Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President (NYT)
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Date: October 18th, 2019 8:58 AM Author: Flirting sneaky criminal double fault
If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.
By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.
Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril.
The first was a change of command ceremony for a storied Army unit in which one general officer passed authority to another. The second event was an annual gala for the Office of Strategic Services (O.S.S.) Society that recognizes past and present members of the intelligence and Special Operations community for their heroism and sacrifice to the nation. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House.
On the parade field at Fort Bragg, N.C., where tens of thousands of soldiers have marched either preparing to go to war or returning from it, the two generals, highly decorated, impeccably dressed, cleareyed and strong of character, were humbled by the moment.
They understood the awesome responsibility that the nation had placed on their shoulders. They understood that they had an obligation to serve their soldiers and their soldiers’ families. They believed in the American values for which they had been fighting for the past three decades. They had faith that these values were worth sacrificing everything for — including, if necessary, their lives.
Having served with both officers for the past 20 years, I know that they personified all that is good and decent and honorable about the American military with genuineness of their humility, their uncompromising integrity, their willingness to sacrifice all for a worthy cause, and the pride they had in their soldiers.
Later that week, at the O.S.S. Society dinner, there were films and testimonials to the valor of the men and women who had fought in Europe and the Pacific during World War II. We also celebrated the 75th anniversary of D-Day, recognizing those brave Americans and allies who sacrificed so much to fight Nazism and fascism. We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?
Also that evening we recognized the incredible sacrifice of a new generation of Americans: an Army Special Forces warrant officer who had been wounded three times, the most recent injury costing him his left leg above the knee. He was still in uniform and still serving. There was an intelligence officer, who embodied the remarkable traits of those men and women who had served in the O.S.S. And a retired Marine general, whose 40 years of service demonstrated all that was honorable about the Corps and public service.
But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria serving alongside our allies in the fight against ISIS. Her husband, a former Army Green Beret, accepted the award on her behalf. Like so many that came before her, she had answered the nation’s call and willingly put her life in harm’s way.
For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values — you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honored last week.
But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within.
These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!”
Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.
But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?
If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?
President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.
And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html
Its time for Trump to resign. He needs to spare our Republic the shame and distress of having to impeach or remove him via a military coup. The joke isn't funny anymore, Trumpkins. Time to put your big-boy pance on and do what needs to be done.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995206) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 9:06 AM Author: white filthpig
i remember when Obama left Iraq. military leaders said it was too fast and done wrong and would have consequences. the press didn't amplify that message. the ex-brass didn't write seditious op-eds. (and when Mattis wrote his recent book saying the same thing, the press ignored that and asked only that he bash Trump.)
trump pulls 200 advisers from a shithold corner we never needed to be in, and all hell breaks loose.
todays' reaction can't be based on the actual stakes in Syria, because there are almost none. the reaction is based entirely on deep state concerns.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995235) |
Date: October 18th, 2019 9:22 AM Author: Motley rose garrison
Guy is advocating for a military coup of the elected POTUS because AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL INTERVENTION IS A CHERISHED VALUE
That's the entire argument. Because Trump won't continue endless wars internationally, he should be deposed
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995274) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 9:27 AM Author: Motley rose garrison
"And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it."
How else do you read this Obeezy
How much sooner can you get from an election next year?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995289) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 10:06 AM Author: Light Fragrant Coffee Pot Meetinghouse
I am not saying Obeezy should be banned. I don’t want that.
I am saying that Drake has the ONLY cr response to deal with him, and am urging others to follow. I’m also saying that a decent amount of people already DO follow with respect to Obeezy’s sudo here, and this is why Obeezy spams under several different pumos and other accounts, in a transparently obvious manner because he uses the SAME style that you see ITT, and that others should similarly not engage with Obeezy’s other accounts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995490)
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Date: October 18th, 2019 9:32 AM Author: pale brunch
"what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese"
lmao you fucking faggot, how about we start with just securing our own border?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995309) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 10:41 AM Author: Puce fanboi theater
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3408307&mc=304&forum_id=2#31784309
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I'll be back on November 9 for blank bumping purposes, faggots.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995635)
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Date: October 18th, 2019 9:59 AM Author: Titillating territorial affirmative action
Straight from the blue print of NeoCon Project for a New American Century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Reading through when poasting this and holy shit how libs picked this up with gusto. Uncanny really.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995448) |
Date: October 18th, 2019 9:36 AM Author: Stimulating startled persian striped hyena
"But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?"
Lol yeah i sure miss our international reputation as 'the good guys' we earned before Trump by interfering with those places. This moron literally has to go back to WWII for an example of a 'successful' intervention.. he should get the death penalty for this seditious nonsense.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995327) |
Date: October 18th, 2019 9:48 AM Author: Exhilarant magical menage water buffalo
"We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?"
Interventionist openly advocating for America to be the world's policeman. No, thanks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995390) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 11:55 AM Author: Galvanic primrose ladyboy telephone
"it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered."
The above constituted 0% of the reasons the US entered WWII
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995979)
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Date: October 18th, 2019 10:20 AM Author: twisted circlehead orchestra pit
this is honestly one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read
this person is utterly insane and deeply evil in a profound way
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38995550) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 2:37 PM Author: twisted circlehead orchestra pit
bro i'm sorry it is simply not possible for me to believe that this guy is a "good person"
"It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate."
this is one of the most absurd things i have read in my entire life, not flame. even libs are not this disconnected with reality
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38996834) |
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Date: October 18th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: Stimulating startled persian striped hyena
As a defense of the US military spending our tax dollars like drunken sailors over the last 50 years with very little to show for it except dead civilians and new enemies, it might be just crazy enough to work! the endless wars must continue! Or maybe...
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Oct 12
The same people that got us into the Middle East Quicksand, 8 Trillion Dollars and many thousands of lives (and millions of lives when you count the other side), are now fighting to keep us there. Don’t listen to people that haven’t got a clue. They have proven to be inept!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38996933) |
Date: October 18th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: angry church cumskin
You know what's funny - even though I though it was bullshit all along, a very small part of me worried there could be an element of truth in his story until it turned into just more naked pro-Syrian occupation / pro Kurd propaganda.
Lol if XO were to write a parody article satirizing the NYT for being a mouthpiece of the military industrial establishment when it matters, the article would look exactly like this.
Remember the NYT was cheerleader #1 for WMD / Iraq war
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38996202) |
Date: October 18th, 2019 3:24 PM Author: dead doctorate business firm
"What will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?"
Why the fuck are we obligated to any of these people?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4365908&forum_id=2#38997059) |
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