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How long will it take the stock market to recover?
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:09 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch 2-3 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824848) |
Date: March 21st, 2020 12:10 PM Author: vibrant plum philosopher-king temple http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4479713&mc=19&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824859) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:12 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Based on that chart, it looks like it's infinitely headed towards 0, so I guess the answer is never. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824877) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:10 PM Author: pearly startled community account Hopefully long enough to to dump a bunch of money into this fucking pit first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824861) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:11 PM Author: cordovan embarrassed to the bone parlor mexican If this is contained by summer, then 2-3 years seems fair. If this continues until next spring, including massive layoffs, very high unemployment, and industry failures, lol at the 2020s in their entirety |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:13 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch So dump my remaining stocks on Monday? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824890) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:14 PM Author: Glittery adulterous boistinker julia doesn't know anything. no one knows anything. no one can predict the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824899) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:15 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch If it takes as long as even a year, I'm dumping my stocks on Monday. I check the stock market daily, so I can just buy back in later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824903) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:22 PM Author: Flirting Alcoholic Twinkling Uncleanness Sell low, buy high (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824949) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch I already dumped some at 2300 Dow
Bought some inverse ETFs
Going to dump the rest on Monday |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Glittery adulterous boistinker good luck! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824963) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:12 PM Author: mahogany motley scourge upon the earth If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never. Under any circumstances, putting an irresponsible, ignorant man who takes his advice from all the wrong people in charge of the nation with the world’s most important economy would be very bad news. What makes it especially bad right now, however, is the fundamentally fragile state much of the world is still in, eight years after the great financial crisis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824884) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:15 PM Author: talking prole menage This is peak trump derangement syndrome
My answer is late Q2/early Q3 2020. The market will recover well before things revert to normalcy |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:17 PM Author: Supple gaming laptop how about an elderly man w/ dementia who is otherwise objectively stupid in his healthiest of days and a vp to support him based on such important criteria as must: (i) have no penis, (ii) be an ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824910) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: Carnelian exciting indirect expression yes he already noted that Trump sucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824941) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Supple gaming laptop (ape clitlib w poor grasp of english and reality) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824966) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:25 PM Author: Amber fear-inspiring son of senegal lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824976) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:13 PM Author: Appetizing genital piercing Ah yes, the economy will NEVER recover bc of DRUMPF! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825325) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 6:22 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle underhanded institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827860) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 6:24 PM Author: vibrant plum philosopher-king temple But enough about obama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827870) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:14 PM Author: disgusting locale No one can tell you. No one knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824894) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:14 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Exeunt might (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824896) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:15 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Probably 1 year for the market to recover in general. However, certain blue chip stocks will recover in 3-6 months (Apple, Google, Microsoft, Visa, Mastercard, etc). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824901) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Why would Apple recover when people don't have money/jobs to afford $1000 phones?
Apple solely produces very expensive, luxury products. The other companies at least have some utility. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Investors are forward looking, and more forward looking that a few months.
People investing in Apple are likely looking to hold for a least 1-2 years, not 1-2 months. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Apple is fucked for the next few years IMO
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew lol no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824959) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:26 PM Author: Amber fear-inspiring son of senegal Remote classrooms/learning is a boondoggle for Apple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824979) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:26 PM Author: talking prole menage Google “5g Apple” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824984) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:34 PM Author: salmon nofapping reading party LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825033) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:22 PM Author: Maize Black Woman Range Most of the tech blue chips are holding up pretty well. Oil and travel related stocks are taking it in the ass and bringing the overall Jew number down.
Anyway, I think it’s either a face-ripping V recovery when we realize it’s fraudvirus or a years long slog like the depression if it’s legit. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:19 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Just as a reference, the market fully recovered from the trade war shenanigans within 3-4 months.
Things bottomed out in mid December, and by mid March, everything was back at the highs. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch The market didn't react like this w/r/t to the trade wars, not even close.
This is closer to 2008. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew All that's going on now is pure panic due to uncertainty. Once there's more clarity, things will bounce back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824940) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch The clarity like high unemployment rates exceeding 25%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824948) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:22 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew That's temporary. I can tell you're in serious panic mode. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824956) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: curious preventive strike It's not. Most of those people will never find work again. Industries are being permanently destroyed and will not come back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824962) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:24 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824970) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:26 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Dude, just sell everything and sit in cash for life. You're an absolute mess right now lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824983) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:29 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Sell and buy inverse ETFs, bonds, CDs, or invest in crypto
Lots of things you can do besides hold like a cuck |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:33 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew It all depends on time horizon. If you're holding stocks for which you won't need the cash for 20+ years, doing all those gymnastics is pointless.
However, if you will likely need the cash to pay bills in the near future, then yes, you should be doing as much to mitigate the damage. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:34 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch with online trading, it takes literally 2 minutes to buy and sell with no fees whatsoever.
so why not sell and buy? considering how much we talk about stocks on here, I assume everyone checks it at least daily. The only consideration is getting taxed on gains in that tax year, but you can always offset with losses anyway |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:38 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew It's pointless AND there's no guarantee that your thesis will be correct. If you're holding stocks for retirement in 25 years, there's no point in doing all these gymnastics.
