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Christians: how do you make sense of the concept of HELL

do you really think it’s fair for someone to spend ETE...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Who said anything was supposed to be fair?
Coral internal respiration property
  05/22/20
Hell is where you go if you don’t accept Christ as you...
boyish point
  05/22/20
Do you believe in limbo, gehenna etc.?
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
Nah
boyish point
  05/22/20
What happens to unbaptized babies and pre-christian righteou...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
christians should remain agnostic on these things, but it's ...
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
Dante had no problem telling us who was where. Just hard to ...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
Dante is not the divine word
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
No shit. Pretty smart and pious dude tho. There is nothing w...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
yeah i agree
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
"it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to ...
comical mexican rigor
  05/22/20
these kinds of rebuttals are valid and why it is best for Ch...
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
Babies are fine because they never reached a decision point ...
boyish point
  05/22/20
So they’re all with the murderers ? Doesn’t seem...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
There is no fair/unfair before God
boyish point
  05/22/20
I didn’t say fair. I said just. Are you saying God is ...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
God is just only in his punishment of the wicked. Our sin ag...
boyish point
  05/22/20
This is so retarded
Ruby hairraiser set
  05/22/20
What does "infinite goodness" mean and how does it...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/22/20
hello and welcome to the thread
boyish point
  05/22/20
I await your answer to my question.
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
ask god shitlib i dont make the rules
boyish point
  05/23/20
unless they are part of the elect, than you betta BELEE thos...
Histrionic Area
  05/22/20
A baby can’t sin
boyish point
  05/22/20
Babies are perfect in their love and worship of God? Lol no,...
Histrionic Area
  05/22/20
yeah i might actually revise my take here. sounded wrong imm...
boyish point
  05/22/20
CR I appreciate the logical consistency
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
lol why are Christians reproducing if they actually believe ...
bistre cuckoldry
  05/23/20
limbo was debunked in vatican II i thought
Massive Odious Clown Useless Brakes
  05/22/20
Stop listening to jews
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
nah, catholic school specifically said limbo was bullshit (i...
Massive Odious Clown Useless Brakes
  05/22/20
you don’t think that’s a bit fucked up and far f...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Catholics have this covered https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
lol ok. what is the point in proselytizing then?
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Heaven is still better. They just aren’t treated the S...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
what? I’m asking what the point in proselytizing is if...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Where does it say they can go to Heaven? It just says they a...
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
because as Christians you have a positive command to do that...
Federal motley range
  05/22/20
Wouldn't it have made more sense for Christians to not tell ...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/22/20
Lol wtf? Imagine life on earth without knowing christ
anal hall
  05/23/20
Plenty of non-Christians live happy lives, bro. And even if ...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
Imagine thinking being "happy" is adequate consola...
anal hall
  05/23/20
...
boyish point
  05/23/20
What the father does with unconverted souls is not something...
boyish point
  05/22/20
ok so you don’t have a good answer apart from faith. g...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
I think you’re confusing faith and experience. If you ...
boyish point
  05/22/20
lol
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
I am deranged just like most other poasters but I don’...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Again not understanding why you think you can reason your wa...
boyish point
  05/22/20
Not convincing
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
not really trying to convince you here hoss
boyish point
  05/22/20
not saying you are joss. just commenting that I don’t ...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
you write like you think like a 19 year old
boyish point
  05/22/20
you write like you don’t think very much at all. not o...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
anyone who thinks that the path to god is through argumentat...
boyish point
  05/22/20
lol where did I suggest that you fucking retard
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
It's all over this thread. its obvious that you're immature ...
boyish point
  05/22/20
My life is perfectly fine. You’re obviously uncomforta...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
You're a "Catholic" who doesnt think hell is fair?...
boyish point
  05/22/20
playing devils advocate obviously
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
bullshit. you're a fucking liar.
boyish point
  05/22/20
i am not a liar shitlib
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
hang on let's at least get one thing straight: born against ...
mischievous police squad patrolman
  05/23/20
What % of xtians irl actually believe in a literal Hell?
Swashbuckling faggot firefighter
  05/22/20
hell is distance from god. look at every thread complaining ...
Iridescent rehab
  05/22/20
Coming to see more and more that hell is not just the absenc...
boyish point
  05/22/20
explain. you think people choose hell? come on
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Yes. I think people choose hell.
boyish point
  05/22/20
Wouldn't you have to be literally insane to choose eternal t...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/22/20
you don't choose torture, you choose to not obey god out of ...
boyish point
  05/22/20
Why is eternal torture the appropriate punishment for self-r...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
ask god shitlib i didnt invent the rules. you also have an h...
boyish point
  05/23/20
Ah okay, so your god is basically an indefensible sadist. Th...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
it's not "my god". it's God. the attributes of the...
