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NYT admits story of 30 year old corona victim saying "trust the media" is hoax

This week, the Times brings us a story from Methodist Hospit...
arrogant range
  07/15/20
reminder: just two months ago public health officials in SE ...
excitant half-breed
  07/15/20
I for one am shocked
Blue beady-eyed persian
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Motley mood
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mind-boggling step-uncle's house circlehead
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Fuck this
nofapping honey-headed theater stage newt
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i saw a post on imgur about this followed by a parade of ret...
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Deranged Partner
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excitant half-breed
  07/15/20
Thank you for your scholarly poast.
cerebral really tough guy
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Credit goes to National Review. I've added the link in the o...
arrogant range
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topaz dilemma macaca
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Trip jet antidepressant drug resort
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GRRRRRRR why is stupid DRUMPF so anti-THIENTHE!!?? GRRRR...
Galvanic nursing home
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what
exhilarant effete therapy station
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tbf its a succinct, apt imitation of the reaction of probabl...
Motley mood
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vibrant institution juggernaut
  07/15/20
agree!
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lol ohnoes, still fat and unemployed?
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(Box cuck)
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juicy asshole, big tet-tets, and she was only like 20 then. ...
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avocado wonderful messiness
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rare correct poast. usu you just a faggot
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grr haha
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donald trump completely blew out my anus
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Upboat Sir!
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The NYT has never been anything but a pompous Jewish hoax, c...
Fluffy crackhouse
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Bateful Copper Rehab Fortuitous Meteor
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Orwell pneumatic tube goes brrrrr
Irradiated Preventive Strike Gaping
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That and the victim is almost certainly an obese Hispanic or...
coral area
  07/15/20
(xo2020 linking unironically to NRO) fuck nyt, but this is ...
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coral area
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Exposing a published article as a complete lie is "weak...
Blue beady-eyed persian
  07/15/20
weakly sourced =/= 'lie'
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(Dr. Appleby)
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Galvanic nursing home
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"weakly" sourced ljl fuck off
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dat source too strong for askav
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Aren't journalists-- especially journalists at the NYTimes--...
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It was a single source and precisely 0% of her story was ver...
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I assume most of the 'content' of the NYTimes us like this. ...
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  07/15/20
*of the media in general
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doesn't matter. the millions that read it will walk away wit...
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My wife saw it on the Today show and believed it. My bros w...
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even if you shoot back with "actually, they retracted i...
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It's frustrating. I have friends who are NYC trumpmos but st...
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This is why it is solid propaganda.
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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:39 AM
Author: arrogant range

This week, the Times brings us a story from Methodist Hospital in San Antonio. The headline is: “Texas Hospital Says Man, 30, Died After Attending a ‘Covid Party,’” and what we get is a story with one source.

The story reveals itself in three paragraphs:

A 30-year-old man who believed the coronavirus was a hoax and attended a “Covid party” died after being infected with the virus, according to the chief medical officer at a Texas hospital.

The official, Dr. Jane Appleby of Methodist Hospital in San Antonio, said the man died after deliberately attending a gathering with an infected person to test whether the coronavirus was real.

In her statements to news organizations, Dr. Appleby said the man had told his nurse that he attended a Covid party. Just before he died, she said the patient told his nurse: “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”

The story has real didactic power in the current environment, illustrating perhaps four points of contention:

1) A young person

2) in a red state

3) believed the virus was a hoax

4) and failed to socially distance.

As a result, he’s dead.

The original sub-headline was: “I thought this was a hoax,” the man told his nurse, a hospital official said.

It’s a morality tale, really. Don’t believe it’s a hoax! Or that you aren’t at risk because you are young! Maybe don’t live in a bad red state where they aren’t taking COVID seriously, or go to these parties. The only thing missing was a MAGA hat and a rueful dying admission, “I shouldn’t have trusted Trump or my Republican governor!”

But, as I read the story originally earlier this week, I realized the details didn’t quite add up. If you believe COVID is a hoax, why would you attend a “Covid Party?” And, in a pandemic for an airborne disease, aren’t all parties potentially COVID parties? Chicken pox parties were aimed at spreading a local infection purposely to younger children who have milder cases. People don’t hold them because they are skeptics. Something doesn’t make sense.

A closer look showed that not only were there no names named, but there was no date or location of the party and no other sources about where and whether it happened. And then there was the curious fact that a dying man’s self-incriminating final words were relayed to the press. Who gave permission for that?

