Serious question: can anything be done for the poors?
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Date: May 25th, 2020 11:08 AM Author: slippery mint trust fund
“ People aren’t taking ridiculous loans to take online classes for the next year”
Why not? The loans were ridiculous last year too. Schools already charge higher fees for online courses
“ Foreign students who were previously pumping colleges with cash are gone and probably won’t be back”
They will use this as an excuse to raise tuition!
“ Many lower tier colleges will close permanently by next spring and be replaced by much cheaper online programs”
Whose programs? Community college will remain cheap. Namebrand schools don’t really have incentive to lower tuition if their competition is all shuttered.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40270615) |
Date: May 25th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: bisexual hall people who are hurt
There are.two.options. First is we.stop.importing low wage workers and the.value.of.human labor goes up again.
The other is we wait for the robots to replace us to.where the value of highly skilled labor goes to zero.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40270535) |
Date: May 25th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: passionate maroon address
Raise interest rates - people can earn money from savings accounts and asset prices become more affordable, pensions become more viable.
Ban foreign ownership of certain asset classes (residential RE is the big one, also farmland)
Higher personal income tax levels for the rich like in the sixties and earlier but leave businesses tax rates alone
Private unions returning on full force
Decentralized supply chains and production infrastructure being returned to this country
Close most scam colleges and replace with trade schools
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40270574) |
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Date: May 25th, 2020 11:28 AM Author: smoky talented step-uncle's house brethren
Higher personal income tax levels for the rich like in the sixties and earlier but leave businesses tax rates alone
Can we go back to 1960’s spending too?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40270687) |
Date: May 25th, 2020 11:31 AM Author: hateful spectacular lay
my parents were poor immigrants without a ged. i’ve gone to the best schools on the planet and make like 6x what my parents make combined. whatever so i’m pretty biased and inclined to blame the poor for much (but def not all) of their plight.
anyway wealth inequality seems less important than quality of life for the bottom 20% of people. whether that’s improved is an open question but that seems like the right focus.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40270694) |
Date: May 25th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: shimmering stead jewess
having an underclass is structurally a part of civilization and won't go away anytime soon. we don't have an underclass problem. we have an undesirable problem
what we need to focus on is getting rid of as many undesirables as possible, as fast as possible. an underclass made up of 85 IQ white people can still be integrated into society at large. an underclass made up of 70 IQ niggers, beaners, and random 3rd worlders who hate white people and hate "america" and don't see themselves as integrated members of a coherent society is a really big problem that cannot be internally solved. no one wants to live around these people, no one wants to associate with these people, they produce net negative economic wealth via public benefits leeching, they commit absurdly disproportionate amounts of crime - they are straight up dead weight on society
we simply need to get rid of these people. you can call me "racist" all you want, but you know it's true. there are timelines where chinese, indians, even jews finally successfully integrate into our society. but there are zero timelines where the "united states" maintains its utterly worthless dead weight non-white structural underclass and coalesces as a healthy society. we either get rid of them and close the borders to them or we give up on our civilization entirely
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Date: May 25th, 2020 2:45 PM Author: shimmering stead jewess
you can't, in my opinion. the social costs of allowing these people to exist freely in our society will always massively outweigh any small economic benefit we can glean by de facto enslaving them
the closest we've come to "solving" this problem is throwing them in prison and using them as slave labor there, where they are locked up separately from the rest of civilized society. personally, i find this "solution" to be morally abhorrent and unacceptable, and i'm also not convinced that this arrangement even results in a net purely economic benefit to society at large, once all of the costs are taken into account
we just have to remove them beyond the borders of our society and let them live freely somewhere else, where they are not our problem
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Date: May 25th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: shimmering stead jewess
yes, a +3 SD IQ normal middle-class white guy with zero criminal history is an undesirable in "modern day america." i, too, am very confident that if you asked a representative segment of the country across all demographics, they would decisively say that they would not want to live around, work with, or socialize with someone like me. that's why the neighborhoods, communities, and organizations made up of people like me are some of the least popular and well-avoided areas of this country
great post, man. really intelligent and well thought-out. definitely a valuable insight that contributes to the conversation that the rest of us can take seriously. you clearly understand this subject matter at a high level
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40271751) |
Date: May 25th, 2020 10:01 PM Author: Bipolar dilemma
We're in a world where unskilled labor is increasingly unnecessary. In the coming few decades we're going to see more jobs automated. When self-driving becomes a reality and taxis, buses, trains, delivery vans, etc. all get automated, the shitty situation of the working class is going to get even worse. All of the proposals above fail to consider this. "Oh, we'll bring back unions!" Great, make it even less desirable to hire Americans. Suddenly, automation is worth it even if it is more expensive because machines and AI don't go on strike, sabotage equipment, etc. "Oh, we'll give them free shit!" You can't have 25% of the population essentially supporting the other 75%. Especially in a country where there's no real ethnic or religious ties holding people here, so if another country suddenly became a better destination everyone would bail. How many of us wouldn't leave the US for say, Australia, Austria, Poland, etc. if we could get better jobs there after AOC gets elected POTUS after Biden and 2 terms of crazy ex-gf Amy?
There's no easy fix of course. The reality is that we need to stop importing people for labor that won't exist. Unless someone is uniquely qualified to do some job here or bringing more money than they're expected to take we shouldn't be allowing them to immigrate. It is basic common sense but most politicians seem to fundamentally disagree with it. My theory on why is that for libs it is about stacking the demographic deck with people who will always vote for them and for Republicans, you mostly have old boomers that won't be around to see the whole house of cards collapse. The moral of the story is that there's what we need to do and there's what is going to happen. And I don't see it going in a good direction.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4541765&forum_id=2#40273543) |
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