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Best Way To Cook Burger w/o BBQ?
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:14 PM Author: Canary resort should i use pan? grill pan? george foreman grill? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484434) |
Date: July 4th, 2019 9:19 PM Author: Alcoholic gas station ljl at foreman grill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484448) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:24 PM Author: Canary resort i have it from law school / bachelor cooking. havent used it in a long long time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484460) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:40 AM Author: Autistic Sandwich it's great for quickly cooking chicken breast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498365) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:25 PM Author: glittery giraffe DESCRIBE your burger first (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484464) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:26 PM Author: Canary resort about to make now. any ideas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484468) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:30 PM Author: glittery giraffe - Most important: Highest fat content you can get (85/15 works great) - assuming you are working with about 1 lbs of meat, mix in a packet of French onion soup mix and about 2 tbsp of spicy mustard - if adding cheese, add it during the last 30 seconds of cooking and cover pan with lid Any normal stovetop pan is fine EDIT: make the patties a good 20% larger circumference than what you want. They'll shrink bigly |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:32 PM Author: Alcoholic gas station I don't think DBG will be adding cheese (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484483) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:32 PM Author: Canary resort cr, ljl at this goy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484485) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:09 PM Author: glittery giraffe Lol at changing ur recommendation for cr burgers just because ur talking to some goddamn jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484577) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: Canary resort i said burger not cheeseburger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484621) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:34 PM Author: Canary resort already have lean ground beef. SPS?
we were thinking of putting in garlic cloves, onions, liquid smoke and parsley. how's that sound?
why pan over the foreman? dat grill lines |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: Boyish Hominid Bawdyhouse a good burger just needs salt and pepper. add other flavor with toppings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484605) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Boyish Hominid Bawdyhouse not 85/15. 80/20 minimum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484598) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:29 PM Author: glittery giraffe I said highest fat content possible. I mentioned 85 because I've noticed it much more widely available than 80, and I don't think I've seen anything in the 70s in years. And I live in are country. The stores in town typically don't carry 80, and the in-store fresh ground (which I get) is more like 85-ish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484633) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:35 PM Author: Boyish Hominid Bawdyhouse my inlaws brought over pre-made 88/12 burgers the other day. awful. people are dumb. what is thepoint of trying to be “healthy” with a lower fat burger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484649) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:33 PM Author: spectacular drunken roast beef regret BBQ them, obv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484487) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:35 PM Author: ungodly kitty cat i have really good success in both a non-stick (All-Clad) and a cast iron.
i tend to make thinner burgers (kids don't like any pink), so getting it precisely to temperature isn't usually a concern.
- I use an 80/20 mix - I don't add a damn thing to my mix. I use a custom blend of roasted garlic powder, kosher salt, onion powder and coarse-grind black and white pepper on both sides of the burger prior to cooking. - get your pan nice and hot. use a bit of neutral oil - poaster above has good advice re: cheese. |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:37 PM Author: Canary resort i want a good rare-ish to medium rare and don't want to overcook it. should i make them THICK?
get the pan hot? like should i be using the highest heat on the burner? |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:42 PM Author: ungodly kitty cat Yeah, i find anything over an inch or so sort of oafishly large, but if you want rare-ish, you can definitely achieve it that way. 2 or three minutes on each side should work.
Pan should be pretty screaming hot. test a few droplets of water in it prior to putting burgers in. if it dances and evaporates right away, you're good. |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:51 PM Author: Canary resort tyft. we're going to do half-pound burgers. how large should i start out with?
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:54 PM Author: ungodly kitty cat i'm starting to get tinges of "how to smoke weed in a hotel room" here, but assuming this isn't some weird flame:
make a softball sized patty. smash/form it with your hands or between wax paper. season.
slide and let do. |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:38 PM Author: Coral Titillating Quadroon Boil (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484494) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:43 PM Author: ungodly kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484504) |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 11:28 AM Author: Twinkling shaky knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38486164) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 12:49 AM Author: Soul-stirring violent pisswyrm https://nutritionfacts.org/2013/07/04/avoiding-cooked-meat-carcinogens/ (Michael Greger) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:41 PM Author: Cordovan laughsome windowlicker keepsake machete if you really want to do it right cook it like a steak and sear it in something that can do that - like a cast iron pan, then do oven (maybe not necc depending on thickness of burger).
You can also just pan fry it in its own fat and it will be just fine, use any pan. There will be a lot of fat in the pan.