boyish point
  05/23/20
It's absolutely "your god," as opposed to the thou...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
no way you're a real guy
boyish point
  05/23/20
(me when reading about Jesus in the bible)
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
first witty thing you've said, probably ever
boyish point
  05/23/20
Why can't you answer my questions? Whining about "theor...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
yeah bro, im the one insecure in my beliefs. you are just be...
boyish point
  05/23/20
lol at you running circles around anyone ever. you can't com...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
what you dont realize is that when you have insights into th...
boyish point
  05/23/20
incredible that you’re trying to resort to “oh, ...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
you want me to have experiences of god for you. can't physic...
boyish point
  05/23/20
sorry about your hallucinations.
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
Consciousness is an hallucination. Yours is just in low reso...
boyish point
  05/23/20
link?
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
You know nothing
boyish point
  05/23/20
lmao, that's what I thought
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
If you don't already know the exact subfield of the philosop...
boyish point
  05/23/20
Weird criterion for intelligence
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
No idea why you bother opining on religion if you aren't at ...
boyish point
  05/23/20
Were you trying to make some irrelevant reference to solipsi...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
Such a weak intellect
boyish point
  05/23/20
(Guy who believes there was a wizard running around in iron ...
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
You're like the nerd in the bar that needs me to order a dri...
boyish point
  05/23/20
Nerd? Aren't Christians usually the weird volcel types
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
No I'm incel
boyish point
  05/23/20
Sorry to hear that. I'll pray for you
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/23/20
...
boyish point
  05/23/20
you can certainly choose to reject what is natural and good,...
Federal motley range
  05/22/20
when he says people choose hell I assume he means they do so...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
it's hard to dismiss a literal hell vis a vis Jesus's commen...
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
how do you justify behaving in such a fashion you are punish...
vibrant casino nibblets
  05/22/20
What makes most sense is that only a small group of people w...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
There is no balancing after you’re justified by God. Y...
boyish point
  05/22/20
"after you're justified" -- to go through this pro...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
I don’t understand. When I accepted Jesus as Lord I wa...
boyish point
  05/22/20
If you have truly "accepted" Jesus, then you are c...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
Justification before god does not guarantee or require sinle...
boyish point
  05/22/20
Brother, your initial premise was that there is no work to b...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
our coming to know the Lord in the way described in Mat. 7:2...
boyish point
  05/22/20
Ephesians 1:10-14 is basically saying that belief in Christ ...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
After conversion we're sealed and given the spirit, by whom ...
boyish point
  05/22/20
That is well said and beautiful. I think we agree on the ...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
Yeah and I just can’t shake the reformed fatalism
boyish point
  05/22/20
lol so heaven is basically the same acceptance rate as a dir...
Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal
  05/22/20
...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Once you truly accept the Word and you let everything else d...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and...
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
...
Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal
  05/22/20
ok and do you think it makes sense for most people to end up...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
no and it makes me very sad to think about.
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
(david koresh)
Cocky translucent parlor
  05/22/20
The meaning of this is not entirely clear since in other pas...
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
i hope that this is the case.
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
What a positive and concise summary of Hope.
Federal motley range
  05/22/20
Amen, brother!
Sepia corn cake
  05/22/20
they all think they're not going to go to hell even though t...
Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal
  05/22/20
salvation has nothing to do with church
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
They had to try to get Heaven to make sense, otherwise why n...
Bipolar Black Woman Ceo
  05/22/20
Don't believe in God, but if you assume that people's fundam...
cowardly cracking potus
  05/22/20
poasters gotta end up somewhere
Amber theater reading party
  05/22/20
I don't think we can pass judgement on who goes to hell, wha...
electric hunting ground location
  05/22/20
cr
irradiated red gaping locus
  05/22/20
Just read “The Great Divorce” by cs Lewis. Gives...
Exciting frum church
  05/22/20
...
vibrant casino nibblets
  05/22/20
just bought this on my kindle and will read
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home
  05/22/20
Lord, liar, or lunatic! Am I right?
chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting
  05/22/20
cs lewis is a fraud
boyish point
  05/22/20
Why?
Sepia corn cake
  05/23/20
God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
stirring market
  05/22/20
you can thank free will for hell
hot bawdyhouse
  05/22/20
There is 50/50 chance of some sort of deity - there either i...
charcoal plaza newt
  05/23/20
I think that's a fake Marcus Aurelius quote that's been floa...
haunting theater stage electric furnace
  05/23/20
Really? It's fake? ;-(
charcoal plaza newt
  05/23/20
hell is a state far too common and hardly anyone anyone real...
khaki hairless university ratface
  05/23/20
XO has gone full-level retard now. This is a reddit-level...
Jade faggotry crackhouse
  05/23/20
it's always been full level, right now night crew is just ge...
khaki hairless university ratface
  05/23/20
What’s the scholarly take?
bistre cuckoldry
  05/23/20
God is a prick
Charismatic cruel-hearted trust fund sound barrier
  05/23/20
I think hell describes a state of your relationship with God
diverse dilemma
  05/23/20


