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CharlesXII, taking general Q's about history
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:46 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Been a while since I've done one of these. So far this year I've been trying to fill in my knowledge gaps about some secondary countries I'm interested in, so I've read several books of Polish history. In the near future I plan to read up more on Turkey, Korea, Japan, and Hungary (if I can find a quality book about medieval Hungary; they seem to be quite rare). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681259) |
Date: August 13th, 2019 2:47 PM Author: Krampusnacht Who is the GOAT POTUS of Poland (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681262) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:48 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Westerners would probably classify Jan Sobieski or Wladyslaw Jagiello as the greatest for their smashing military victories, but Casimir III is a good contender for his more peaceful achievements. If you want a warrior king the best one for Poland is Stefan Bathory but all his accomplishments were very transient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681537) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:48 PM Author: create teh fulcrum Did the French revolution accomplish anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681267) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:51 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) A tremendous amount. Even if it ended with monarchy returning (relatively quickly, if you count Napoleon) it's probably the most historically important revolution we've seen. Is there any reason you'd suspect otherwise? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681554) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:54 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) America was free in 1783 which is before 1789. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681573) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:21 PM Author: Upset Jew Uh, Charles is done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682151) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: leolenin How closely do you follow genetics history stuff like David Reich? What's a question youd like to see it answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681271) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:03 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Only secondhand. Most of the genetics history stuff has implications for human pre-history, which I'm bluntly less interested in compared to recorded history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681625) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: my dog has more potential dates than I do (and he’s neutered!) Most alpha Balkan nation in terms of military history? Thanks, love your show, I'll take your answer off the air. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681272) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:11 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Greece wins easily if we're counting all history. If we're looking at the modern nations...I suppose Serbia acquitted itself pretty well during the Balkan Wars and WW1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681670) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:12 PM Author: my dog has more potential dates than I do (and he’s neutered!) Do you really consider Greece part of the Balkans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681678) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:14 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Usually though I guess this could be an eccentric definition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681699) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:12 PM Author: Krampusnacht Lol at this cop-out. In modern usage Balkans = former Yugoslavia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681681) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:14 PM Author: my dog has more potential dates than I do (and he’s neutered!) + Bulgaria, maybe Albania. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681694) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: Harmon Killebrew What's your favorite "off-the-run" military battle (or general)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681274) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:01 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Not familiar this this slang, but if you basically mean "less famous," the entire saga of the Catalan Company is really interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Company |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: .,.,,.;,,.,.,.:..,;..,.,..,.;.;,,:.........:..,.:: Have nonwhites/nonasians ever done anything historically important or worthwhile for civilization? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681276) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: my dog has more potential dates than I do (and he’s neutered!) Egregious azn trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681278) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:52 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) Arabic number system > Roman numerals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681286) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:54 PM Author: .... -^^,--,~.... (π¦) They took those from NOWIGs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681302) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:09 PM Author: TRUMP rulez (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681355) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: ,.,,..,,.,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:, What about sanitation Oh wait this is TT lol |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:17 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) ??? Italians gave us the Roman Empire and the Renaissance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682113) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:00 PM Author: TS Wilbur Mercer (Crypto Musk Ox) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686221) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:52 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) Why didn't the Mexican American war result in the US extending all the way to Panama? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681290) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 8:08 PM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong CQ it absolutely should have, but I wonder if it would have kicked off the civil war even earlier trying to determine whether the new territories would eventually be slave or free stages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682879) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 8:10 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) I don't think there was much interest in that in most of America. Americans liked the idea of seizing sparsely held open territory, but there was no real desire to take in populated areas filled with an alien people that spoke Spanish and practiced Catholicism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682892) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:53 PM Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus) Did Shu Han have a real chance to actually defeat the Wei after the battle of Fancheng?
How many times a day do you think about what was lost after battle of Yarmouk?
who's the POTUS ruler between
Alexios Komnenos, Manuel Komnenos or Basil II? |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 8:26 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Don't really know Three Kingdoms at all.
I listen to The History of Byzantium podcast and I really dislike Islam, so surprisingly often. Probably at least .3 times a day.
Definitely Basil II. His achievements were the greatest and, if his starting position wasn't quite as hard as Alexios's, it was still very rough. It's a tragedy how quickly his successors squandered everything. |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:26 AM Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus) I guess the only nitpick about Basil II is that he almost didn't even care for the line of succession and thinking of the empire beyond his death.