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:46 PM Author: buck-toothed chad state if you don't make them very thick just use a pan
if you do then sear in a pan and finish in the oven
for full :D creds go sous vide |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:53 PM Author: Canary resort how thick is too thick for the pan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484529) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 9:57 PM Author: buck-toothed chad state I dunno man I'm no burger scientist. I believe "oafish" is the appropriate measure here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484546) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:00 PM Author: olive corner Ljl at jews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484548) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:00 PM Author: spectacular drunken roast beef regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484549) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Boyish Hominid Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484601) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: erotic generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484624) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: glittery giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484639) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:39 AM Author: charismatic dun brunch roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498364) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:52 AM Author: Tan stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498398) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:03 PM Author: chartreuse racy half-breed son of senegal Wtf doesn’t have a bbq? Are you some mfh fag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484557) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:05 PM Author: Canary resort no shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484563) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:09 PM Author: cracking senate gaping https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/lodge-round-fry-pan/?pkey=clodge-cookware&isx=0.0.489
Or
I used to use the grill pan for burgers but have gone back to the pan. Grill pan is saved for chicken and fish |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: Canary resort grill pan is such a pain in the ass to clean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484622) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: cracking senate gaping Yeah, I use this
https://theringer.myshopify.com/products/the-ringer-cleaning-rings
And a good brush
It is great for cooking stuff like tuna steaks though
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:27 PM Author: Yellow marvelous ticket booth crotch Propane torch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484628) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:29 PM Author: mischievous heady therapy Cast iron pan and a few tbsp’s of butter - use the butter as a basting liquid and get a spoon to splash the butter on the burgers.
I’ve been cooking some bone marrow burgers - pretty damn good man. |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:41 PM Author: Canary resort butter???? arent u the xo resident talmid hacham? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484667) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 11:30 PM Author: mischievous heady therapy Thank you for the praises but I have maybe half a letter of learning to my name - Phineas and I am sure many others even on this board are 100x more learned than me.
As for the prohibition - I think that the Karites are right in their literal reading of the law - basically the prohibition is the same as it is with the birds nest and shooing the mother away - to cook an animals offspring in the milk of its mother is specifically an abomination because it is an affront to G-d’s work - you are taking the nurturing production of a mother and using it to cook her offspring that you have killed - possibly with the mother even seeing this being done if you think of the pastoralist nomadic life of herders - to even someone with no religious background at all that is an abomination when you really think about it. By doing this act intentionally you are mocking G-d - however in the modern world you are not getting meat typically from the same herd so it isn’t a specific Mother-Child animal risk - so the literal Karaite reading of this law makes a LOT more sense, versus a blanket prohibition on all meat and dairy combinations - which I think might be to specifically eliminate the risk of this above scenario from occurring unintentionally or intentionally.
Why do I think this? Because of the commandment In the 613 with the birds and when you take the young you must shoo the parent bird away - for the bird to see someone take its young from its nest which it lovingly built is an awful thing - I think the RamBam wrote about this and how deeply fucked up and wrong it is, on so many levels for someone to do this.
Mixing meat and dairy - per se - I do not see a problem with because it’s not an intentional act to pervert creation and the natural order of things, I haven’t read much writings on this though if I can read other halachot about this that say something different or put something new in the light for me to understand.
Possibly if you wanted to be really careful you might use goat or sheep’s milk butter to cook beef - to remove even the slightest possibility of the milk of the mother animal from coming in contact with the meat of its offspring of it were slaughtered at the same time of its milking - due to two different species of animals. |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 12:04 AM Author: Ivory rigor Hitler was right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38485006) |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 9:33 AM Author: Canary resort 180 read.... but:
1) doesn't matter that the karaites are right, though. jews are not karaites and we're bound by precedent and not free to reinterpret it.
2) it's very well accepted that the laws/mitzvot don't have to make sense and be logical and rational. we're still bound by the chukkim. |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 11:11 AM Author: mischievous heady therapy I understand being bound by precedent, however I think that the deeper you go into questioning the Talmud you are going to find issues that will make you wonder more and more about just what happened during the Babylonian Captivity. |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 11:23 AM Author: Canary resort i've always heard of it referred to as a chok. a quick google of meat and milk chok comes up with:
In any event, it is clear that the main reason for this mitzvah is beyond comprehension. Hence, it is referred to as a chok—a statute that we fulfill simply because it is the will of G‑d, although we don't understand it.11
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1149824/jewish/Meat-Milk.htm |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 11:25 AM Author: mischievous heady therapy Ok, I can see that it is considered part of the chukkim in rabbinical Judaism - but I think that there is some fundamental logic into why its banned, that is also clearly understood by the Karaites.