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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

do you really think it’s fair for someone to spend ETERNITY in HELL for the actions they took in a very short existence? how do you justify that belief?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258120)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: Coral internal respiration property

Who said anything was supposed to be fair?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258543)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: boyish point

Hell is where you go if you don’t accept Christ as your savior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258133)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Do you believe in limbo, gehenna etc.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258140)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: boyish point

Nah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258146)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

What happens to unbaptized babies and pre-christian righteous pagans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258155)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:59 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

christians should remain agnostic on these things, but it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to salvation for these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258170)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Dante had no problem telling us who was where. Just hard to do without a multilayered hell lije Catholics have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258177)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

Dante is not the divine word

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258236)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

No shit. Pretty smart and pious dude tho. There is nothing wrong with thinking and pondering these questions. There’s a long tradition of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258242)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

yeah i agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258255)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:10 PM
Author: comical mexican rigor

"it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to salvation for these people"

Mercy for some but not others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258259)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:45 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

these kinds of rebuttals are valid and why it is best for Christians to remain agnostic on matters of divine justice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258478)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: boyish point

Babies are fine because they never reached a decision point

Pagans are lost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258173)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

So they’re all with the murderers ? Doesn’t seem just at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258187)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: boyish point

There is no fair/unfair before God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258206)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

I didn’t say fair. I said just. Are you saying God is not just?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258221)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: boyish point

God is just only in his punishment of the wicked. Our sin against his infinite goodness is so great it warrants eternal damnation. Only through the mercy Christ won for us on the cross can god justify the sinner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258238)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Ruby hairraiser set

This is so retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258399)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:52 PM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

What does "infinite goodness" mean and how does it entail that not being convinced that there was a wizard running around in ancient times means that you deserve to be tortured for eternity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260300)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:56 PM
Author: boyish point

hello and welcome to the thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260319)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

I await your answer to my question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260353)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: boyish point

ask god shitlib i dont make the rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260363)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: Histrionic Area

unless they are part of the elect, than you betta BELEE those babies deserve to go to hell. they are horrible sinners in the eyes of god. there's no "decision point," you either are saved through the grace of god (totally unearned and undeserved by you) or you aren't in which case you 10000% deserve hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258257)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: boyish point

A baby can’t sin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258267)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:20 PM
Author: Histrionic Area

Babies are perfect in their love and worship of God? Lol no, the instant a baby comes into existence, it is BLACK with sin and deserves eternal damnation. Some, I assume, God chooses to save.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258343)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:34 PM
Author: boyish point

yeah i might actually revise my take here. sounded wrong immediately after i wrote it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258425)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:12 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

CR I appreciate the logical consistency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258278)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:32 AM
Author: bistre cuckoldry

lol why are Christians reproducing if they actually believe this shit? Bring a baby into the world and whoops condemn it to eternal suffering and torture in HELL? Seems selfish/evil as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261625)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: Massive Odious Clown Useless Brakes

limbo was debunked in vatican II i thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258201)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Stop listening to jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258229)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:12 PM
Author: Massive Odious Clown Useless Brakes

nah, catholic school specifically said limbo was bullshit (it was for unbaptized babies or some shit?). purgatory are the church suffering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258280)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

you don’t think that’s a bit fucked up and far fetched? in such a diverse world there are countless people who die not accepting Christ as their savior through no fault of their own. you think they deserve to be in hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258152)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Catholics have this covered

