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t/f: crying about us sovereign debt is low-iq tell

yes, crowding out is a potential issue but people bleed from...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
what makes me worry is most U.S. sovereign debt is in short-...
Razzle-dazzle lodge
  08/18/19
Saw this relevant comment on zman blog: It’s wise t...
claret abode
  08/18/19
this isn’t relevant, but it is pretty dumb. debt alone...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
So can we keep borrowing to infinity?
aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman
  08/18/19
xoxo is a place where the aryan cognitive elite deal in nuan...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
What downsides to you see to unlimited government borrowing?...
claret abode
  08/18/19
“We can borrow incrementally more” =/= “we...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
it's something to consider, like a lot of other minor things...
Swollen locus
  08/18/19
this sounds like an invitation to take this thread in a dire...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
well, then take your shitty thread to Free Republic, you dum...
Swollen locus
  08/18/19
immigration is a big deal to you because you’re afraid...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Or why don't you create your own 478th thread about demograp...
aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman
  08/18/19
You’re making the most bullish case possible for ownin...
claret abode
  08/18/19
yet another tangent i’d prefer not to kill brain cells...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
What if the USD is no longer the reserve currency because of...
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
what if aliens invade earth and kill us all tomorrow? i t...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Why don't we just spend a bazillion dollars a year? You'r...
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
Did everyone on this thread bomb the lsat? Lmao holy fucking...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
So you think the whole rest of the world just won't care bec...
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
Listen. I’m suggesting that our car has enough gas to ...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Ok yeah I get that. Obviously it's not a near-term issue, go...
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
...
claret abode
  08/18/19
Your second point isn’t responsive to anything I said....
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
When people say they are concerned about the national debt, ...
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
This must to be Obeezy or Bart's pumo.
lemon costumed stead blood rage
  08/18/19
China taking over isn’t that far fetched. They obvio...
Onyx Out-of-control Den Main People
  08/18/19
This is besides the point IMO. the Chinese have trillions ti...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Why are stocks and other risk assets not increasing in value...
spectacular haunted graveyard
  08/18/19
lol they’re not? i don’t think market activity o...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Worrying over social security going "bankrupt" is ...
bateful juggernaut lay
  08/18/19
k
exciting stag film
  08/18/19
How is everyone on xoxo so stupid tho?
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Op is wicked smart
Sinister principal's office
  08/18/19
I mean even a midget is massive compared to an ant
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Actually this thread explains why the national debt remains ...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
...
aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman
  08/18/19
can't tell if sarcastic
exciting stag film
  08/18/19
It’s dtp/gatormo
claret abode
  08/18/19
I’ll off myself before I ever let you people associate...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Best investments to make now?
claret abode
  08/18/19
I have no fucking idea. I’m all out of short to medium...
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
Best investments to make now?
exciting stag film
  08/18/19
SHY
transparent psychic locale
  08/18/19
bummer
claret abode
  08/20/19
Agree in the abstract that US should borrow MOAR, but our go...
hyperactive adulterous hunting ground people who are hurt
  08/18/19
Almost certainly true
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
...
contagious lilac stage mediation
  08/18/19
OP is we wuz kangs genius
unhinged useless lettuce
  08/18/19
Good job I’m smarter now because you posted this
Crawly jewess meetinghouse
  08/18/19
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Date: August 18th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

yes, crowding out is a potential issue but people bleed from their vaginas about the national debt because it plays well to the average idiot that compares the federal balance sheet to a household credit card

we borrow in our own currency. there is no viable alternative to the us dollar (europe is fucking imploading and the chinese are still devaluing the yuan). the real question is why aren’t we borrowing *more* money to fund infrastructure and defense and shit.

ok now freak out because this seems unintuitive and crazy to your english/poli sci major brain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704272)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 4:15 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle lodge

what makes me worry is most U.S. sovereign debt is in short-term notes; while it makes lots of sense to borrow at current short-term rates, we may be fucked if rates sky-rocket. Sure, we have inflation as a back stop, but that ends the government borrowing gravy train and we stop being the world's reserve currency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705495)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:04 AM
Author: claret abode

Saw this relevant comment on zman blog:

It’s wise to take a middle position on economic collapse scenarios. Z’s mentioned the “NeverBulls” before – perma-Bears who’ve predicted 10 of the last 3 recessions at ZeroHedge, complete with “Cross of Doom” graphs for midwit quants. I spent a lot of time awaiting that Apocalypse in the last 20 years and suffered financially for it (looked smart in 2001 and 2008 but that made me 90% wrong). The libertarians and GOP (same thing on economics) rely on fiscal fearmongering to sell their snake oil, and I bought in hard.