Just buy great companies and hold. If the market drops further, buy more and average down. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:39 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch I actually enjoy looking at this stuff.
There's very little "gymnastics" involved because it's not work and requires less than 5 minutes a day. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:41 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew You don't know if your thesis will be correct. If you sell out completely, and a treatment is announced 2 days later that results in the Dow going up 5000 points, you just lost.
If it's cash you won't be needing, it's better to stay put and simply buy more if it continues to drop. The method you're talking about is for people who may need to tap their accounts and can't afford any near term losses.
If you're not retiring for 25 years, all that really matters is what the balance is in 2045. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:46 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Lol @ a treatment being announced in 2 months
I am about 50-50 right now (50 cash-50 equities). If I buy back in when the dow jumps 5k, then so bet it. I'd rather minimize my losses than maximize my gains.
Also I have crypto gains that I need to offset this year as i'm actively trading, so it's helpful if I do some tax loss harvesting. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:49 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Simply holding has always worked out for me. If you're in the right stocks, you'll have some short term paper losses, but will be perfectly fine within 6-9 months.
During the trade war in late 2018, Apple went from $225 down to $148, but then was up to $325 1 year later. Had you just held, you would've been fine.
I suspect your issue is that you don't have much confidence in whatever stocks you're holding and fear they won't be able to weather the storm. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:57 PM Author: Mustard Thriller Rehab "Simply holding has always worked out for me."
(35 year old) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:59 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch The only stocks I have now are Walmart (doing fine) and Alibaba. I sold my Visa stock at 180.
I mainly just invest in index funds, which are tanking with the market. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:02 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Visa will likely skyrocket back to $200+ once this gets resolved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825259) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:04 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch I can buy back in when it hits 120 then. Apparently it is at 146 now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825272) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:11 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew If you have a legit system in place that is backtested then what you're doing is fine. However, most people try to do what you're doing with no real system in place which is why most who try to daytrade during times like this run into problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825315) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:25 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch At this point i have some runway since i doubt visa will go up 35 bucks in a day and unlikely the dow will jump to 2300 in a day.
As long as you have some runway and check daily, it should work.
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:47 PM Author: Mustard Thriller Rehab (Japanese guy in 1990) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825133) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:47 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825139) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:27 PM Author: disgusting locale ? which industry is being permanently destroyed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824990) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:27 PM Author: Amber fear-inspiring son of senegal Just like China? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824993) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 7:21 PM Author: Diverse Saffron Gay Wizard Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39828302) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: talking prole menage Even that recovery started late 2009
Markets are forward looking and the economy was in good shape prior to the virus. It’ll revert at the first sign of hope imo, powered by all the liquidity the fed is giving us |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:22 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch It took 5-6 years to get to back to pre-2008 crash levels (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824952) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Not for good stocks. As soon as good stocks reach a certain low, they'll be snatched up immediately by long term investors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824964) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:24 PM Author: talking prole menage Yes when the fed really, really started QE....like they’re doing now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824967) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:20 PM Author: curious preventive strike The stock market will never recover. Unemployment will exceed 60%, there will be massive civil unrest. Countless firms will fail, including most of the Fortune 500. Cities will burn and millions will die.
COVID-19 was a plot to destroy the United States, and it worked. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:26 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch It will recover at some point, but it could take years and years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824987) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:21 PM Author: bateful idiot in the great recession the market didnt get back to its all time high that it hit in 2007 until 2013... six fucking years
this maybe wldnt be as long if they find a vaccine for this shit, cause the underlying finance issues arent as severe but the problem is no one knows how long this shit will last |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:26 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Jurisdictions might impose 6+ months worth of quarantines...meaning lots of businesses will go bankrupt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824981) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:27 PM Author: bateful idiot sure but we'll see if all the big banks and financial institutions hold up
if small businesses go under thats bad but i dont think its as bad as a huge bank |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:28 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825001) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:28 PM Author: talking prole menage What makes you think banks are anything other than massively (over) capitalized? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825006) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:38 PM Author: bateful idiot most US big businesses are fraud and lies but even with the stupidity of the US govt i cant imagine they wld be dumb enough to let a huge financial institution even come close to going under even in this shitty economy but who knows (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825069) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:27 PM Author: talking prole menage Lololol
“Jurisdictions” only have so much control over people. No elected official would be the face of such a measure |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:22 PM Author: Stimulating bawdyhouse Recover as in reach prior highs - maybe a couple of years
There is still another 15-20% more to go before there is too much pressure on Trump to reopen economy |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:24 PM Author: Charcoal turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39824968) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:29 PM Author: Spectacular Glassy Step-uncle's House Cuckoldry Depends on stimulus and how effective it is
