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It's clear the lockdowns need to continue until a vaccine is widely available
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: Doobsian Exhilarant Haunted Graveyard anything short of that, and you're condemning millions to death. in the modern age, this is unacceptable and no politicians are willing to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514241) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:13 AM Author: charcoal aromatic institution lettuce agreed ....keep the lockdowns till we get a vaccine...keep all schools closed...if parents don't have a babysitter in the family, pay them for a sitter... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514940) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:05 AM Author: comical lodge Shut up you woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519934) |
Date: June 29th, 2020 9:29 AM Author: chestnut center If I were arguing for lockdowns, I would not emphasize deaths so much. People know they were misled and will not lend credibility to these claims.
The stronger case is this: We still do not know much if anything about CV19. We do know that the symptoms, even for younger healthy people, are terribly painful. They can last weeks and sometimes months. We have no idea about long term ramifications, but there is evidence for organ damage and effects beyond the early suffering.
These unknowns, combined with the fact that CV19 can be lethal to elderly and infirmed, justify continued stay-at-home orders.
To offset the economic costs of this, monthly UBI will begin at 2000, PPP loans will be enlarged with easier forgiveness, and parents will be given further UBI directed towards homeschooling costs. States will try to match expenditures per pupil in public schools.
The public will be given weekly updates as to vaccine trials and $XXX from the federal budget will be allocated immediately to vaccine readiness. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:31 AM Author: Lake market “ We still do not know much if anything about CV19. We do know that the symptoms, even for younger healthy people, are terribly painful. They can last weeks and sometimes months. We have no idea about long term ramifications, but there is evidence for organ damage and effects beyond the early suffering.”
So its a cold |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:32 AM Author: chestnut center Im just making the case for OP's argument. Not sure what I believe. I obv dont trust the media, at all, but there is enough data to doubt it is only as inconvenient as a cold. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514279) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:34 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house that case is retarded as fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514285) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:35 AM Author: Lake market “ but there is enough data to doubt it is only as inconvenient as a cold.”
This just isnt true. Lol at being “on the fence” about such an obvious fraud, you fool. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:36 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house anybody who believes retarded shit like this "sticky" guy at this point is an irredeemable imbecile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514294) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:38 AM Author: chestnut center Rejecting the propaganda from the spring, only to conclude that the virus is only a cold, is to spring from one retardation to another.
I'm out and about, living mostly normally, but given the choice between being infected by the flu and being infected by CV, Id take the flu, no matter how you stacked the odds. Wouldnt you? |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:40 AM Author: Lake market I am not afraid of Covid 19. At all. Full stop.
“ Id take the flu, no matter how you stacked the odds”
You are profoundly retarded |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: chestnut center Sentence fragments?? You must be serious.
tbh, I dont care what youre afraid of. Im not "afraid" either I guess, and just roadtripped from Florida to Arizona and back.
But just because I dont support stay-at-home orders doesnt mean I would not do many things to avoid getting pozzed by some bizarre chinese virus whose effects are largely unknown. I hope the people around me share enough "fear" to not get pozzed too.
Casting it in the language of internet-tuffness is dumb. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:45 AM Author: Lake market You are a retarded coward with the mental constitution of a white woman. Im not “casting”, this is the truth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514347) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:48 AM Author: chestnut center lol, you operate at the gorilla level of a shitlib. Completely befuddled by any rationality and armed only with ad hominems you falsely believe have some magic power. "Bad people say virus killer, so good people prefer it to the flu! You bad person!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514373) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:50 AM Author: Lake market You aren’t being rational at all tho. You say you don’t believe news media, then you demonstrate that you actually believe all their hysteria at a very fundamental level. This is because you are scared, like a woman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514389) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: chestnut center I suppose our argument stems from the fact that you have determined, once and for all, that the virus has no teeth whatsoever. That, not only is not the killer people feared in February, it will not impact your life any more than 48 hours of feeling sick.
Im agnostic on that and as frustrated as you by the absence of a media that could shed light. I suppose if you were similarly unsure of CV19 consequences, you might agree with me. Maybe I will come to see youre right, but in the absence of data I dont see proof yet. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:57 AM Author: Lake market All the data you need is already available. Pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514432) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Doobsian Exhilarant Haunted Graveyard what makes you qualified to evaluate data?
you're a fucking moron. |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:18 AM Author: Lascivious violent locale volcanic crater He's right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519979) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:34 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house ROFL
you are an idiot. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:37 AM Author: Racy fortuitous meteor where does the tax money for UBI come from, if half of the businesses that pay taxes are locked down? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514297) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:40 AM Author: chestnut center Dont desk lawyers ever have to craft an argument for a position that is not their own?
Explicitly stated that if i were to begin from OP's conclusion, to be compelling he would have to somehow generate massive UBI. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:50 AM Author: wine embarrassed to the bone corn cake masturbator The people who are going to get the money will spend it, generating additional income for the businesses that are open, and the taxes on those earnings along with the exponential benefit of continued growth will be more than sufficient to cover a piddling UBI program. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514391) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:09 AM Author: adventurous salmon parlour mediation cr. if there’s any debate to be had at all it’s whether we should be giving everyone a billion dollars a month in ubi or infinity dollars a month in ubi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514492) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514735) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:43 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house ROFL. This is the equivalent of jumping before the plane crashes
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:21 AM Author: Lascivious violent locale volcanic crater This is the "padddy's bucks" self sustaining economy based on chuck e. cheese tokens episode of Always Sunny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519986) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: gold cocky gas station CR you just have to print money to keep an economy going.