I think 2008 (and the Cyprus crisis a few years later) showed how collapse will play out in the near future. The owners of the global financial casinos will simply dip into the taxpayers till to back up their bad bets. The guys pimping “gold or die” on the Blaze Levin show and even some credible dissident right outlets are selling their own brand of snake oil.

That said, if recent Wall Street divorce trials and the Epstein scandal show us anything, the global financial system is run by high IQ cokehead degenerates at best and midwit cokehead degenerates on average. Some combination of these guys may cause damage that the system can’t absorb. We can’t completely rule out a collapse even though I think it’s a fairly low probability event. They don’t call these things black swans because they’re predictable or manageable.

The best thing those of us who aren’t plugged into the elite system can do is be antifragile in either circumstance. Follow the Dave Ramsey strategy of avoiding debt and consumerism. Everyone should read this guy and incorporate at least some of what he’s saying into their life planning. Take some of your surplus and do some investing using Taleb’s barbell strategy – keep everything you actually need and then some in cash or other super safe stores of value. Use the surplus to make a number of small high risk/return bets like Bitcoin, startups, volatile stocks etc… The trick is to have a lot of irons in the fire with high enough return that justifying the risk requires only one or two of them to pan out The most important thing to worry about in the barbell is to never risk more money than you can afford to burn. Taleb was very big on emphasizing that the first thing you need to do to succeed in investing is not get ruined and that means never placing yourself in a position where you could possibly be ruined. 2008 crushed a lot of people because they mistook their home and/or 401k for “super safe” investments. Their ruin was a lot more possible than they appreciated. The basic rule that our dads told us about gambling applies – assume any money you gamble is a loss and be able to live with it or don’t make the bet.

The world of investing is really for connected Insiders with access to information or other unethical or illegal advantages. You can play around the edges of it but make sure your ass is covered nine ways to Sunday first. The average individual investor probably has better odds getting rich at the local sportsball book then they do with Charles Schwab or FOREX.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704289)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:12 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

this isn’t relevant, but it is pretty dumb. debt alone is risky, but it isn’t likely to trigger a once in a generation meltdown like we had in 08. risk (ie leverage) and uncertainty (holy shit how much of this mortgage backed garbage do banks have? what is it and what’s it worth exactly???) are different things. we’ll be fine with just the former

this is just glorified cave dweller ranting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704308)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman

So can we keep borrowing to infinity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704363)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:37 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

xoxo is a place where the aryan cognitive elite deal in nuance instead of retarded oversimplification

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704368)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: claret abode

What downsides to you see to unlimited government borrowing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704422)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

“We can borrow incrementally more” =/= “we can borrow unlimited money”

I mentioned crowding out for a reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704437)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:39 AM
Author: Swollen locus

it's something to consider, like a lot of other minor things. maybe item #103 on a list of current urgent political priorities. but these mindless fucking boomers who call in to Sean Hannity and this is their #1 FUCKING ISSUE need to be beaten with a tire iron.

immigration/demographics is the only thing that matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704380)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:41 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

this sounds like an invitation to take this thread in a direction i have 0 interest in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704383)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: Swollen locus

well, then take your shitty thread to Free Republic, you dumb kike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704385)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:43 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

immigration is a big deal to you because you’re afraid of diluting your high iq aryan stock yes?

nigga just read through this thread and others. you’ll forgive me for finding this idea pretty amusing

oh also this one: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4071613&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704388)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman

Or why don't you create your own 478th thread about demographics, Bobby?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704389)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: claret abode

You’re making the most bullish case possible for owning bitcoin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704395)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

yet another tangent i’d prefer not to kill brain cells over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704402)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:49 AM
Author: transparent psychic locale

What if the USD is no longer the reserve currency because of overborrowing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704407)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

what if aliens invade earth and kill us all tomorrow?

i talked about this in the op. the chinese own trillions in dollar denominated assets - they have as much a stake in the dollar as we do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704410)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:59 AM
Author: transparent psychic locale

Why don't we just spend a bazillion dollars a year?

