation, making it harder to succeed in America. This lack of dynamism largely hasn’t hurt Boomers, but the mistakes of the past are fast becoming a crisis for younger Americans.

More by Lyman Stone

A young man sits on a hotel-room bed, alone, and looks out the window.

Read: Millennials didn’t kill the economy. The economy killed Millennials.

Zoning codes in America have their roots in the early 1900s. Some land-use rules arose out of efforts to manage growing density in cities due to industrialization and new construction technologies that allowed taller buildings. But most zoning was intended to protect property values for homeowners, or to exclude certain racial groups. For many decades, though, zoning codes were relatively limited in scope.

Stricter zoning rules began to be implemented in many places in the 1940s and 1950s as suburbanization began. But then things got worse in the 1960s to 1980s. This shift is reflected in the increasing frequency with which various land-use associated words were used in Google’s database of American English-language publications. These decades, when the political power of the Baby Boomer generation was rapidly rising, saw a sharp escalation in land-use rules.

There’s debate about why this is: Some researchers say the end of formal segregation may have pushed some voters to look for informal methods of enforcing segregation. Others suggest that a change in financial returns to different classes of investment caused homeowners to become more protective of their asset values.

Today, strict land-use rules—whether framed as rules about parking, green space, height limits, neighborhood aesthetics, or historic preservation—make new construction difficult. Even as the American population has doubled since the 1940s, it has gotten more and more legally challenging to build houses. The result is that younger Americans are locked out of suitable housing. And as I’ve argued previously, when young people have to rent or live in more crowded housing, they tend to postpone the major personal events marking transformation into settled adulthood, such as marriage and childbearing.

But, of course, Boomers didn’t only make rules that nudge young people out of homeownership. They also made new rules restricting young people’s employment. Laws and rules requiring workers to have special licenses, degrees, or certificates to work have proliferated over the past few decades. And while much of this rise came before Boomers were politically active, instead of reversing the trend, they extended it.

Just as tight land-use rules make existing homeowners richer by reducing how many new houses are listed on the market, strict licensing rules make existing workers richer by reducing competition in their fields. And while some industries clearly need licensing rules for health and safety reasons, most of the growth in licensure has been in fields where health and safety justifications are less salient: Do you really need hours of course work and special exams to be a florist, an interior designer, or an auctioneer?

By privileging existing workers, licensure rules increase income inequality, and they do so specifically by shifting income toward older workers. When licensure standards exclude felons, they also disproportionately affect minorities. Young people, and especially minorities, are increasingly being legally prohibited from work.

Read: Will Baby Boomers change the meaning of retirement?

Again, scholars differ on explanations for why licensure has proliferated. It could be that work has simply gotten more complex. Or it could be that the decline of unions led to a search for new ways to maintain occupational closure. Increased gender and racial integration in workplaces may also have led to a search for new forms of hierarchy.

But even for workers who don’t need a formal license, barriers to work have grown over time. Jobs that once required a high-school degree now require a college degree. This escalation of credential requirements has created a kind of educational arms race. The rise in collegiate attainment, again, did not begin with Boomers. Rather, the GI Bill, and the explosion in new university chartering that it underwrote, created a new norm of college education for many jobs. With the rising availability of higher education, employers, who tend to be older than their employees, often demand degrees as licenses.

Meanwhile, even as higher education gets more expensive, the actual economic returns to a university degree are about flat. People who are more educated make more money than people with less education, but overall, most educational groups are just treading water. The social norm requiring degrees for virtually any middle-class job is one largely invented by Boomers and their parents, and enforced by those generations.

As with formal licensing and land-use rules, there are explanations for the rise of degree requirements: greater public support for education, a complex economy, growing demand for knowledge-workers. All probably have some validity. But the actual enforcement mechanism for this norm is explicitly generational: older employers setting standards for younger job applicants.

And whatever specific factors contributed to the rise of licensure, land-use rules, and demands for more degrees, these developments are part of a wider social trend toward increasing control and regulation across all walks of life. Regardless of changes in formal segregation, unionization, demand for knowledge workers, returns to various asset classes, or other explanations for the rise of work and housing regulation, what is striking is that these trends occurred simultaneously. A graph tracking the rise in paperwork needed to start a new business, or the length of census questionnaires, or the length of the federal code, or virtually any measure of administrative or regulatory complexity would show the same basic trend. Sector-specific explanations seem a bit suspect when the trend itself is so general.

