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Polyandry seems like a good solution to China's one-child problems

Two-husband strategy may be a remedy for China’s one-c...
Talented milk black woman
  08/07/20
how does that make more kids or whatever? i don't understand...
Lime Stain
  08/07/20
God clearly has something against Asian men
Costumed field
  08/07/20
Presumably each husband will secure a child of his own.
Talented milk black woman
  08/07/20
i assume each guy would want their "own" baby... b...
Diverse filthpig giraffe
  08/07/20
The men would have to step up their game, that's for sure. ...
grizzly bespoke dopamine library
  08/07/20
just end your life
clear indecent school
  08/07/20
The person who wrote that would be imprisoned in China, just...
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  08/07/20
He's in Australia now I think He also did a lot of work on...
grizzly bespoke dopamine library
  08/07/20
Interesting. I've often thought about a concept called "...
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  08/07/20
I'm retarded.
grizzly bespoke dopamine library
  08/07/20
sub-optimal tactics to lead to an optimal strategy. interest...
Lime Stain
  08/07/20
It’s all about figuring out what is actually suboptima...
Maroon macaca box office
  08/07/20
Yeah, I feel like there is a strong evolutionary biology-bas...
Jade Crackhouse Blood Rage
  08/07/20
seems like the way to frame it is that a truly optimized sys...
Drab Cocky Sanctuary Roast Beef
  08/07/20
The only functional polyandry in history has been levirate m...
Dun Bateful Home Gunner
  08/07/20
"Yew-Kwang Ng, who is Malaysian" lol, Mr. (((Ng...
Dun Bateful Home Gunner
  08/07/20
Levirite marriage was sequential, though, right, and only to...
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  08/07/20
is china still doing that one-child thing? id like to see th...
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  09/28/20
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Talented milk black woman
  05/06/21
Any videos of this actually being implemented?
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grizzly bespoke dopamine library
  05/06/21
MMM threesomes sound like an even better solution
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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:44 AM
Author: Talented milk black woman

Two-husband strategy may be a remedy for China’s one-child policy, professor posits

Couples at a mass wedding ceremony in Sanya, on China’s southern Hainan Island, on June 6. The one-child policy has left China with a severe gender imbalance.

Couples at a mass wedding ceremony in Sanya, on China’s southern Hainan Island, on June 6. The one-child policy has left China with a severe gender imbalance. (AFP/Getty Images)

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Anna Fifield

June 10, 2020 at 6:21 a.m. EDT

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Chinese authorities have been trying for three years to reverse the devastating imbalances of their one-child policy and coax couples to have more children.

They’ve told couples that it’s their patriotic duty to have two babies. They’ve dangled tax breaks and housing subsidies. They’ve offered to make education cheaper and parental leave longer. They’ve tried to make it more difficult to get an abortion or a divorce.

None of this has worked. China’s birthrate remains stubbornly low and men greatly outnumber women, creating a demographic crisis that could hinder economic growth for decades to come.

But now, an economics professor at Fudan University in Shanghai has come up with another — and, unsurprisingly, controversial — solution: Allow women to have multiple husbands, and they will have multiple babies.

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“I wouldn’t suggest polyandry if the gender ratio was not so severely imbalanced,” Yew-Kwang Ng, who is Malaysian, wrote in his regular column on a Chinese business website this month. The headline asked: “Is polyandry really a ridiculous idea?”

“I’m not advocating for polyandry, I’m just suggesting that we should consider the option in the face of an imbalanced gender ratio,” he continued.

Beijing’s one-child policy is gone. But many Chinese are still reluctant to have more.

For 36 years, China’s ruling Communist Party stipulated that couples could have only one child except in special circumstances, such as if they lived in a rural area and their first child was a girl or a boy with disabilities. It was part of a strategy to boost China’s growth rate and its living standards at the same time.

The policy worked too well. In China today, home to 1.4 billion people, there are 100 million people under the age of 40 who are an only child. But the traditional preference for sons — and the associated practice of aborting daughters — means that there are about 34 million more men than women.