Actually production is meaningless. |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:08 AM Author: Wild range ape PPP is dogshit and LOL at running that W UBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519942) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:31 AM Author: filthy associate Maybe 1-2 million tops. Depending on the breaks.
Another year of lockdowns will kill many more than that through suicide and addiction, etc. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:38 AM Author: Hyperactive saffron dilemma how weak are americans psychologically? the rest of the world seems able to tackle this shit without such effects (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514302) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:47 AM Author: filthy associate The depression and addiction issues, I don't know.
But we're fucking incompetent at giving any hope we'll get through this okay. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:48 AM Author: Lake market Are you joking? Theres riots going on all over the world. This is psychological torture of the cruelest variety. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514370) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:00 AM Author: aphrodisiac knife hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514450) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:01 AM Author: Rusted razzle location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514453) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:51 PM Author: Doobsian Exhilarant Haunted Graveyard you're a little bitch crying about the "psychological torture" of having to stay at home for a while, while calling others hysterical women for not wanting millions of people to die. hmm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515700) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:32 AM Author: electric nighttime cumskin Weak and hysterical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514277) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:36 AM Author: cream thriller parlor skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514292) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:36 AM Author: cream thriller parlor skinny woman Lol jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514291) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:39 AM Author: domesticated box office hissy fit We had lockdowns, and then we had major riots and mass protests. It's what happens when you throw 50% of AAs out of work and probably 50% of young people too.
The collective mental stress all over the place is astonishing to see. Everyone feels it to some degree. And this is only after three months. Imagine if we'd been kept locked down for an extra three months? Or a year?
At this point the sensible thing is to keep bars closed, keep indoor places like gyms and churches (sorry, yes, even churches) closed, no indoor dining, mandate masks in public, and otherwise let people get on in life. That's something most of us can live with. The big unknown is schools come September. Everyone I know wants their kids back in school full time and may tolerate a partial schedule, but anything less than that is going to have a lot of people going crazy.
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: Lake market Nothing you suggested is sensible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514342) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: tan mischievous ratface ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514349) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: electric nighttime cumskin "and churches (sorry, yes, even churches) closed"
no. |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 8:13 AM Author: green brunch factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40520293) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:47 AM Author: aphrodisiac knife hominid how does this even follow - "It's very clear the mental stress is off the chart. The sensible thing is to keep everything closed indefinitely" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514359) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:48 AM Author: tan mischievous ratface ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514366) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: Glassy heady sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514418) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:58 AM Author: Rusted razzle location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514435) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:13 AM Author: cream thriller parlor skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514514) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:20 AM Author: domesticated box office hissy fit Where in my post did I say outdoor dining had to close, or golf courses had to close, or people couldn't meet friends in parks, as long as they wore masks?
I'm all for keeping all businesses open with the usual precaution. I don't care if it's Home Depot or a boutique selling gourmet dog food, both can open. Just wear masks and don't allow too many people inside at a time.
But there are some venues that are sensible to keep closed for a bit longer. We can live without bars for another few months or even a year. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:22 AM Author: Lake market No, we can not endure this disruption for another year. Most Americans would be completely broken psychologically by then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514554) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: electric nighttime cumskin "outdoor dining had to close, or golf courses had to close, or people couldn't meet friends in parks, as long as they wore masks"
just not those prole whites and their churches right? |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:01 AM Author: aphrodisiac knife hominid oh very generous to allow people to meet friends in parks, provided they're wearing masks.
wtf kind of sense does it make to wear a mask outdoors in a park? none whatsoever. you just want to keep the thumb on.
also ljl at golfing you really are a wannabe boomer |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:04 AM Author: tan mischievous ratface ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514886) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:26 AM Author: translucent deep step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515009) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:01 AM Author: Zippy Provocative Becky shut the fuck up faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519921) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:09 AM Author: Wild range ape Or lock all libs down and set them on fire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519946) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 9:48 AM Author: Rusted razzle location weak flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514375) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:01 AM Author: Violent plaza People die, they die of a lot of things, there is one and only one reason COVID should be different, and that is that it is a communicable disease that could tax the health system on spikes leading to unnecessary deaths. Absent that happening or being reasonably likely to happen, we just let it burn through.
If you want to save actual life years, you would be better off banning sugar and corn syrup and cigarettes. If you wanted to save lives, you’d spend billions stopping fent and meth drug trade. |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:15 AM Author: gold cocky gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514949) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:57 PM Author: Odious Azure Shitlib Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515754) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:13 AM Author: Odious Azure Shitlib Trailer Park lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40514943) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 11:53 AM Author: Fluffy crackhouse jew *Sees a disease that literally mostly kills people 1 year or less away from dying*
*Decides prudent thing to do is to ban them from living their life the remaining months* |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:01 PM Author: gold cocky gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515275) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:04 PM Author: aphrodisiac knife hominid by definition anybody who dies from a disease had less than one year to live
state ur logic games score |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:30 PM Author: Fluffy crackhouse jew https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/25/two-thirds-patients-die-coronavirus-would-have-died-year-anyway/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515502) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:49 PM Author: gold cocky gas station wow this is a really dumb post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515680) |
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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:53 PM Author: aphrodisiac knife hominid I guess if the virus takes a year and a day to kill you, but that seems rare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40515712) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:09 AM Author: Wild range ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519949) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 2:09 AM Author: Wild range ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4572566&forum_id=2#40519948) |
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Date: June 30th, 2020 3:07 AM Author: crimson bbw i literally cannot believe there are this many virusbadmos on this forum
what. the. fuck. |