Read: The disappearing right to earn a living

The most glaring example of this growth in regulation and control is also the easiest one to pin on Baby Boomers: the incredible rise in incarceration rates. Even though murder rates are today at the same levels they were in the 1950s, the imprisoned share of the population is higher in America than in any country other than North Korea. We imprison a larger share of the population than authoritarian countries such as Turkmenistan and China.

That huge spike has a very clear origin in the crime wave of the 1960s and 1970s. Academic research has shown that incarcerating more criminals does reduce crime somewhat, so, as with all the other examples I’ve given, this response was understandable.

But many countries experienced a similar crime wave. Most of them experienced similar crime declines in the 1990s, even without so much imprisonment. Furthermore, research has also shown that imprisonment patterns in America were heavily biased by race, with incarceration rates not always reflecting actual rates of criminality.

Today, while incarceration rates are edging lower, they remain astonishingly high. Even as younger Americans are locked out of jobs and housing by strict rules set by previous generations, a startlingly large share of them, especially in minority communities, are literally behind bars. Those who remain free are nonetheless bereft of family, friends, and potential co-workers—and whole communities are, as a matter of law, stripped of potential workers.

It’s understandable that, faced with a wave of crime, Baby Boomers might want to respond with a law-enforcement crackdown. But the scale of the response was disproportionate. The rush to respond to a social ill with control, with extra rules and procedures, with the commanding power of the state, has been typical of American policy making in the postwar period, and especially since the 1970s. And whatever specific arguments may have justified a command-and-control response to crime, this kind of response reared its head for every major political problem encountered by Baby Boomers: housing, jobs, education, crime, and, of course, debt.

Read: The black family in the age of mass incarceration

Even young Americans today who are free from prison are nonetheless in bondage to debt—sometimes their own debt, in the form of rapidly growing student loans or personal and credit-card loans. But on a larger scale, the problems of entitlements, pensions, Social Security, Medicare, and federal, state, and local debt are becoming more severe all the time. Already, in places such as Detroit, Illinois, and Puerto Rico, where political rules make flexible solutions hard and the population is aging very quickly, massive debt restructurings loom large. But around the country, the pressures of long-term obligations will grow.

Below, I show a reasonable projection of the share of national income that will have to be spent paying for these obligations in the future if there is no substantial restructuring of liabilities. It’s based on consensus forecasts from groups such as the Congressional Budget Office and the Office of Management and Budget for economic growth and for programs such as Social Security and Medicare where such forecasts are available—but in some cases, such as state debts and pensions, no such forecast was available, and so I developed a simple one.

Making these payments will require fiscal austerity, through either higher taxes or lower alternative spending. Younger Americans will bear the burdens of the Baby Boomer generation, whether in smaller take-home pay or more potholes and worse schools.

Furthermore, the basic demographic balance sheet is getting worse all the time, increasing the relative burden on young people. Working-age Americans are dying off in alarming numbers.

The odds of a 32-year-old dying have risen by 24 percent in the past five years, even as death rates among older Americans are about stable. Baby Boomers are living longer even as the workers who pay for their pensions are dying from an epidemic of drug overdose, suicide, car accidents, and violence. But, of course, while this sudden increase in working-age death rates is a new concern, the long-run fiscal crunch has been obvious for decades. For virtually the entire period of Boomer political dominance, it has been obvious that long-term obligations needed to be fixed. And yet, the problem has not been fixed. Younger Americans will suffer the consequences.

As dire as this all sounds, there is cause for hope. If the problem is too many senseless rules, then the solution is obvious. Strict licensure standards can be repealed. Minimum lot sizes can be reduced. Building-height ceilings can be raised. Nonviolent prisoners can have their sentences commuted. Even thorny problems such as cost control in universities can be addressed through caps on non-instructional spending, while solutions for government debt and obligations are widely known, even if they are politically unpalatable.

Not all of these problems were first caused by the Boomers, but they each worsened on their watch. If leaders in business, education, and politics want to solve these problems, they can. Whether the gerontocracy in charge today wants solutions may be another question altogether.

We want to hear what you think about this article. Submit a letter to the editor or write to letters@theatlantic.com.

