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WSJ: Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say? (link)

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gibberish
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old news http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=448657...
invoke the "p"
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Non sequitur
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ljl wtf does this mean? either way its the same shit basical...
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(retard)
invoke the "p"
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WSJ is fucking retard
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the other poasters are right to laugh at you. this is paste...
Sotomayor McCheese
  03/26/20
(paragon of patience)
invoke the "p"
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You sound like a really smart guy
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,
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How about you do this math - how many Nigerians just died fr...
borders
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Orders of magnitude fewer than the amount that will die due ...
Leftism is a mental disease
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And specifically, with limited testing which acts as soft th...
borders
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Also note that the infected people that present with coronav...
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This assumes that you are able to track all corona related d...
Rudolph
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Given the attention given to this virus right now, I would s...
Guy Debord
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poa
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false positive rate is the only question here
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I said that in the other thread on this. We need random...
Drunkard
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The aged and the sick rely on caregivers. Good luck relying ...
china is asshole!
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lol at your insane faggot asshole spewing this shit out at 3...
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To an extent, but a) nbd if fpr relatively stable /consisten...
borders
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WSJ: We are extremely nervous about goyim making minimum wag...
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Die4TheDow
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indeed...in fact, most americans would be better off saving ...
BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART
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THERE MUST BE SO MANY UNINFECTED PEOPLE, I SWEAR THEY ARE HE...
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You clearly either didn't read the article carefully or don'...
borders
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so now the wsj finally publishes what many here have been sa...
BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART
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PBS had a lengthy interview with a guy making this case yest...
0.002377 Percent of Americans Are Dead
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again, the upper crust of the media..their audience can gras...
BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART
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Thanks Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya! And extra thanks t...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
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Why does any of this matter when even a modest number of cri...
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a somewhat decent point there
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Walter
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this i agree with. but that just suggests we can ease the lo...
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This is a fantasy I think some of us believed a couple of we...
J-J-J-JULIA!
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I don't think it's fantasy. The stuff we need (beds, space, ...
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lol. do you think we don't have enough hospitals in our coun...
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This is a good example of a dipshit "liberal" extr...
goyard
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could have stopped after liberal, or even dipshit
Non sequitur
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Who cares?
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gibberish
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We also need to consider health care workers falling sick wh...
china is asshole!
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are you retarded? not one hospital is overwhelmed and if the...
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Walrus
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(Not a hospital admin masterman)
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"Would you leave your house if you knew that you wouldn...
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goyard
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It's simple, we triage out anyone over 65 who tests positive...
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
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The proper question is not whether I will have medical care ...
poa
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If you believe New York then a bunch of people under 45 have...
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Whats the ICU rate for under 45? Death rate is 0.067% but...
DrakeMallard
  03/26/20
when will we know if these dudes were right?
Die4TheDow
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similar logic to window washers at red lights make six figur...
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cr u have to take into account the cost of the washing fluid
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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:21 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,


https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.

Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate—2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others. So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.

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The latter rate is misleading because of selection bias in testing. The degree of bias is uncertain because available data are limited. But it could make the difference between an epidemic that kills 20,000 and one that kills two million. If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far.

Population samples from China, Italy, Iceland and the U.S. provide relevant evidence. On or around Jan. 31, countries sent planes to evacuate citizens from Wuhan, China. When those planes landed, the passengers were tested for Covid-19 and quarantined. After 14 days, the percentage who tested positive was 0.9%. If this was the prevalence in the greater Wuhan area on Jan. 31, then, with a population of about 20 million, greater Wuhan had 178,000 infections, about 30-fold more than the number of reported cases. The fatality rate, then, would be at least 10-fold lower than estimates based on reported cases.

Next, the northeastern Italian town of Vò, near the provincial capital of Padua. On March 6, all 3,300 people of Vò were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%. Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%.

In Iceland, deCode Genetics is working with the government to perform widespread testing. In a sample of nearly 2,000 entirely asymptomatic people, researchers estimated disease prevalence of just over 1%. Iceland’s first case was reported on Feb. 28, weeks behind the U.S. It’s plausible that the proportion of the U.S. population that has been infected is double, triple or even 10 times as high as the estimates from Iceland. That also implies a dramatically lower fatality rate.