That in itself is a big problem. But add into the mix a tendency among millennial women to delay marriage and having even one baby — or none at all — and it’s a demographic time bomb.

China’s population is forecast to peak at 1.45 billion as soon as 2027, then start a long decline. About one-third of the population will be over the age of 65 by 2050.

In 2015, the Communist Party started unwinding the one-child policy, but it has had almost no impact. Women increasingly want careers of their own, and many would rather channel their energy into giving one child a good start in life than split their resources between two.

Meet Bai Shaofeng, a Beijing bachelor looking for love

Shaofeng’s problem — one faced by millions of his countrymen — is a product of cultural preferences, government decree and modern medical technology. (Lu Liu/for The Washington Post)

Enter Professor Ng.

His suggestion to solve the oversupply of men is to allow involuntary bachelors — known as “bare branches” in Chinese because they cannot bear fruit for their family tree — to share the relatively scarce supply of women.

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“If two men are willing to marry the same wife and the woman is willing, too, what reason does society have to stop them sharing a wife?” Ng asked, citing polygamy as a common custom in ancient times and a continuing practice in some strains of Islam.

In China and India, men outnumber women on a massive scale

“I’m not denying the advantages of monogamy here, such as how exclusive long-term relationships can benefit kids’ growth and education,” Ng wrote in his column, according to the website SupChina, which first reported in English about the controversial remarks. “But given China’s skewed sex ratio, it’s necessary to consider allowing polyandry legally.”

Plus, it would just be more efficient, he continued, suggesting that women would have no trouble meeting the physical needs of multiple husbands.

“It’s common for prostitutes to serve more than 10 clients in a day,” Ng wrote, before taking off on another offensive tangent. “Making meals for three husbands won’t take much more time than for two husbands,” he added.

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Ng’s column went viral on the Chinese Internet. And many women on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, were unimpressed.

“It made me throw up,” wrote a woman calling herself Keely, asking why Ng didn’t put himself in the woman’s shoes.

“I’m shocked by what he says. Is it 2020 now?” asked Fuduoduo.

“Let me translate what he means: he wants to legalize sex slaves,” said another.

Ng is steeling for a fight. He wrote that his next column aimed at redressing gender imbalances would be about legalizing brothels.

Because China’s gender mismatch has caused a fierce competition among men looking for wives, he said, “a man’s right to achieving sexual satisfaction is being severely violated if legal sex work is not allowed.”

Legalizing sex work and building more brothels would allow men to attend to their “urgent needs,” he wrote.

Stand by for more outrage on Weibo, and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719450)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:46 AM
Author: Lime Stain

how does that make more kids or whatever? i don't understand how a bull, a duck and a lady leads to more population than a regular m-f couple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719457)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: Costumed field

God clearly has something against Asian men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719487)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: Talented milk black woman

Presumably each husband will secure a child of his own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719515)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: Diverse filthpig giraffe

i assume each guy would want their "own" baby... but of course if each guy doesnt view the other baby as their own, then the relatinonship and everything will go to shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719517)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:00 AM
Author: grizzly bespoke dopamine library

The men would have to step up their game, that's for sure.

It's not ideal but there are a lot of miserable "dead branches" out there who are hating life right now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719529)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 8:13 PM
Author: clear indecent school

just end your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40721884)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 10:58 AM
Author: Maroon macaca box office

The person who wrote that would be imprisoned in China, justifiably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719523)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:01 AM
Author: grizzly bespoke dopamine library

He's in Australia now I think

He also did a lot of work on Second-Best Solution in economics. Probably will have increasing significance as AI starts to run shit at higher levels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719535)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:04 AM
Author: Maroon macaca box office

Interesting. I've often thought about a concept called "Permissive Inefficiency" - basically how in the modern era economic systems benefit from a degree of inefficiency because that helps produce more labor demand as well as redundancy against catastrophic events (COVID-19 is a great case, with all our Pharma and PPE production being outsourced to China highlighting the importance of having capacity in the US - even if it is unused or suboptimal 99% of the time)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719557)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:04 AM
Author: grizzly bespoke dopamine library