But if you click on the article link now, as I write this, you will find a few paragraphs of hedging added in:

The Times could not independently verify Dr. Appleby’s account. On Monday, the San Antonio health department said its contact tracers did not have any information “that would confirm (or deny)” that such an event had happened there.

In recent days, the hospital distributed video of Dr. Appleby describing the case , along with a press statement. She did not say when or where the party took place, how many people attended or how long afterward the man was hospitalized with Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. She said she was sharing the story to warn others, especially in Texas, where cases are surging.

These paragraphs were added long after publication. They also indicate where the story originated. The young junior reporter who wrote it isn’t in Texas but sitting at a desk, presumably at home. There is also another additional paragraph saying that the Times tried several times, through the hospital, to contact the dead man’s family.

You might also note the entirely different sub-headline: “Health experts have been skeptical that such parties occur, and details of this case could not be independently confirmed.”

In fact, the story seems to have changed several times since publication, in order to salvage the Times’s own credibility. The story has been transformed, edit by edit, from one of a man who died by taking a foolish risk in which the doctor was the only source, to a story about the questionable claim a doctor is making. There are no editor’s notes on it documenting the changes in the published story and the huge tonal shift from credulousness to skepticism.

A number of young journalists have been arguing lately that the traditional mission of journalism needs to be cashiered in favor of “moral clarity,” that journalism should be more like activism. What we have in this story is an example of where that leads us. The “moral clarity” was all there. It told a literal “cautionary moral tale.” But, the reporting and editing have lacked all the traditional ethics of the trade of journalism. The result looks to me like fake news and a disgraceful attempt at memory-holing the evidence.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/did-the-times-print-an-urban-legend/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610947)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:37 AM
Author: excitant half-breed

reminder: just two months ago public health officials in SE Washington made up a similar hoax

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/us/coronavirus-covid-parties.html

Covid-19 Parties’ Probably Didn’t Involve Intentional Spread

County health officials in Washington State walked back earlier claims that young people were gathering in a deliberate attempt to be exposed to the coronavirus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611434)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:48 AM
Author: Blue beady-eyed persian

I for one am shocked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610967)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:58 AM
Author: Motley mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610984)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 6:52 PM
Author: mind-boggling step-uncle's house circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40614168)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:52 AM
Author: nofapping honey-headed theater stage newt

Fuck this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610974)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:53 AM
Author: Onyx haunted graveyard center

i saw a post on imgur about this followed by a parade of retarded faggots smugly commenting and posting memes.

sick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610977)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:17 AM
Author: Deranged Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611224)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:21 AM
Author: Frozen field mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611235)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:27 AM
Author: excitant half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611393)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:56 AM
Author: cerebral really tough guy

Thank you for your scholarly poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610982)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:58 AM
Author: arrogant range

Credit goes to National Review. I've added the link in the original post. I stopped adding links and just paste text most of the time now because people complain when there's a paywall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40610985)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:20 AM
Author: topaz dilemma macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611230)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:20 AM
Author: Trip jet antidepressant drug resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611361)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:24 AM
Author: Galvanic nursing home

GRRRRRRR why is stupid DRUMPF so anti-THIENTHE!!??

GRRRR GRRRR why does stupid clown DRUMPF administration continually put ESPERTEETH under ATTACK!!??

GRRR GRRR GRRR why can't DRUMPF just cede commander-in-chief responsibilities to DR FAUCI and do whatever he says until November??!!

THE THIENTHE ITH THETTLED!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611065)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:08 AM
Author: exhilarant effete therapy station

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611126)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:20 AM
Author: Motley mood

tbf its a succinct, apt imitation of the reaction of probably 75% of NYT subscribers who read this story so get off your high horse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611133)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:17 AM
Author: vibrant institution juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611572)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:23 AM
Author: Galvanic nursing home

agree!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611138)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:24 AM
Author: Supple factory reset button

lol ohnoes, still fat and unemployed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611139)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:44 AM
Author: Blue beady-eyed persian

