https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2020/01/13/what-schizophrenia-does-families-why-mental-health-system-cant-keep-up/?arc404=true

I can paste the whole thing in if anyone wants it, but it's quite long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39450226)

Also, how was he doing w/r/t OCI/GPA? Either really good or really bad I presume? Like not just a Normal Bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39450241)

Aaron won awards for the highest grade-point average on the team and best offensive scout team player, and made the dean’s list twice. He had a girlfriend he thought he might marry. “He should have been CEO of a Forbes 500 company,” Breinig says, “or a professor at some big university.”

Instead, everything unraveled. Aaron, certain that he’d receive a coveted football scholarship for his senior year, was gutted when it went to someone else. Anita calls that “the turning point,” the moment that “broke his spirit.” That fall, he quit the team. He spent his days smoking marijuana. Soon, he began calling home with strange claims: His dorm room was bugged, or his toes were growing, or the TV was talking to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39450272)

I have a feeling he was bullshitting his mother and she believed a lot of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39451708)

Very difficult to handle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39450495)

Then essentially the fungus colonizes the brain, survival strategy of taking control, infected host then cultivates more of the plant

Probably has benefits too, human agriculture likely developed this way

Fungus could be adapted to "select" the best host. Schizos are usually huge alpha dudes, just hitting their sexual and physical prime, more influence and sway

https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/infectious-diseases/fungi/aspergillosis

Majority of people who use marijuana are not affected for whatever immune reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39450496)

Actually had a friend, a lot like Aaron, star athlete, went to CU-Boulder and did a lot of drugs. He dropped out, was living with his parents and one day he jumped in front of truck and killed himself. A lot of people blamed it on a bad acid trip, but it was schizophrenia.

Even though it was really, really sad, his brother told me that it was actually a huge relief and he felt guilty even thinking that, let alone saying it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39451225)

Since they need structure and aren't necessarily retarded, they could do a chill 9-5 WFH @ the asylum if sane enough.

btw I feel like a lot of Women could have this and no one would even notice irl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39457382)

Before the 1990s, America had a reasonably well-adapted mental health system, based primarily on asylums and institutions. Then several things changed, not least of which is an enterprising young reporter named Geraldo Rivera

did an expose on life in these institutions.

Back in the day, he was an actual investigative reporter. He exposed the horrors of the mental institutions, which led to public outcry and closures. Unfortunately, there wasn’t a more humane substitute in place, and one couldn't be afforded in any event, so these poor people were left to fend for themselves despite the majority having no means to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39457792)

The idea that the mentally ill are somehow better off institutionalized and/or medicated on Thorazine or Haldol or more is just that the mentally ill are easier to deal with if drugged and/or locked away. There is little to no evidence that anyone is actually “cured” of mental illness, only that, if sufficiently drugged, they appear more normal for periods of time (which, inevitably ends when they realize that they are drugged into oblivion). In addition, the long term effects of anti-psychotic medications aren’t pretty and effectively ruin any actual chance, no matter how slim, of functioning long term. For example, I have yet to see a study that shows schizophrenics are better off after treatment once discontinued than before. I suspect the opposite is true.

I will say, whether it is correlation or causation, everyone I know who is severely mentally ill is/was a drug user, specifically a heavy pot user. The idea that pot is completely harmless in all instances is nonsense to me.

And yes, many are homeless, but that is by choice in most instances because they do not wish to be institutionalized and drugged. They have experienced the horrors of the system and rather live on the streets. That alone is sufficient evidence that mental health treatment is a scam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39463334)

The only people in long term involuntary confinement around here are those who have committed violent crimes. Hospitals "stabilize" patients then discharge them ASAP. My older son was hospitalized under court order for 5 months then discharged with no treatment. The prosecutor and judge who sent him off were very unhappy, but there was nothing they could do, since he had spent more time in custody than the max. sentence for his offense (that's the limit in our jurisdiction). They tried to forcibly medicate him, but he pro se'd himself out of it. Unlike his brother, he is far smarter than any of the doctors and learned enough law and pharmaceutical science to defend himself.

I have seen a few cases in which the benefit of medication outweighed the side effects. My wife's nephew (schizophrenia) has been pretty stable on meds for a long time. He is able to hold a part time janitorial job and has his own apartment, but he has no social contacts beyond his immediate family. However, in his 30 year history of mental illness he has been hospitalized 14 times.

The drugs usually cut 15 years or more off lifespan. Everyone I know on psychotropic medication has experienced enormous weight gain and diabetes, plus they all smoke heavily. Schizophrenics really seem to love nicotine.

We have been criticized by many people for "enabling" our kids, but the only alternative seemed to be letting them die on the street. We stumbled into our own particular "warehousing" approach, and are lucky to be able to afford it. The talking heads on TV promote the view that mental illness is easily treated - just take a pill and you are well. Those of us who have experienced it know this is totally bogus.

I got an early warning on the marijuana involvement some time ago, but too late to help me. A good friend, who is a very famous scientist, has a son with schizophrenia. He was at the leading edge of noting the triggering effect of weed in mental illness, but by the time he knew of the relationship it was too late for either of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39470206)

2. What Clique were they in in School?

3. Were they Normal before trying weed?

—cowgod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39472708)

2. #1 Jock; #2 Loser

3. Seemingly normal before weed, but conditions did not manifest for several years following first use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39472732)

that's amazing that's the conventional wisdom among doctors and talking heads if you assume what you say is true (which i have no reason to doubt), and if you accept that the conventional anti-depressant and anti-anxiety medications (most of the "mentally ill" are (mal?)adaptively depressed, anxious, or both) don't work very well for very many patients (as seems to be indicated by all the rigorous, broadly focused literature i've seen).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39472724)

LOL at women. Yeah, this guy's huge flaws were actually his selling point!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4424394&forum_id=2#39463198)