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_(Catholic_theology)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258162)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

lol ok. what is the point in proselytizing then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258195)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Heaven is still better. They just aren’t treated the SAME as people who chose to reject it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258213)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

what? I’m asking what the point in proselytizing is if non-Christians can go to heaven without accepting Christ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258226)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

Where does it say they can go to Heaven? It just says they are not judged as harshly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258232)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:16 PM
Author: Federal motley range

because as Christians you have a positive command to do that from Jesus. As a Catholic, living a just life as an example, rather than going door to door is my version of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258309)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:55 PM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Wouldn't it have made more sense for Christians to not tell anyone about Jesus to avoid putting them at risk of going to hell for their skepticism? Even if the first Christians all went to hell for ignoring this "positive command," surely that's better than the millions (?) of people who are now condemned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260317)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:02 AM
Author: anal hall

Lol wtf? Imagine life on earth without knowing christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260341)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:14 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Plenty of non-Christians live happy lives, bro. And even if Christians are happier, it doesn't seem worth the risk of telling people about Christianity and possibly condemning them to being tortured for eternity if they don't buy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260376)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:15 AM
Author: anal hall

Imagine thinking being "happy" is adequate consolation for not knowing Christ in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260379)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:17 AM
Author: boyish point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260385)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:59 PM
Author: boyish point

What the father does with unconverted souls is not something that I pass judgment on. If you take a deep look at the sinister aspects of your humanity, and you see the face of evil, it would be hard for me to believe you don’t come out of that convinced hell is a place where souls can be trapped for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258163)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

ok so you don’t have a good answer apart from faith. got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258196)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: boyish point

I think you’re confusing faith and experience. If you are not familiar with your own depravity and sinister nature, I would implore you to find out more about it. Not through faith but reflection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258230)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258286)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

I am deranged just like most other poasters but I don’t think I should end up in HELL for ETERNITY. That seems absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258288)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:15 PM
Author: boyish point

Again not understanding why you think you can reason your way to the right outcome. If you really see the depth of your depravity you will see the depth of hell. Until you do I’m not surprised you don’t understand why you belong there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258304)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:22 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

Not convincing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258352)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:35 PM
Author: boyish point

not really trying to convince you here hoss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258427)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

not saying you are joss. just commenting that I don’t find your view on life to be credible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258452)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: boyish point

you write like you think like a 19 year old

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258456)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

you write like you don’t think very much at all. not only are you unable to explain your views on anything in a logical manner, but you also appear to be of the mouth-breathing Protestant saved by grace alone bent. lmao @ you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258480)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:47 PM
Author: boyish point

anyone who thinks that the path to god is through argumentation and that worldviews can have or lack credibility is an intellectual midget deserving of all the wrath of the father who he rejects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258488)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:48 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

lol where did I suggest that you fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258492)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:50 PM
Author: boyish point

It's all over this thread. its obvious that you're immature and intellectually stunted. you're still struggling with questions about why your life hasnt turned out the way you hoped, and you're rejecting the possibility that it was your own fuckups that put you in a place where you're questioning god and the fundamental nature of being itself.

Now you're begging XO "please tell me hell isn't real" because you know you're a piece of shit that deserve eternal punishment. you will rot in hell for the garbage pile that is your life and the sooner you wake up to that fact and get your shit together the better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258498)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:57 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

My life is perfectly fine. You’re obviously uncomfortable with the fact that you struggle to explain your views coherently, and when called on it you resort to personal attacks.

I’m a catholic and believe in hell. I had a conversation with my atheist sister about the topic yesterday and thought I’d get XOs take on it.

I didn’t think I’d end up wasting my time talking to aa born again Christian Protestant retard like you, but alas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258529)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:02 PM
Author: boyish point

You're a "Catholic" who doesnt think hell is fair? what are they teaching you over there brother? Perhaps your over reliance on articulating the ineffable is causing you to err on serious doctrinal points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258554)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

playing devils advocate obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258626)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM
Author: boyish point

bullshit. you're a fucking liar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258629)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:28 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

i am not a liar shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258711)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: mischievous police squad patrolman

hang on let's at least get one thing straight: born against christians are rarely shitlib, that's for lutherans, methodists, and episcopalians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260491)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Swashbuckling faggot firefighter

What % of xtians irl actually believe in a literal Hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258136)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: Iridescent rehab

hell is distance from god. look at every thread complaining about modern life--that's hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258158)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:01 PM
Author: boyish point

Coming to see more and more that hell is not just the absence of god. We play an active role in rebellion and hell is a place where that rebellion isn’t just free but actively confined through choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258184)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

explain. you think people choose hell? come on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258205)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: boyish point

Yes. I think people choose hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258217)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:58 PM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Wouldn't you have to be literally insane to choose eternal torture? Why would an insane person deserve to be tortured for their irrational choices?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260327)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: boyish point

you don't choose torture, you choose to not obey god out of self-righteousness and do what you want instead of what he wants for you. torture is the punishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260330)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Why is eternal torture the appropriate punishment for self-righteousness?