Lyman Stone is a research fellow at the Institute for Family Studies.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/boomers-are-blame-aging-america/592336/

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Date: June 24th, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: Umber mood office

whoa cr

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Date: June 24th, 2019 5:57 PM
Author: Shaky business firm

yeah this country is fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434128)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:00 PM
Author: Cobalt Sanctuary Organic Girlfriend

Article didn’t really deliver. Like the title though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434140)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:36 PM
Author: Dashing Vermilion Crackhouse

This was enough to sum up what Boomers have wrought:

"The odds of a 32-year-old dying have risen by 24 percent in the past five years, even as death rates among older Americans are about stable. Baby Boomers are living longer even as the workers who pay for their pensions are dying from an epidemic of drug overdose, suicide, car accidents, and violence."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434253)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:48 PM
Author: Shaky business firm



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:08 PM
Author: charismatic nudist alpha

“American society is going through a strange set of shifts: Even as cultural values are in rapid flux, political institutions seem frozen in time. The average U.S. state constitution is more than 100 years old. We are in the third-longest period without a constitutional amendment in American history: The longest such period ended in the Civil War. So what’s to blame for this institutional aging?”

Stopped here. Blaming Boomers for not being sufficiently progressive is fucking clown world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434589)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:31 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Parlour Goal In Life



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:02 PM
Author: Wonderful karate genital piercing

Check out this shitboomer comment on his twitter thread:

@TheAtlantic

and

@AEI

Ironic that your message is distributed largely through technology developed and financed by the boomers you’re so critical of.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1143143503393767425



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:10 PM
Author: misunderstood flushed sex offender



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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:22 PM
Author: Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin

checkmate

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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:33 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Parlour Goal In Life

so ironic!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435754)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 5:18 AM
Author: Supple Pit

GAS ALL

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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:16 PM
Author: avocado bateful set mother

we boomers invented the world...you lot are mere detritus among the world we built...look upon our works, ye wimps and grovel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434184)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:21 PM
Author: Slimy Gunner Place Of Business

XO cucks LOVE boomer zoning to protect their property values instead of allowing new development.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434196)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:37 PM
Author: Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin

Higher population density in a city = higher real estate costs. Adding more units just makes the median property size smaller and allows more people to move in to a finite space of land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434440)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 5:01 PM
Author: Chestnut lascivious temple

Higher population density = higher density of EVIL. Cities are evil.

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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:58 PM
Author: Zippy razzle-dazzle lodge macaca

ljl boomers were able to build what they wanted where they wanted, then made laws to prevent others from doing so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434532)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:21 PM
Author: Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot

Started out promising, then veered into neoliberal propaganda about how we need to to “slash regulations” and build Singapore style housing towers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434200)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: avocado bateful set mother

ackshually, slashing regs is the opposite of neoliberalism...the rich and powerful created these regs so they can keep the upper hand...we need radical change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434226)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:04 PM
Author: Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot

Fair points

Regs do make for monopoly moats when the government isn’t vigilant about breaking the companies up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434573)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:13 PM
Author: avocado bateful set mother

The govt has not been vigilant about breaking the companies up since the 70s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434608)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:17 PM
Author: misunderstood flushed sex offender

slashing regulations is a core tenet of neoliberalism wtf are you talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434627)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: avocado bateful set mother

then how come bush and trump did not do so when they had congress?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434680)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:32 PM
Author: misunderstood flushed sex offender

clinton and tony blair were considered neoliberals, it's not a party thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434691)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: avocado bateful set mother

straw man

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Date: June 25th, 2019 4:01 PM
Author: misunderstood flushed sex offender

what

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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: buff native striped hyena

Was pretty much trash from the second paragraph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435851)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 6:27 PM
Author: Ivory fighting theater stage

A young man sits on a hotel-room bed, alone, and looks out the window

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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:48 PM
Author: Cyan Spot



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Date: June 24th, 2019 7:51 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Clear Shrine Dragon

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/10/the-least-we-can-do/308228/

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/10/who-destroyed-the-economy-the-case-against-the-baby-boomers/263291/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434499)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:06 PM
Author: Sapphire Tantric Area

solution: import millions of mexicans and somalians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38434580)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:08 PM
Author: charismatic nudist alpha



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Date: June 25th, 2019 4:13 PM
Author: razzle hunting ground state



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Date: June 24th, 2019 8:32 PM
Author: nighttime mad-dog skullcap



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Date: June 24th, 2019 10:43 PM
Author: Comical Underhanded Market

Stupid article claiming that "radical political change" and society being more responsive to diverse, gay, and broke millennials is the answer. Advocates for typical faglib ideas like getting rid of single family homes and "lowering the incarceration rate."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435313)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:10 AM
Author: Ebony friendly grandma



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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:27 AM
Author: Tripping station gaping

Fuck boomers.

