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How did the japanese beat the chinese and so many more in WWII?

The Chinese outnumbered the japanese by like 8-1. How did th...
fatd00d
  11/07/19
The Chinese aren’t nearly as smart as people seem to t...
Oh, you travel?
  11/07/19
china was a well-fucked gangbanged mess, cum and blood leaki...
jafar
  11/07/19
Garbage man earning his pay
wait till biggus dickus hears of this
  11/07/19
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jafar
  11/07/19
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evil cslg
  11/08/19
95% of China was subsistence peasant in 1980.
:D
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SomeOtherGhost
  11/08/19
Japan beat Russia in a war in 1907 earlier too After the ...
DrakeMallard
  11/07/19
cr. in 1860 the Japanese basically fought with swords in the...
impeachment 2.0
  11/08/19
Qing Dynasty China was incredibly backwards in many ways whe...
Refunkulus
  11/07/19
chill qing dynasty is still a million times more desirable t...
tats
  11/07/19
Communism truly destroyed the mainland people
Refunkulus
  11/07/19
Communism has completely annihilated eastern Europe. It will...
tats
  11/07/19
best answer ITT
weird blob of shit from another dimension
  11/08/19
ty
Refunkulus
  11/08/19
the most recent Hardcore History episodes are about the Paci...
,...,.,,,,..,.,.,,,..,,,,,,....,.,.,.
  11/07/19
https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII/status/1192125988752244737?...
:D
  11/07/19
Japanese reaction to the surrender Edit Itagaki had met h...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  11/07/19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda After the war e...
,...,.,,,,..,.,.,,,..,,,,,,....,.,.,.
  11/08/19
yeah I've read about that guy
zoomer
  11/08/19
The Dan Carlin one?
fidelio
  11/08/19
japan was an industrialized country china wasnt
short man
  11/07/19
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SomeOtherGhost
  11/08/19
what's with all the other answers in this thread other than ...
GOY SUPERSTAR
  11/08/19
They also kicked the British (temporarily) out of East Asia ...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  11/07/19
A big share of Asia was under European colonial domination. ...
Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket
  11/07/19
Not china though. Also Filipinos were pissed because they ha...
.,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
  11/07/19
A lot of the port cities in China were or had been European-...
Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket
  11/07/19
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TRUMP rulez
  11/08/19
comfort women. see that thread about nfl players with SAHWs ...
CapTTTainFalcon
  11/07/19
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GOY SUPERSTAR
  11/08/19
China was in the middle of a civil war
zoomer
  11/08/19
xo full of MFEs on Chinese history, hmm
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  11/08/19
chink culture is bullshit/nonexistant. japs at least build ...
.,,,..,,...,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,...:..,:.::,.
  11/08/19
*lifts entire writing system from Chinese*
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  11/08/19
chinks and japs both use dumb hieroglyphics no one cares who...
.,,,..,,...,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,...:..,:.::,.
  11/08/19
Japanese culture is derived nearly entirely from Chinese cul...
Upset Jew
  11/08/19
Same reason Germany defeated all the white countries. Indust...
Upset Jew
  11/08/19
Japs didn't use many tanks at all. Infrastructure was so poo...
owl dood
  11/08/19
Still, Japan had the ability to churn stuff out quickly that...
Upset Jew
  11/08/19
China was much less developed and Chiang Kai-shek did not ev...
DeanRobbins1895
  11/08/19
If he had fought the Japanese, maybe more people would have ...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  11/08/19


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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: fatd00d

The Chinese outnumbered the japanese by like 8-1. How did the japanese succeed at such a huge level at WWII?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087807)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:35 PM
Author: Oh, you travel?

The Chinese aren’t nearly as smart as people seem to think they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087821)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: jafar (👁☀️👁)

china was a well-fucked gangbanged mess, cum and blood leaking out of every orifice, for a few decades preceding the Japanese occupation of manchuria

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087827)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:43 PM
Author: wait till biggus dickus hears of this

Garbage man earning his pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087853)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:43 PM
Author: jafar (👁☀️👁)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087856)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:05 AM
Author: evil cslg



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089306)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

95% of China was subsistence peasant in 1980.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087831)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:16 AM
Author: SomeOtherGhost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088534)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:38 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)

Japan beat Russia in a war in 1907 earlier too

After the Meiji Restoration the gov leaders sole focus was modernization and they imported as much knowledge as they could from the West to industrialize rapidly. Brought over German military guys to train their army, etc.

So they took over Manchuria pretty easily given China was technologically inferior. China was also split with Communist and Nationalist forces battling each other. Liberating Manchuria just wasn't high on the list for either faction

And yeah they didn't take over the whole country. Just the Manchuria area where the Russians had been taking into their sphere of influence

Dan Carlin's last three Hardcore History podcasts are focused on this btw. Highly recommended

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087835)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: impeachment 2.0

cr. in 1860 the Japanese basically fought with swords in the feudal style. by 1907 they whupped Russia and they were just getting going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089330)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:55 PM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

Qing Dynasty China was incredibly backwards in many ways when it came to state organization, infrastructure, population health and literacy as well as technology and it ended in 1911.

Three decades was not enough time for them to advance relative to the Japanese who had been aggressively modernizing since like 1868 or so - almost a 50 year head start. Western tech and military advisors from Europe and the US helped speed up Japanese modernization and the place was naturally predisposed to advancing quickly and cohesively because it was small and centralized in many ways in three or four major cities with a huge % of the population urbanized as well as literate, that combined with a martial culture that had wanted to conquer China for almost 400 years was a big factor that allowed the Japanese to fuck the Chinese over huge.