Also, why are you equating being skeptical of the existence of your god with "choosing not to obey him"? If you died and found out that Islam was the true religion, would you agree with a sentence of eternal torture for rejecting the Koran?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260351)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: boyish point

ask god shitlib i didnt invent the rules. you also have an hilariously naive view that a "religion" can be "true" lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260362)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:11 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Ah okay, so your god is basically an indefensible sadist. Thanks for confirming.

By a religion (why the scare quotes?) being "true," I mean that, for example, there could actually be a celestial dictator who tortures people for not believing that there was a wizard running around doing magic tricks in ancient times (Christianity being true), or this could be entirely fictitious (Christianity being false). I don't see how this is a naive characterization of the two possibilities?

Also, yuge trumpmo here, not a shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260373)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:17 AM
Author: boyish point

it's not "my god". it's God. the attributes of the divine ground of being aren't up for debate. I used quotes when I referred to "religion" and "true" because I'm using the terms the way you use them - incorrectly and with little to no command. again, the way you use increasingly silly and fanciful language to describe the heatbeat of the universe underscores the nonsensical way you're applying a correspondence theory of truth to Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260384)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:32 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

It's absolutely "your god," as opposed to the thousands of other gods invented by primitive ancient people, such as Allah, Zeus, Odin, etc., each of which has just as much evidence for its existence as yours does (none).

How is it "incorrect"? What part of your belief in an Iron Age war god requires some arcane "theory of truth" to talk about whether or not there actually exists a celestial dictator?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260433)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:33 AM
Author: boyish point

no way you're a real guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260442)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:38 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

(me when reading about Jesus in the bible)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260459)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:38 AM
Author: boyish point

first witty thing you've said, probably ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260464)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:39 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Why can't you answer my questions? Whining about "theories of truth" instead of defending your beliefs seems like desperate last-ditch sophistry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260472)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:41 AM
Author: boyish point

yeah bro, im the one insecure in my beliefs. you are just begging me to give you the full on gospel to save you from your nonsensical pedantry. im running absolute circles around you and your best response is "zeus though"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260479)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

lol at you running circles around anyone ever. you can't come up with the first fucking reason why anyone should give more of a shit about your bizarre ancient fairy tales than about the fairy tales of the goatherders who lived next door to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260489)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:48 AM
Author: boyish point

what you dont realize is that when you have insights into the nature of reality as penetrating as those conferred on a christian the feeble heel nipping by internet dorks, which is clearly a desperate cry for spiritual guidance, is an absolute joke that doesnt warrant anything but playful mouse-batting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260496)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:51 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

incredible that you’re trying to resort to “oh, I’m not going to spell out the full gospel to someone like you who wouldn’t get it. it’s complicated. involves theories of truth and stuff so if you don’t have a PhD in philosophy then why bother. the attributes aren’t up for debate anyway.”

you don’t get to pull that after you’ve already had to throw up your hands in exasperation and exclaim, “I dunno! Ask god, shitlib! I agree that it’s hard to make sense of the majestic, penetrating theological doctrine of torturing people for a bajillion years for not believing in wizards, but fuck you!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260501)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: boyish point

you want me to have experiences of god for you. can't physically or mentally do that. sorry about your barren inner world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260508)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:03 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

sorry about your hallucinations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260529)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: boyish point

Consciousness is an hallucination. Yours is just in low resolution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260534)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:08 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260543)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:09 AM
Author: boyish point

You know nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260546)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:10 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

lmao, that's what I thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260547)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:14 AM
Author: boyish point

If you don't already know the exact subfield of the philosophy of mind I'm referencing you're dumber than dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260553)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:15 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Weird criterion for intelligence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260556)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:18 AM
Author: boyish point