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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: Tripping station gaping

We've got some crypto boomers in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435873)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 12:59 AM
Author: coiffed cuckold

we have a couple of actual boomers too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435875)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 1:02 AM
Author: Topaz nofapping menage

ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435885)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 1:07 AM
Author: Splenetic Wine Step-uncle's House Roast Beef

Ok article but he cuck couched a lot of shit by saying things like “Boomers and older generations...” and “this didn’t start with the boomers...”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38435894)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 3:52 PM
Author: hyperventilating irate queen of the night coffee pot

Mass incarceration is the one good thing boomers did. I'd just like to see more capital punishment as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38438721)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 5:36 PM
Author: Chestnut lascivious temple



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Date: June 25th, 2019 4:48 PM
Author: Chestnut lascivious temple

This retarded. Zoning isn't preventing people from living in single family houses. Zoning is the only thing that preserves single family housing in a lot of places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38439045)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 5:15 PM
Author: Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin

House prices have almost nothing to do with zoning in the long run anyway. They are driven by net migration in or out & disposable income. Housing is extremely expensive in SF largely because several of the world's ten largest companies are based there and have effective monopolies in their industries that allow them to overpay on salaries. Housing is cheap in Toledo for the opposite reasons. It's that simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38439184)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 8:03 PM
Author: Tripping station gaping

That's nonsense. Zoning affects supply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38439951)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 8:36 PM
Author: Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin

That's the reasoning error every single person makes. Adding more housing supply just means people pay less for less home, and even this effect only lasts for a short amount of time before the price acceleration resumes. The same home apples to apples never goes down in price from higher density. What does a single-detached home go for in lower Manhattan? What about downtown Vancouver or Hong Kong? They don't even exist. They were replaced by high density structures as people flooded in, and now a "home" in those places is a 1500 sq. ft. condo for $2 million. Do a thought experiment and ask yourself, if you owned a third of an acre in Manhattan in the 1890s, what the effect of building mass high-density housing to house all the newcomers, such that hundreds of thousands of newcomers are housed in small apartments and you still have a big house with a yard, would be on your property value?

The thing that makes places expensive is population density + discretionary capital to spend (usually from wages). That's it. Ironically the higher density housing almost certainly makes the housing cost worse as it encourages higher population density.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38440084)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 11:51 PM
Author: Orange Mewling Bawdyhouse Idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38441038)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 11:53 PM
Author: Umber mood office

finally someone on XO with a fucking brain jesus christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38441046)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 4:32 AM
Author: Tripping station gaping

You imagine you're among them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38441486)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 4:55 AM
Author: Tripping station gaping

You've disregarded the distinction between supply and demand.

Your Manhattan hypo proves the point. You think you're talking about supply, but then you talk about "all the newcomers," which is a demand issue.

What would be the effect on my SFR on 1/3 acre if demand went up as a result of your newcomers? The price would increase.

What would happen to per-unit housing costs on that lot if I replaced the SFR with a tall multi-family residential tower? All else equal, they'd drop.

What would happen to the prices of each SFR on that lot if I could have three houses instead of one? All else equal, the prices would drop.

Your examples all depend on rising supply and rising demand, which tells us nothing when the question is what would happen if supply were to increase.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38441505)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 5:55 AM
Author: Abnormal domesticated affirmative action turdskin

I said exactly this, that per-unit costs go down only because you're getting less house (one third of a triplex or a condo instead of an actual detached house with a yard).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38441577)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 5:17 PM
Author: impressive telephone voyeur

why THE FUCK are libs suddenly pushing the "mass incarceration is bad" meme so hard? do they WANT more violent crime in american cities? what the fuck is their problem? libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38439194)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: Supple Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4289310&forum_id=2#38607245)