The best (albeit very weak) evidence in the U.S. comes from the National Basketball Association. Between March 11 and 19, a substantial number of NBA players and teams received testing. By March 19, 10 out of 450 rostered players were positive. Since not everyone was tested, that represents a lower bound on the prevalence of 2.2%. The NBA isn’t a representative population, and contact among players might have facilitated transmission. But if we extend that lower-bound assumption to cities with NBA teams (population 45 million), we get at least 990,000 infections in the U.S. The number of cases reported on March 19 in the U.S. was 13,677, more than 72-fold lower. These numbers imply a fatality rate from Covid-19 orders of magnitude smaller than it appears.

How can we reconcile these estimates with the epidemiological models? First, the test used to identify cases doesn’t catch people who were infected and recovered. Second, testing rates were woefully low for a long time and typically reserved for the severely ill. Together, these facts imply that the confirmed cases are likely orders of magnitude less than the true number of infections. Epidemiological modelers haven’t adequately adapted their estimates to account for these factors.

The epidemic started in China sometime in November or December. The first confirmed U.S. cases included a person who traveled from Wuhan on Jan. 15, and it is likely that the virus entered before that: Tens of thousands of people traveled from Wuhan to the U.S. in December. Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that’s a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.

This does not make Covid-19 a nonissue. The daily reports from Italy and across the U.S. show real struggles and overwhelmed health systems. But a 20,000- or 40,000-death epidemic is a far less severe problem than one that kills two million. Given the enormous consequences of decisions around Covid-19 response, getting clear data to guide decisions now is critical. We don’t know the true infection rate in the U.S. Antibody testing of representative samples to measure disease prevalence (including the recovered) is crucial. Nearly every day a new lab gets approval for antibody testing, so population testing using this technology is now feasible.

If we’re right about the limited scale of the epidemic, then measures focused on older populations and hospitals are sensible. Elective procedures will need to be rescheduled. Hospital resources will need to be reallocated to care for critically ill patients. Triage will need to improve. And policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions.

A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns.

Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya are professors of medicine at Stanford. Neeraj Sood contributed to this article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865466)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:31 AM
Author: gibberish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865523)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:32 AM
Author: invoke the "p"

old news

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4486572&mc=91&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865527)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:06 AM
Author: Non sequitur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867309)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:34 AM
Author: ...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,.


ljl wtf does this mean? either way its the same shit basically

The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865538)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:35 AM
Author: invoke the "p"

(retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865542)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:35 AM
Author: ...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,.


WSJ is fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865546)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:53 AM
Author: Sotomayor McCheese

the other poasters are right to laugh at you. this is paste-eating level shit. however, since i am patient and enjoy teaching i will explain it to you like you're a retarded toddler.

let's say that 100 people get the virus. those are the infected. out of those, 90 have mild or no symptoms, so they don't get tested. the other 10 do, and are identified positive cases. out of those, 1 dies. what's the death rate of coronavirus? if you look at deaths/identified positive cases, it appears to be 10% - 1 in 10. however, it's really 1/100 infected - 1%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865607)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 1:54 AM
Author: invoke the "p"

(paragon of patience)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865609)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 2:28 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,


You sound like a really smart guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865737)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 4:44 AM
Author: borders

How about you do this math - how many Nigerians just died from your poast after minimizing this situation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865916)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:21 AM
Author: Leftism is a mental disease

Orders of magnitude fewer than the amount that will die due to the global depression

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866618)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 5:06 AM
Author: borders

And specifically, with limited testing which acts as soft thresholding operator on mild symptomatic patients, i.e. likelihood of receiving test increases with severity of symptoms, even if deaths underestimated, they will be underestimated to a relatively lesser degree than mild / non symptomatic people......

Amazing people don't understand that your willingness and incentive to seek treatment and therefore possibly be tested increases with symptom severity and vice a versa......

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865937)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 8:04 AM
Author: .....,,.....,,.....,,.................,,,


Also note that the infected people that present with coronavirus in the ER aren’t a random sample of the general population. So they’re way more likely to die than the average person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866190)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:23 AM
Author: Rudolph

This assumes that you are able to track all corona related deaths accurately. We haven't and we won't. So, the mortality rate number will likely never be known accurately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866628)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:08 AM
Author: Guy Debord

Given the attention given to this virus right now, I would say the number of corona deaths is actually more accurate than those recorded in any recent epidemic. Is this the next play by panicbros if the predicted millions of deaths don't occur? That they were right, we just didn't count correctly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867324)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:21 AM
Author: poa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867441)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:07 AM
Author: ._._._._.._._._._.._._._._.._._._._. (i)


false positive rate is the only question here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865788)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:18 AM
Author: Drunkard (🥃)

I said that in the other thread on this.