No idea why you bother opining on religion if you aren't at least aquainted with contemporary philosophy of mind. Completely out of your depth. You don't even have a passing knowledge of epistemology, let alone the substantive religion youre attempting to criticize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260567)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:34 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Were you trying to make some irrelevant reference to solipsism or something? Either way, who cares? You've shown yourself unable to even begin to address the most obvious absurdities in your belief system. Contemporary philosophy of mind isn't really needed here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260616)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:38 AM
Author: boyish point

Such a weak intellect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260624)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:43 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

(Guy who believes there was a wizard running around in iron age palestine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260630)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:44 AM
Author: boyish point

You're like the nerd in the bar that needs me to order a drink for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260634)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:46 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Nerd? Aren't Christians usually the weird volcel types

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260636)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:48 AM
Author: boyish point

No I'm incel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260641)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Sorry to hear that. I'll pray for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260646)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:50 AM
Author: boyish point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260647)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:17 PM
Author: Federal motley range

you can certainly choose to reject what is natural and good, cant you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258315)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

when he says people choose hell I assume he means they do so knowing that they’re choosing eternal damnation. if they dont choose it knowingly, then it’s not really a choice, which makes the eternal aspect of it even more absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258397)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

it's hard to dismiss a literal hell vis a vis Jesus's comments on the matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258161)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: vibrant casino nibblets

how do you justify behaving in such a fashion you are punished with spending eternity in hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258176)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:01 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

What makes most sense is that only a small group of people would be subject to Hell (eternal separation from God), which are those that truly deserve it and have willingly pursued it.

Jesus says that our acceptance of Him (i.e., God / the Word of Truth) need only be as small as a mustard seed.

In other places in the Bible, it says that nothing that we do will be unpunished.

Reading these things together would reasonably lead one to believe that most people will suffer to the extent of their wrongs so that balance is wrought, but the pathway to heaven (which entails joining with the eternal and indescribably more), requires only a very small potential at first, meaning most people will probably be on that path.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258181)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: boyish point

There is no balancing after you’re justified by God. You are fully justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258198)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

"after you're justified" -- to go through this process, which Catholics refer to as purgatory, there will be work that needs to be done on your soul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258220)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:10 PM
Author: boyish point

I don’t understand. When I accepted Jesus as Lord I was born again and fully justified in the eyes of the Father. What is the purpose of the passion and resurrection if not for me to die to sin and be raised again in this life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258260)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

If you have truly "accepted" Jesus, then you are correct.

But true acceptance is very difficult and it is a process. That is what I'm referring to.

I suspect that those of us, including myself, that still sin, have not finished this acceptance process and are not likely to do so until we are dead and our hearts are fully changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258380)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:38 PM
Author: boyish point

Justification before god does not guarantee or require sinlessness. justification before god is the mercy and grace you receive because of Christ's work on the cross.

You're confusing justification in the ordo salutis with sanctification. you were justified when you were converted.

"truly" accepting christ is not something that is possible, if it means being in constant communion with God. Only Christ himself could do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258439)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

Brother, your initial premise was that there is no work to be done (i.e., no balancing) after you are justified, which can be solely accomplished through "acceptance" of Christ.

What I am saying is that true acceptance is not taking place amongst us sinners just because we say we "accept" Christ.

You can parse the semantics between justification and sanctification, but ultimately, I think we would both agree that the process to make it to the finish line is a difficult and narrow path and not one that can be done simply by uttering a word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258510)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: boyish point

our coming to know the Lord in the way described in Mat. 7:21-23 is guaranteed by our justification as described in Eph. 1:10-14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258542)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:10 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

Ephesians 1:10-14 is basically saying that belief in Christ leads to Heaven.

It is not saying that there will be no further transformation before our sanctification -- this is discussed in other areas of the Bible and is what I'm saying.

Do you disagree with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258596)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:14 PM
Author: boyish point

After conversion we're sealed and given the spirit, by whom we speak in times of tribulation, until we are redeemed. that process of speaking in the spirit through tribulation is the process of sanctification, of coming to know Christ in his passion and being raised with him in the resurrection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258623)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:37 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

That is well said and beautiful.

I think we agree on the core point of discussion, which is that transformation happens in the soul during the sanctification process. There are no shortcuts on this journey simply by saying that we accept Christ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258787)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:56 PM
Author: boyish point

Yeah and I just can’t shake the reformed fatalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258895)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal

lol so heaven is basically the same acceptance rate as a directional state U? why even bother to be a good person then? just don't be terrible and live life however the fuck you want, you'll end up in heaven anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258200)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258212)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

Once you truly accept the Word and you let everything else die, you will understand why living as if nothing matters cannot coexist with acceptance of the Word.