At this point everyone knows virus is fraud, but the damage is done and showboating retards like Cuomo and Newsom would rather put is into recession than act rationally
IF we get a huge stimulus (like 2+ trillion currently rumored) it could be back by a couple quarters. If we get weak McConnell cuck stimulus, could be years. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:11 PM Author: avocado incel everyone thinks it bad outside of xoxo. someone FREAKED OUT on me yesterday for suggesting that it won't be as bad as people think. full panic has set in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825316) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:35 PM Author: Arousing effete theater stage messiness 6 months to 2 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825044) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:37 PM Author: Iridescent Native Regret *scans thread for exeunt* *no exeunt* *sees Julia*
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:38 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Fwiw, exeunt sold back in Jan/Feb and is NOT buying in right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825059) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:38 PM Author: Arousing effete theater stage messiness link to the not buying part? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825064) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:42 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4480632&forum_id=2#39817416
You guys really need to pay more attention
Exeunt has said he isn't buying in and he sold months ago, yet you all keep buying in like fucking morons |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:51 PM Author: Iridescent Native Regret Thinks he's been saying he's waiting until clear signs of recovery, and that's not gonna happen with the coming headlines of "entire country in lockdown" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825171) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:52 PM Author: Passionate Learning Disabled Brunch Yeah, lockdown has only started in certain areas and not everywhere yet
We'll see how it unfolds.... |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:54 PM Author: Arousing effete theater stage messiness ive been wading through all the shit on this crappy website looking for his magic advice. its a tough job. we should make a summary thread of his thoughts and musings, could make us all rich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825201) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:38 PM Author: Arousing effete theater stage messiness *zips back up* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825062) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:39 PM Author: Crawly fantasy-prone death wish if hyrdroxychloroquine works, then 2 weeks. If not, the 2Q economic data will bring the market down another 25% before it starts to recover and it will be 2 years until back to 2018 levels
i'm buying whenever i have cash come in now |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:47 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew Economic data is already priced in. The Dow is down 10k in 3 weeks because investors are already anticipating terrible economic data. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825137) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 12:53 PM Author: Laughsome office Not just a couple or bad quarters. Pricing bakes that in plus some meaningful possibility of a few bad years/bankruptcies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825185) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:14 PM Author: Crawly fantasy-prone death wish you think when we get horrible economic data and uncertain forecast the market will shrug it off?
every time i've ever heard someone say "it's already priced in" they've been wrong
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:16 PM Author: Ruby blathering jew It's already been concluded that the numbers will be terrible. When the numbers come out, it won't be some kind of surprise.
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:22 PM Author: Crawly fantasy-prone death wish i'll bump this thread in a week or two to see who's right.
unless the hydroxy thing works, then all bets are off |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:02 PM Author: mahogany motley scourge upon the earth We need some resolution on the oil war as well before there is a real recovery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825254) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:01 PM Author: Mustard Thriller Rehab The fraud virus is causing a fraud recession imo, which means the recovery time may be less than people are expecting.. It's disproportionately affecting service industry Stacys/Losers who don't add actual economic value. The system already has enough slack built into it to absorb a large amount of dead weight imo, as evidenced by the last few years of stock market returns vs. abysmal labour force participation. People not spending money for a few months has obvious knock-on effects but people should perhaps bear in mind that entire countries in Europe basically shut down every fuckin' August and it doesn't affect anything because it's prithed in. What really matters imo is whether this will in some way lead to the popping of one or all of the constituent parts of the Everything Bubble. Otherwise, from an economic standpoint, this is just another event that will screw up the already ignominious lives of Losers, and perhaps cause "lawyers" with subpar phenotypes to be Lathamed. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:05 PM Author: Bipolar potus If it goes on too long, the car loan bubble will be the first to pop, then credit cards, then mortgages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825276) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:10 PM Author: Mustard Thriller Rehab These bubbles are seemingly constantly getting bigger and it doesn't appear to matter. Inflation would actually help proles with this sort of thing. People have become pussies about bubbles popping or anything changing in the economy e.g. tariffs.... thinking anything/everything could spread some kind of vague "contagion" that will ruin everything.
Car loans are an easy one - the bubble pops and the car gets easily repossessed and resold to another prole. They are literally on wheels, you can just tow them and resell them. The fact that car companies are shutting down production and people aren't buying new cars should keep used car values high, so they'd be reselling at a decent enough markup. The bad loan doesn't matter and if the prole is properly upside-down, they've probably been paying into gap insurance as well.... It's nothing like a foreclosure where it takes months or longer to unfold. |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 1:14 PM Author: naked gas station There's no reason the stock market should go up 20% a year other than to allow boomers to cash out at all time highs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39825336) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 5:22 PM Author: aphrodisiac degenerate love of her life Assuming it bottoms at 15k and we enjoy 10 percent annual returns starting in 2021, around the year 2026. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827408) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 5:29 PM Author: Mustard Thriller Rehab Fraud virus = fraud recession imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827453) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 6:07 PM Author: Judgmental pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827732) |
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Date: March 21st, 2020 6:14 PM Author: harsh business firm blood rage 50 yrs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4481867&forum_id=2#39827797) |