You're an idiot, got it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704447)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:00 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Did everyone on this thread bomb the lsat? Lmao holy fucking shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704454)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:14 PM
Author: transparent psychic locale

So you think the whole rest of the world just won't care because at the moment they happen to be worse off?

You don't think it could turn into the entire world vs. US & Israel because we spend money willy-nilly?

What's stopping them from doing the same and just declaring they'll take care of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704481)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:23 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Listen. I’m suggesting that our car has enough gas to travel another 30 miles or so. You’re arguing as though I said we can drive from NYC to Los Angeles or something. I know xoxo is a place for morons to scream reductionist points at each other but try to refrain

The United States, China and Saudi Arabia are joined at the hip. There is no viable alternative to the US dollar as the global reserve currency. None. The euro zone is imploading - it’s closer to collapsing than challenging the dollar. Yields are dropping and the dollar is strengthening because....money still pours into the us during times of economic uncertainty.

We can borrow incrementally more money given these facts. And the debt isn’t some existential crisis - it’s not like we pay interest in another currency that could suddenly move against the dollar (like the Russian/Asian financial crises)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704508)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: transparent psychic locale

Ok yeah I get that. Obviously it's not a near-term issue, good job. You think like a Boomer.

It's a perfectly rational to be upset that the US spends billions on retarded shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704527)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: claret abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704534)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Your second point isn’t responsive to anything I said. I’m not saying we should all set money on fire like the joker dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704547)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:48 PM
Author: transparent psychic locale

When people say they are concerned about the national debt, not only are they saying we shouldn't spend as much, but they generally mean the government spends money irresponsibly and that it could be used 10000% more effectively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704621)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: lemon costumed stead blood rage

This must to be Obeezy or Bart's pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705647)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 2:53 PM
Author: Onyx Out-of-control Den Main People

China taking over isn’t that far fetched. They obviously want to be #1 world power and have vaulted from somewhere behind US, Russia, and EU countries to be #2 in most of our lifetimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705210)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 5:53 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

This is besides the point IMO. the Chinese have trillions tied up in us treasuries, real estate, stocks and bonds. If the dollar ceased to be the reserve currency, the dollar’s relative value (PPP) would tank and the Chinese would lose an ASTRONOMICAL amount of money. And the us would cease to be such a massive end market for Chinese exports

I don’t think the Chinese view national economic suicide to be a stop on the path to global superpower status. The US and China are tied together. This makes me optimistic that neither party will do something truly retarded to wreck the global economy or risk a hot war

Everyone other than the us and China are mostly irrelevant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705789)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: spectacular haunted graveyard

Why are stocks and other risk assets not increasing in value if yields are dropping like a rock?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704412)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

lol they’re not? i don’t think market activity over the last few months is a referendum on us sovereign debt capacity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704414)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: bateful juggernaut lay

Worrying over social security going "bankrupt" is a much easier tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704428)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: exciting stag film

k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704441)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:02 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

How is everyone on xoxo so stupid tho?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704460)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: Sinister principal's office

Op is wicked smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704471)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:12 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

I mean even a midget is massive compared to an ant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704477)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Actually this thread explains why the national debt remains on almost everyone’s list of top 5 issues facing the country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704487)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: aphrodisiac trailer park skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704490)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:23 PM
Author: exciting stag film

can't tell if sarcastic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704507)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: claret abode

It’s dtp/gatormo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704538)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:33 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

I’ll off myself before I ever let you people associate me with a moniker lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704554)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: claret abode

Best investments to make now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704560)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

I have no fucking idea. I’m all out of short to medium term ideas sadly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704584)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:45 PM
Author: exciting stag film

Best investments to make now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704604)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: transparent psychic locale

SHY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704653)



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Date: August 20th, 2019 12:26 PM
Author: claret abode

bummer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38714166)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:39 PM
Author: hyperactive adulterous hunting ground people who are hurt

Agree in the abstract that US should borrow MOAR, but our governments would piss it away in hilarious ways, not generate real return

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704572)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 12:41 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Almost certainly true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38704582)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 2:24 PM
Author: contagious lilac stage mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705086)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 2:16 PM
Author: unhinged useless lettuce

OP is we wuz kangs genius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705056)



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Date: August 18th, 2019 5:54 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse

Good job I’m smarter now because you posted this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#38705791)



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Date: January 30th, 2020 1:24 PM
Author: Crawly jewess meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4325635&forum_id=2#39513883)