We need random sampling now, including an antibody test. We need to know better what we are dealing with. And last month. I have to believe China has data.

There is (almost) no model or math that I can conceive where this actually works out. Even if you drag it out over years you top capacity. The famous graph with the line in it, well the line is about 1/4 of the way up on the curve not on the top.

This leaves the only option to be a combination of tactics to minimize damage.

1. Lock down for a very long time for the olds and vulnerable.

2. Extensive social distancing/travel bans etc.

3. Massive increase in capacity.

4. Universal testing/PPE with early treatment for those infected.

LOL at the federalized and GC cucked US ever being able to do any of this effectively.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865797)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:39 AM
Author: china is asshole!

The aged and the sick rely on caregivers. Good luck relying on lowly paid wageworkers not to infect the old and the sick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866717)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: .,,..,,.,.,:;,..::,,....,:,...,:,,..:.,:.:,.


lol at your insane faggot asshole spewing this shit out at 3am. get fucking help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39869575)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 4:47 AM
Author: borders

To an extent, but a) nbd if fpr relatively stable /consistent, b/c b) any marginal degree of overestimating cases from false positives will be overwhelmingly washed out by the selection bias into testing in the first place....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865919)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:12 AM
Author: :::;;::;:;;;;::::;;;::;;;;;


WSJ: We are extremely nervous about goyim making minimum wage realizing they are better off simply rebelling than accepting their shit existence as hospitality workers and waiters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865794)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 4:39 AM
Author: Die4TheDow



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865903)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 5:35 AM
Author: BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART

indeed...in fact, most americans would be better off saving a little money and moving to the third world...the only thing that stops them is leaving relatives behind...and the fact that the american govt uses its influence to force third world nations to use visa laws to stop americans from moving to the cheap lifestyle of the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865969)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:21 AM
Author: ._._._._.._._._._.._._._._.._._._._. (i)


THERE MUST BE SO MANY UNINFECTED PEOPLE, I SWEAR THEY ARE HERE. THEY ARE INFECTED AND OKAY, WE PROMISE, CHECK OUT THESE SAMPLES, THE SAMPLES ARE SO RAW AND FRESH AND N = 100 AND WE ARE REALLY REALLY SURE THAT THE DEATH RATE IS SO MUCH LOWER.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865800)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 5:02 AM
Author: borders

You clearly either didn't read the article carefully or don't understand selection bias, specifically how strong this mechanism is in this kind of situation where the only people who will seek medical treatment and therefore possibly be tested are those who have severe enough symptoms to do so (seek treatment), and how the degree of bias will track with severity of symptoms when testing is limited, b/c the most severe cases are both the most likely to die, but also the most likely to meet the criteria for receiving a test over last few weeks / months. OTOH - the selection bias on the margin of symptoms is relatively less severe b/c as symptoms drop off in severity so will the likelihood of having met criteria for receiving test.

This means that even if we're slightly underestimating deaths, we're tracking them with relatively higher precision than active cases that will recover / have recovered, and the lesser the severity in symptoms the more there will be underestimation, due to testing limitations soft thresholding less severe patients who didn't meet criteria, or asymptomatic / such mild symptomatic people that didn't even have symptoms bad enough to drive them to seek medical help.

This is fundamental concept in statistics that's always in place in this situation - so it's odd someone would be suddenly skeptical that this mechanism isn't in place here? Any ideas as to why that may be.....? Or are you simply arguing with the precise degree of bias?

I suggest you wikipedia "selection bias in observational data" , and think about whether conducting a survey on people's attitudes about fast food in front of a chick fil a is a representative sample of the population's attitudes , or whether there's selection bias into what sort of people are more likely to be offered this survey......

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865932)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 5:29 AM
Author: BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART

so now the wsj finally publishes what many here have been saying for weeks...but the true mainstream media will not likely give this idea much coverage...for one, their audience cannot understand it...and I think now the momentum is too strong to overcome...

the upshot here? IQ MATTERS...education matters...

....but here comes the wave of counter-propaganda....well, there already is a wave of counter propaganda, but now that wave will be better informed...but will it matter? And how long will it take to matter?

so what does this mean for the stock market? Most of the traders can understand this issue...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39865961)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 7:50 AM
Author: 0.002377 Percent of Americans Are Dead (From Coronavirus)

PBS had a lengthy interview with a guy making this case yesterday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866159)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 8:19 AM
Author: BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART

again, the upper crust of the media..their audience can grasp this ...but could normies? So it will be quite some time before this counter propaganda gets widely disseminated...well, I hope it takes some time...we need to fully crash this ponzi scheme economy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866241)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 7:44 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (Dictated But Not Read)

Thanks Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya! And extra thanks to Mrs Sood for her help!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866148)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 8:16 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.