There was also not really a major cohesive national identity in China at that time in some ways outside of the Han majority. The Manchurian Qing Dynasty was an ethnic minority from the northern part of China that had grown decadent and weak just as their Mongolian cousins had during the Yuan dynasty. They were all addicted to opium and hunting with bows and arrows, despising modernity in many ways. Places like Tibet, Mongolia, East Turkestan were really doing their own thing.

International relations for like 1000 years in that area basically boils down to acknowledging the new emperor and sending tribute, then returning to doing your own thing. Even Southern China wasn’t really governable to a huge degree - there was a proverb “The Mountains are high and the Emperor is far away” which meant that people would do whatever they wanted as long as taxes were being paid and nominal respect was given to the Son of Heaven.

It was a sort of very “chill” unchanging Confucian society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087914)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: tats

chill qing dynasty is still a million times more desirable than the grey goo maoist trash that you have occupying that land mass right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087962)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:05 PM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

Communism truly destroyed the mainland people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087974)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: tats

Communism has completely annihilated eastern Europe. It will take centuries for them to recover.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088041)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:32 AM
Author: weird blob of shit from another dimension (that has telepathic powers)

best answer ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088317)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089059)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: ,...,.,,,,..,.,.,,,..,,,,,,....,.,.,.


the most recent Hardcore History episodes are about the Pacific war with a lot of background about Jap fanaticism. the whole series is like 10 hours long, it's a great listen so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087949)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:03 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII/status/1192125988752244737?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087958)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:19 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Japanese reaction to the surrender Edit

Itagaki had met his generals and senior staff at his HQ at the former Raffles College in Bukit Timah and told his men that they would have to obey the surrender instructions and keep the peace. That night, more than 300 officers and men killed themselves by falling onto their swords in the Raffles Hotel after a farewell sake party, and later, an entire Japanese platoon killed themselves using grenades.[18]

About 200 Japanese soldiers decided to join the communist guerrillas whom they were fighting just days before in a bid to continue the fight against the British. But they soon returned to their units when they found out that the MPAJA, which was funded by the Malayan Communist Party, did not plan to fight the returning British.[18]

Nonetheless, some stayed hidden in the jungles with the communists, and when Chin Peng and remnants of the Malayan Communist Party ended their struggle in 1989, two former Japanese soldiers emerged from the jungle with the communists and surrendered.[18]



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088048)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:02 AM
Author: ,...,.,,,,..,.,.,,,..,,,,,,....,.,.,.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

After the war ended Onoda spent 29 years hiding out in the Philippines until his former commander traveled from Japan to formally relieve him from duty by order of Emperor Shōwa in 1974.[1][2] He held the rank of second lieutenant in the Imperial Japanese Army. He was the penultimate Japanese soldier to surrender, with Teruo Nakamura surrendering later in 1974.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089280)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: zoomer (uspo)

yeah I've read about that guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089331)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: fidelio

The Dan Carlin one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089324)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: short man

japan was an industrialized country china wasnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087979)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:17 AM
Author: SomeOtherGhost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088535)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:13 AM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR

what's with all the other answers in this thread other than this one lol

china was almost entirely still a bunch of peasants during WW2, ofc they got literally and figuratively raped by industrialized japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089065)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:08 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

They also kicked the British (temporarily) out of East Asia all the way back to India which was pretty impressive too. Kicked the French and Dutch out for good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087990)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:10 PM
Author: Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket

A big share of Asia was under European colonial domination. Japan would exploit this by promising the locals "independence" and get Japan-backed "nationalist" militias set up to fight alongside them. Even today, Japan retains enormous cachet throughout the Third World as a successful non-white country that stood up against Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087999)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:19 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.


Not china though. Also Filipinos were pissed because they had recently been colonized by the US and really enjoyed it. Japan never had a firm grip on the Philippines like it did in nearby Indonesia, where there was no love for the Dutch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088047)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket

A lot of the port cities in China were or had been European-controlled. They didn't need to hold all of the interior. Flips fought a guerilla war for several years against the US in the 1890s-1900s and had a lot of J collaboration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088070)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: TRUMP rulez



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089546)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:15 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

comfort women. see that thread about nfl players with SAHWs who attended to their every carnal need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088024)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089062)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:13 AM
Author: zoomer (uspo)

China was in the middle of a civil war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089064)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (Dictated But Not Read)

xo full of MFEs on Chinese history, hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089084)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:03 AM
Author: .,,,..,,...,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,...:..,:.::,.


chink culture is bullshit/nonexistant. japs at least build their own shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089289)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:05 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

*lifts entire writing system from Chinese*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089301)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:11 AM
Author: .,,,..,,...,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,...:..,:.::,.


chinks and japs both use dumb hieroglyphics no one cares who stole what from who. both now speak and write american out of necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089336)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:13 AM
Author: Upset Jew

Japanese culture is derived nearly entirely from Chinese culture, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089342)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:06 AM
Author: Upset Jew

Same reason Germany defeated all the white countries. Industrialized base that could churn out tanks and equipment with efficiency.

You think Chinese farmers with sticks and rifles were stopping them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089309)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: owl dood

Japs didn't use many tanks at all. Infrastructure was so poor it didn't lend well to use of tanks (which Japs had only a tiny number of anyway), or even motorized infantry. Also, fuel was saved for naval and air operations. The jap war in China was remarkably low tech in that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089492)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:05 PM
Author: Upset Jew

Still, Japan had the ability to churn stuff out quickly that rural chinks just didn't have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089592)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: DeanRobbins1895

China was much less developed and Chiang Kai-shek did not even try to fight the Japanese. He knew the Americans would take care of them and that the Communists were a much bigger threat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089528)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

If he had fought the Japanese, maybe more people would have supported him. A lot of people just liked the Communists because they fought the Japanese.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089735)