There are consequences for our actions in this lifetime -- as the Bible says, every sin will be repaid. So don't think that just because you eventually get into State U, you don't have to make up for what you've done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258241)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258203)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258208)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

ok and do you think it makes sense for most people to end up in HELL?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258218)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

no and it makes me very sad to think about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258231)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: Cocky translucent parlor

(david koresh)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258290)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

The meaning of this is not entirely clear since in other passages, Jesus says that all who have faith as small as a mustard seed will make it.

The two can only be reconciled by the belief that it is hard to make it to Heaven but that many will eventually make it there.

The belief in Jesus is basically the belief in God. Jesus is the Word (God/Truth) incarnate, meaning that to live (or at least to have the potential to live) by his Word and his teachings, is probably sufficient -- otherwise, everyone alive before his birth wouldn't make it and everyone born into other religions and cultures wouldn't make it.

To accept the Word is to accept the spirit that every human feels inside of them. Even psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong.

This is why many Catholic priests say it is conceivable that everyone or most will end up in Heaven even though they are aware of the passage you quoted.

Hope this helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258291)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:31 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

i hope that this is the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258406)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:18 PM
Author: Federal motley range

What a positive and concise summary of Hope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258322)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Sepia corn cake

Amen, brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258398)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: Dashing snowy hell sneaky criminal

they all think they're not going to go to hell even though they spend all their free time on xoxo and never go to church

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258193)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

salvation has nothing to do with church

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258211)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: Bipolar Black Woman Ceo

They had to try to get Heaven to make sense, otherwise why not just kill self and go to Heaven? But it still makes no sense, because if existence is just a demented game of tug of war where you’re a puppet being pulled toward two different poles, why even bother existing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258202)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: cowardly cracking potus

Don't believe in God, but if you assume that people's fundamental spiritual orientation towards God and the values he calls you to uphold is somehow fixed by the process of the soul leaving the body at death (as is suggested by certain parts of Christian theology, e.g. https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5098.htm ), it's pretty clear why an eternal punishment is justified. It's also pretty clear that that's what almost every (maybe even every) human being who ever lived deserves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258224)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: Amber theater reading party

poasters gotta end up somewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258268)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: electric hunting ground location

I don't think we can pass judgement on who goes to hell, what form it takes or for what period of time (if the concept of time even exists). That would be up to God to decide.

What we do know is that the likely only path available to one who is exposed to the teachings of Christ is to accept him and his teachings into our heart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258458)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:42 PM
Author: irradiated red gaping locus

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258459)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:12 PM
Author: Exciting frum church

Just read “The Great Divorce” by cs Lewis. Gives a good take on hell and why people would choose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258993)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:25 PM
Author: vibrant casino nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40259054)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:51 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested nursing home

just bought this on my kindle and will read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40259167)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: chestnut self-absorbed theatre famous landscape painting

Lord, liar, or lunatic! Am I right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260332)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: boyish point

cs lewis is a fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260336)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: Sepia corn cake

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261615)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: stirring market

God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260285)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: hot bawdyhouse

you can thank free will for hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260335)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:14 AM
Author: charcoal plaza newt

There is 50/50 chance of some sort of deity - there either is or there isn't (but it's definitely not clear that the Christian one is the right one or the most powerful one).

This quote from Marcus Aurelius is pretty good

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260378)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: haunting theater stage electric furnace

I think that's a fake Marcus Aurelius quote that's been floating around the internet. But this one is real and sounds like XO:

7.21 Soon you will have forgotten all things: soon all things will have forgotten you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260507)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 7:52 PM
Author: charcoal plaza newt

Really? It's fake? ;-(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40263431)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:42 AM
Author: khaki hairless university ratface

hell is a state far too common and hardly anyone anyone realizes that they are in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260485)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: Jade faggotry crackhouse

XO has gone full-level retard now.

This is a reddit-level take on religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260511)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: khaki hairless university ratface

it's always been full level, right now night crew is just getting ready to burn those midnight hot pockets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260642)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: bistre cuckoldry

What’s the scholarly take?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261627)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: Charismatic cruel-hearted trust fund sound barrier

God is a prick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260643)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 7:54 PM
Author: diverse dilemma

I think hell describes a state of your relationship with God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40263438)