As an AZN i grew up reading 3 kingdoms so it's 180 af, although the one that people read has like 30-40% fiction in it. Still a great read I would recommend tbh |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Yeah, you can knock Constantine for a similar issue. I don't think it undermines his vast achievements though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686090) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 1:37 PM Author: holocene rejector three kingdoms history knower here, shu han was always flame. wei and wu were the only relevant powers, as well as some others that weren't official "three kingdoms" like yuan shao. read rafe de crespigny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686048) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus) I read Rafe de Crespigny, but I find some of his conclusion baffling compared t some of the translated Chinese scholars' work and Korean scholars.
In any case I think there's a case to be made that shu was punching way above his weight - was on the offensive despite being 1/9th the size for a while, and most of all, Wu literally had no legitimate claim to emperorship, (which is why most of Sun Quan's advisors wanted to surrender in the Red Cliffs, b/c Cao Cao had the emperor in his grasp- and Liu Bei provided an ideological center for those unsatisfied w/ Cao Cao's rule to center around, as a member of the imperial family, compared to Sun Quan, a son of a lowly warlord who had no real official position from the central gov't)
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:54 PM Author: ,.,,..,,.,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:, Thoughts on jacobite crisis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681298) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) hitler opting for the caucus mountains over moscow, bad idea? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681307) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: ..,,,.,,.,.,,,.....,,.,,,.,.,.,...,.,, thoughts on bill gates exploding the population of africa by a billion people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681308) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: gibberish https://www.amazon.com/Conjuring-Hitler-Britain-America-Third/dp/074532181X
Thoughts on this premise |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:06 PM Author: barnabyjones Germany wins WW2. what happens? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681339) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:07 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) Their rule is too despotic to be that sustainable. They didn't even appear to try to win over the population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681346) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:24 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) That depends greatly on what you mean by "winning" World War 2. Getting an early peace in 1940 after Fall Gelb? Conquering Moscow in 1941? Conquering Britain AND Russia and ruling all of Europe? The more limited the victory, the more plausible it was that it could have actually happened.
As for what would happen after that...incredibly difficult to say. The resistance to their rule would be fierce, but the Nazis themselves were also incredibly brutal, so they'd probably have few qualms about using extreme force to keep them down.
Also, while Hitler has a lot of really wacky ideas about what to do after a final victory, that doesn't mean all of it was going to happen. Hitler would eventually die or get incapacitated, of course, and then the big question would be who would in the internal power struggle. A Himmler-run Third Reich is more kooky and extreme than a Wehrmacht military government, for instance.
I'd hazard this as the most extensive German victory that was reasonably possible: Germany smashes the USSR and makes them give up big territorial concessions in Eastern Europe, then forces Britain into an armistice with a few territorial concessions in the Mediterranean. Germany never goes to war with the US. In a situation like this, I'd expect a lot of pro-German puppet governments being set up all over. I don't think Nazi extermination ideology would last deep into peacetime, simply because humans are pretty useful as workers and simply murdering human capital wholesale is pretty deeply irrational. So while you'd get German settler colonialism/ascendancy in the East, I don't know that Hitler would follow through on a plan to literally exterminate Slavs. Jews might still have been killed, or they might be expelled as the Nazis planned before the war. |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:46 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) But how do you build hotels on lakes if locals are going to raid and terrorize vacationing German? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681908) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:13 PM Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,.., Just watch Man in the High Castle on AmazonPrime to find out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682091) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 9:35 AM Author: barnabyjones I want the real take, not the hollywierd/shitty Dick take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38684822) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:51 PM Author: GOY How did crusader states work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681556) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:53 PM Author: ;.;.;.;....;;;;;...;;;;;.;.;.;;;..;;.;; Average number of sexual partners for peasants in the Middle Ages? Both male and female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681563) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: TRUMP rulez (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681590) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:20 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Almost impossible to say because information on peasants is so lacking. However, the very very good book Montaillou suggests there was no shortage of fucking the Church would disapprove of, including by the Church's own representatives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682141) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 3:58 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle Describe Poland in the 1600s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681601) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:00 PM Author: ,,,.,,,,;.,.,::;,,;..,,::.,.,,..:,:,.:..:,..:.::, The 3 most important presidential elections in U.S. history? Your favorite Chinese dynasty? Most underrated military leaders? |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins If the Byzantine could reverse the course of one battle disaster from the actual outcome to a top 5% outcome, which would have the biggest impact? How about you rank them?