I do not think that this is on the same level of uncomprehendability as the red heifer or the breaking of the calf's back in a field in response to an unsolved murder however. |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 2:21 PM Author: Canary resort not eating pork is definitely a chok, even though we can try to logic out why pigs might have been unhealthy. do you think the prohibited animals are chukkim? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38487073) |
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Date: July 6th, 2019 2:44 AM Author: mischievous heady therapy I think there is a difference of degree between chok such as the red heifer or slaughtering a heifer in response to an unsolved murder and not being able to plow the valley where the heifer was killed versus dietary prohibitions.
Just as you said, it is possible to logic out why pigs and other animals are unhealthy due to disease risk and them being filth. Does the presence of readily discernible logic mean that these prohibitions are indeed chukkim? I think that the presence of precedent does not substitute for truly uncomprehendible chukkim - such as the three commandments I discussed earlier (Red Heifer and then the slaughter of a heifer in a river valley in response to an unsolved murder and subsequent prohibition on plowing that valley)
In the case of the red heifer, students were banned by a famous sage for even attempting to comprehend it due to it being impossible to comprehend or understand. |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 12:47 AM Author: Canary resort i see what you're saying.
but, you could say that the most extreme examples of uncomprehendible chukkim don't negate the fact that other chukkim are chukkim
btw, speaking of bizarre shit, while not a torah commandment, i find the firstborn female black cat thing in the gemara (berachot 6) even more bizarre and uncomprehendible than the red heifer. wtf do u make of that? |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 11:03 AM Author: mischievous heady therapy You see that kind of bizarre shit in Gittin 69a as well - I think it has to do with influence during the Galut Bavli (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38494351) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:38 AM Author: Canary resort woah this is some weird fucking shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498354) |
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Date: July 4th, 2019 10:45 PM Author: supple potus If you have a grill pan that could work. I'm a nobeefmo and do turkey burgers usually, that obviously needs to be cooked thoroughly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38484684) |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 8:43 AM Author: Mewling mental disorder useless brakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92rQ1I6Qn4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38485574) |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 11:40 AM Author: shimmering impertinent theater jew Crack an egg on top and let do raw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38486239) |
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Date: July 5th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Floppy Location have TMF bake it for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38486350) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:52 AM Author: Tan stag film I have a grill and would never make it without cheese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498400) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 12:48 AM Author: Bateful maroon psychic multi-billionaire Lol at all the retards itt. Do you think they have a bbq at McDonald's? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38493575) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 12:53 AM Author: fishy house toaster it's called a grill, retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38493586) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 8:58 AM Author: Mewling mental disorder useless brakes I thought about calling OP out for confusing grilling and bbqing but I let it slide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38493980) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 9:09 AM Author: cracking senate gaping Just had a burger topped with a fried egg for breakfast. Cooked egg and burger in the same huge cast iron pan. 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38493992) |
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Date: July 7th, 2019 11:40 PM Author: Canary resort UPDATE: made 180 burgers today.
6oz patties of ground beef, and made a dimple in them (read online that a dimple helps prevent the patty from shrinking).
didn't mix anything inside the ground beef, and just seasoned each side with kosher salt, black pepper and garlic powder.
heated up a non-stick pan with EVOO until it was hot as fuck. cooked the burgers for ~2 mins on each side. and that was it.
turned out to be a perfect rare to medium rare, which is what i was going for. texture on the outside was really crispy and had that bbq smell to it. flavor was 180.
wife made homemade sweet potato chili fries too which were 180. |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:11 AM Author: stimulating shrine party of the first part i will only reply a max of once in this subthread, but you should use canola oil for situations like this. olive oil can't get "hot as fuck" enough without smoking, which is bad. in fact, for cooking burgers, you don't need oil in the pan at all ... the meat will self lubricate with all dat grease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498281) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:39 AM Author: sepia shivering public bath cuck What toppings did you use? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498363) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 1:15 AM Author: Canary resort french mustard, romaine lettuce, tomatoes, pickles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498461) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 12:00 AM Author: Razzle navy background story When the grill is not an option, we usually resort to using a le creuset dutch oven (without the lid off, obviously) on the stove top. It works very similarly to a cast iron pan, but the higher sides eliminate grease splatter, which is an issue with any meat patties worth eating as burgers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498254) |
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Date: July 8th, 2019 1:38 AM Author: appetizing brass twinkling uncleanness jap I can’t, the grease splatters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4296287&forum_id=2#38498499) |