(Box cuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611276)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:15 AM
Author: avocado wonderful messiness

juicy asshole, big tet-tets, and she was only like 20 then. don't play' h8.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611347)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:53 AM
Author: avocado wonderful messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611299)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:16 AM
Author: lime parlor trump supporter

rare correct poast. usu you just a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611569)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:22 PM
Author: sepia multi-colored masturbator double fault

grr haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612492)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:36 PM
Author: Arousing Chestnut Lay

donald trump completely blew out my anus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612581)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 6:53 PM
Author: mind-boggling step-uncle's house circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40614172)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 6:53 PM
Author: mind-boggling step-uncle's house circlehead

Upboat Sir!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40614173)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:14 AM
Author: Fluffy crackhouse

The NYT has never been anything but a pompous Jewish hoax, complete with constantly awarding itself the perfectly worthless ‘Pulitzer Prizes’(lol). Every article is propaganda, and the readers are a sect. A Jewish shithouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611130)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:33 AM
Author: Bateful Copper Rehab Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611254)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:20 AM
Author: Irradiated Preventive Strike Gaping

Orwell pneumatic tube goes brrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611134)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:25 AM
Author: coral area

That and the victim is almost certainly an obese Hispanic or black guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611238)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:31 AM
Author: Opaque judgmental karate national

(xo2020 linking unironically to NRO)

fuck nyt, but this is yet another weaksauce 'takedown' from NRO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611250)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:45 AM
Author: Narrow-minded chartreuse background story kitty cat

(Oliver Darcy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611277)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:52 AM
Author: coral area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611297)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:52 AM
Author: Blue beady-eyed persian

Exposing a published article as a complete lie is "weak" ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611296)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:54 AM
Author: Opaque judgmental karate national

weakly sourced =/= 'lie'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611300)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:09 AM
Author: Blue beady-eyed persian

(Dr. Appleby)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611335)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:09 AM
Author: Galvanic nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611337)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:10 AM
Author: Aqua razzle love of her life

"weakly" sourced ljl fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611338)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:23 AM
Author: comical garnet wagecucks

(Sabrina Erdely)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611373)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:23 AM
Author: Aqua razzle love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611376)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:33 AM
Author: hyperactive selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611417)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:29 AM
Author: excitant half-breed

dat source too strong for askav

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611399)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:58 AM
Author: exciting scarlet hospital

Aren't journalists-- especially journalists at the NYTimes-- supposed to vet their stories. Particularly stories regarding a pandemic where misinformation could lead to irrational behavior?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611508)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:07 AM
Author: diverse blathering theatre private investor

It was a single source and precisely 0% of her story was verified. Think of all the people involved: Hospital staff who treated him, his family, friends from the party, etc. Not a single one verified any of this. But let's print it as TRUTH anyway because the narrative is the most important thing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611538)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:15 AM
Author: excitant half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611348)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:00 AM
Author: Arousing Chestnut Lay

"trust the most retarded Jews in the world and their rich parents"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611514)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:09 AM
Author: chrome toilet seat corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611546)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:21 AM
Author: Amethyst bespoke queen of the night

I assume most of the 'content' of the NYTimes us like this. You should too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611590)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:05 PM
Author: Glassy Pea-brained Internal Respiration Pit

*of the media in general

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40615248)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:43 AM
Author: bearded vigorous stead ceo

doesn't matter. the millions that read it will walk away with the original story being the "truth". objective journalism is done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611650)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:25 AM
Author: exciting scarlet hospital

My wife saw it on the Today show and believed it.

My bros who I play cards with believed it.

It is fucking infuriating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40611833)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:20 PM
Author: bearded vigorous stead ceo

even if you shoot back with "actually, they retracted it/altered the story/etc" they just go "huh".

people want to consume news that confirms their biases. they'll still walk away thinking fraudvirusmos are idiots. and they'll probably get mildly angry npc suspicious that you did enough research to find out the story was bullshit. if you're not accepting the narrative and dogma unquestioningly you're probably an enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612476)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:24 PM
Author: arrogant range

It's frustrating. I have friends who are NYC trumpmos but still bash the southern states for "doing worse" and supposedly being mouth breathing retards. Meanwhile NY deaths per capita are still leagues above any other state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612503)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:35 PM
Author: bearded vigorous stead ceo

northeastern elitism as a real thing. whenever i rant about federalism/roe i ask why people in other states should have the ability to tell people in southern states what to do. 99% of the time the answer has a paternalistic tinge of "if we don't they would be backwards hicks". it's like white man's burden against the south.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612574)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:23 PM
Author: Trip jet antidepressant drug resort

This is why it is solid propaganda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585401&forum_id=2#40612498)