Yarmouk Manzikert 4th crusade 1453 |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Yarmouk makes this too easy. It's the earliest by far, did the most overall damage, and it happened to an empire that was basically strong but gravely weakened from plague plus a long war; if they hadn't been overrun by Arabs at that moment it would likely have never happened. Also, reversing it would also reverse Islam which would be extremely 180 because Islam is awful.
Picking between the other three is a more interesting choice. I think I'd have to go with the 4th Crusade, which is the event that permanently broke the empire. Winning in 1453 is too late to do much of note, and I'm not sure winning at Manzikert would have averted catastrophe either. The Empire was really politically unhealthy at that time and a win there might have still led to disaster within a few years.
There are a lot of less-famous setbacks that might have improved the empire's fortunes greatly, though. For example, after Manzikert the Byzantines actually did recover quite a bit of Anatolia, but then 100 years later they got crushed at Myriokephalon. Reverse THAT battle and you might have a strong empire that is never exposed to the 4th Crusade in the first place. |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:11 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins Tyft
Good call on the post Manikert recovery |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: ..,,,.,,.,.,,,.....,,.,,,.,.,.,...,.,, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682203) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:42 PM Author: Krampusnacht who should I respect more: the Ottomans or the Mughals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681878) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:20 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) What is the argument you would even make for the Mughals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682147) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:28 PM Author: Krampusnacht idk people might find them more culturally impressive because of the Taj Mahal or because Akbar was so scholarly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682201) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:43 PM Author: chandler (retired) At what point in history did Vienna have the most influence as a city and why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681887) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 4:45 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) Why did USA lose faith in Trujillo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38681898) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 1:35 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Viewing "the USA" as a cohesive entity during the mid-Cold War is hard work. As more stuff comes out about the CIA it seems increasingly clear it was routinely a bunch of borderline-incompetent guys making it all up as they went along in pursuit of some vague notion of "American interests." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686037) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 5:32 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) what were the biggest blunders of the pelopennsian war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682225) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 7:20 PM Author: Krampusnacht If you could hang out with just ONE Union general, who would you hang out with? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682701) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 7:43 PM Author: ,,,.,,,,;.,.,::;,,;..,,::.,.,,..:,:,.:..:,..:.::, Obvious answer is Grant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682782) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 8:27 PM Author: Krampusnacht what does Charles have in common with that POISON drinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682965) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 8:09 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Probably Rosecrans. Besides being a convert to Catholicism, he was also an intellectual who loved keeping his officers up late with discussions on theology and philosophy. He's definitely a general after my own heart.
Too bad he screwed up at Chickamauga. |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 7:26 PM Author: Dupa Who would you say is "the grandfather of history"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682726) |
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Date: August 13th, 2019 7:39 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) herodatus he's a bit kooky since he believed in the gods. thucydides is the first legit the father i would say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38682773) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:23 AM Author: Dupa Wrong. Father Time has them all beat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38684976) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 9:46 AM Author: .,.,,.;,,.,.,.:..,;..,.,..,.;.;,,:.........:..,.:: Thoughts on Hawley-Smoot tariffs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38684860) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 1:42 PM Author: PeteSassyBraveNavyFruit (aka TS Whitney) Was Teddy Roosevelt a prick for running against Taft in 1912? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686081) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: \'\"\'\'\'\'\"\'\'\"\" When did Israeli lobbyists in Washington start to become influential? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686084) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:34 PM Author: longwangpoontang Is Isolationism never not a sign of decline? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686449) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:35 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) Elaborate. Plenty of very nice countries have been quite isolationist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686454) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:40 PM Author: longwangpoontang Countries above a certain level of strength, going from full to medium engaged in regional/global affairs taking a turn towards isolationism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686478) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII) What are your historical examples? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686489) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: Krampusnacht Interventionalist here, but the USA was hardly in a decline in the 1920's when isolationism had its heydey, nor in the 1950's when isolationsts were a major political force (they lost, but were prominent) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686490) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:45 PM Author: Krampusnacht Who was the nuttiest dictator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686517) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: TS Amanda Strong (ππΊπ©π»π€) Is there a harder nigga than Josephus in the Historian game? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686550) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:01 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins What if Charles the Bold triumphs in the Burgundian Wars and then sires a few heirs? Any major impact today (e.g., theres a country now called “Burgundy”) or would the duchy still inevitably get overwhelmed by France and the Hapsburgs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686650) |
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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:08 PM Author: *<[]:D (classical education at home -- Bauer) describe east germany protest in november 1989 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4322536&forum_id=2#38686691) |