Why does any of this matter when even a modest number of critical infections is overwhelming health care systems around the country? We can’t have our hospitals overflowing with dead and infected bodies for months preventing them from serving other ill or injured people. Would you leave your house if you knew that you wouldn’t have a guarantee of timely medical care in the event you or your kid needed it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866232)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 8:20 AM
Author: BOOMER HOURS SHOPPER FILLING HIS CART

a somewhat decent point there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866242)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 12:32 PM
Author: Walter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39868067)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:13 AM
Author: .....,,.....,,.....,,.................,,,


this i agree with. but that just suggests we can ease the lockdowns once the country builds up enough healthcare capacity to handle more patients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866564)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:23 AM
Author: J-J-J-JULIA!

This is a fantasy I think some of us believed a couple of weeks ago.

There's no way we will quickly build enough critical capacity to avoid overflowing hospitals.

We will get mini-collapses in a few metro areas. Hopefully, the peaks hit quickly and densely enough that prolonged collapses are avoided.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866629)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

I don't think it's fantasy. The stuff we need (beds, space, ppe, respirators) doesn't require some complicated laboratory or manufacturing process. It's a problem of political will and we're finally getting all resources focused on the problem. It's definitely manageable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867299)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:23 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867456)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:07 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.


lol. do you think we don't have enough hospitals in our country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867321)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:50 AM
Author: goyard

This is a good example of a dipshit "liberal" extremely confident about making shit up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867677)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: Non sequitur

could have stopped after liberal, or even dipshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867833)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 3:37 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,


Who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39869562)



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Date: March 27th, 2020 9:30 AM
Author: gibberish

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39874806)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 9:42 AM
Author: china is asshole!

We also need to consider health care workers falling sick while delivering care, which has been happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39866746)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:06 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.


are you retarded? not one hospital is overwhelmed and if they are we have literally tens of thousands we could helicopter them to. what's your IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867306)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:07 AM
Author: Walrus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867320)



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Date: March 27th, 2020 7:52 AM
Author: MisterPartner

(Not a hospital admin masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39874384)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:14 AM
Author: Belisarius

"Would you leave your house if you knew that you wouldn’t have a guarantee of timely medical care in the event you or your kid needed it?"

Yes. We all do this every day. You get into an accident driving down I-95 in BFE Virginia, there is no guarantee of timely medical care in the event you need it. Yet we all take the risk and operate our vehicles in areas nowhere near hospitals with that knowledge.

People have been leaving their house without guarantee of timely medical care for thousands of years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867383)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:17 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867405)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:17 AM
Author: Walrus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867415)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:22 AM
Author: poa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867452)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: Guy Debord



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867548)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:51 AM
Author: goyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867698)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:20 AM
Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong

It's simple, we triage out anyone over 65 who tests positive for COVID-19. Sorry, luck wasn't on your side this go around. Give them the option of Fentanyl and going to sleep forever, or sending them off to quarantine and taking a chance they live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867433)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 11:26 AM
Author: poa

The proper question is not whether I will have medical care available. The proper question is whether the environment outside is such that I will need medical care to begin with. The risk to young healthy people is near zero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39867484)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 5:40 PM
Author: .....,,.....,,.....,,.................,,,


If you believe New York then a bunch of people under 45 have needed hospitalization

I agree this virus is overrated trash. But if it will trigger a real influx of people in icus beyond what the system can handle, this really is a material issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39870462)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 7:21 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)

Whats the ICU rate for under 45?

Death rate is 0.067% but havent seen ICU rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39871206)



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Date: March 26th, 2020 7:35 PM
Author: Die4TheDow

when will we know if these dudes were right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39871304)



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Date: March 27th, 2020 12:20 AM
Author: aktp (🚫🌶️🔥🚫 🅰️ 🇸 🇰 🅰️ ✌️ 🚫🌶️🔥🚫)

similar logic to window washers at red lights make six figures because they're making $1 per red light, 60 red lights / hour (i mean: very bad logic)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39873233)



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Date: March 27th, 2020 7:35 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (Dictated But Not Read)

cr u have to take into account the cost of the washing fluid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39874338)



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Date: March 27th, 2020 4:07 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,..,.,:,,:,,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487853&forum_id=2#39877791)