I'm retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719563)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 11:09 AM
Author: Lime Stain

sub-optimal tactics to lead to an optimal strategy. interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40719581)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 8:10 PM
Author: Maroon macaca box office

It’s all about figuring out what is actually suboptimal and the degree of externalities that occur as a result of policy action. Globalism is probably optimal for a certain class of people but is suboptimal for most others. Economics would argue that if the most profit is generated its a good thing but long term the externalities that occur on the second and third order could exceed the savings of the initial optimization action.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40721875)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 8:49 PM
Author: Jade Crackhouse Blood Rage

Yeah, I feel like there is a strong evolutionary biology-based case for less “economic efficiency.”

Economic efficiency, in the eyes of a biologist, seems akin to ecological specialization, wherein an organism evolves traits that are highly specialized to the environment it lives in. While those traits help it outcompete other organisms while the environment remains stable, when the environment shifts, those traits quickly become maladaptations.

Outsourcing our medical procurements to China worked when times were good, but once COVID struck, it’s easy to see how stupid it was.

The tragedy is that evolutionary specialization, like economic efficiency, is a necessity. An organism that fails to adapt to its surroundings will be outcompeted in the short run by organisms that do, even if in the long term it is a maladaptation. A single earner household in the 90s had to either adapt to a dual earner system or face poverty. But once dual earner households became commonplace, having two incomes no longer offered an increase in quality of life over the single earners of a generation before, it was just a requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40722008)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 9:13 PM
Author: Drab Cocky Sanctuary Roast Beef

seems like the way to frame it is that a truly optimized system has a certain degree of resilience. if predictable (in general, not in terms of specific events - include severe supply chain disruptions, even major ones like those caused by covid, exclude planet killer asteroids) shocks cause a system to operate far enough below optimum for a short period of time or suboptimally for a long enough time, then that system is not actually optimized once you look at the actual total production under real world circumstances rather than just assuming the theoretical maximum is the unicorn to chase. from there it’s just about identifying the right variables to make resilient + having the best models to accurately predict which and how many shocks you’ll see over a certain time period

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40722085)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 8:36 PM
Author: Dun Bateful Home Gunner

The only functional polyandry in history has been levirate marriage, by which brothers share a wife (as in the legal hypo posed to Jesus by the Sadducees).

China's population, of late, has lacked in brothers. Generally, even rural families tend to stop breeding after one son, because the lopsided gender ratio makes bride-price expensive for men seeking marriage.

I don't see how this works, other than in the conventional way polyandry works in societies which don't codify it: divorce/widowhood and marrying another man's sloppy seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40721970)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: Dun Bateful Home Gunner

"Yew-Kwang Ng, who is Malaysian"

lol, Mr. (((Ng))), lemme stop you right there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40721976)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 9:38 PM
Author: grizzly bespoke dopamine library

Levirite marriage was sequential, though, right, and only to produce an heir if the older brother dies before begetting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40722189)



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Date: August 7th, 2020 9:15 PM
Author: fluffy snowy theater

is china still doing that one-child thing? id like to see them change it to zero-child per couple if possble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#40722098)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 4:42 PM
Author: Talented milk black woman



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Date: September 28th, 2020 4:49 PM
Author: clear indecent school

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#41003576)



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Date: May 6th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: Talented milk black woman



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Date: May 6th, 2021 10:22 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle self-centered community account

Any videos of this actually being implemented?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#42411482)



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Date: May 6th, 2021 11:40 AM
Author: grizzly bespoke dopamine library



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Date: May 6th, 2021 11:48 AM
Author: Fighting chrome partner sweet tailpipe

MMM threesomes sound like an even better solution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4599279&forum_id=2#42412021)



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Date: November 23rd, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: Talented milk black woman



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