That's the reasoning, I think, when someone prissy cries about "it's not fair"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40728389)

It's like, lemme tell ya buddy, you having roads to drive on is "not fair" to me bc I'm so rich I fly everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40729261)

Forgiving, or otherwise dis-burdening, student loans is a move that disproportionately rewards irresponsible debtors while simultaneously punishing responsible and forward-thinking people. This is not some step forward in technological innovation. This is not a rising tide that floats all boats. This is minimizing the consequences faced by those who make bad decisions, and it's a slap across the face to the prudent workers who made responsible decisions in the process.

Imagine you were buying a car, and you scrimped and saved to come up with the down payment. You did your research and settled on a car that met your needs at a price you can afford. But some retard in your HS went out and bought a lambo on credit, which he could neither use nor afford. Would you fall for some argument about how "all car debt needs to be forgiven because we all need cars" or some bullshit like that? No, you'd say "fuck that guy, and repo his car; it just leaves the roads less crowded for the responsible people."

So why should someone who passed on going to their first choice of college (or had to pass on college altogether) pay taxes to forgive the deadbeat who pissed away his college degree? Especially when that guy, once his student loans are forgiven, is just going to turn around and put his newfound financial freedom to work competing with you to buy a house? In fact, the guy is probably going to do the same thing to the house as he did to his college degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40730502)

It shocks me how many of my intelligent friends (borderline former friends) continue to straw man the anti-blanket-forgiveness position as “I had to suffer, so should you.”

Absent truly extenuating circumstances, if you borrow public funds and do not repay them, then you are stealing from the public.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40732015)

Loan forgiveness also gives a complete pass to the schools, who are free to issue worthless degrees carte blanche, and to loan originators, who just pass the risk on to the DOE and take their cut of free money in the process. These are the two parties who are, in my opinion, most responsible for the current debt crisis. They should not be able to wash their hands of this mess and walk away without consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40733376)

at some point, the shitlibs will realize they got fucked and they will have to teach their children about financial responsibility.

that will result in all of the bullshit social justice degrees getting removed from the curriculum.

okay, not all, but you get the point.

you want to have some bullshit degree? then you should not have to pay as much and the teachers who teach it should not earn as much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40730198)

Surely I can't be the only one here who remembers the howls of outrage back in 2008 when some Dem politicians proposed forgiveness for mortgages. They were going to bail out "struggling homeowners," ie speculators who had spectacularly overspent, at the expense of those who had made prudent financial decisions. Imagine buying a house in an affordable neighborhood and paying down the mortgage, only to see some minimum wage immigrant who lied on her mortgage application to buy a million dollar mansion get the house for free. This student loan nonsense is the same thing all over again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40730604)

Making student debts discharge-able in bankruptcy is what I always counter-propose to the forgiveness crowd. In addition to being discharge-able, there should be clawback provisions that allow the government to reclaim a portion of the principal from the schools that issued worthless degrees. At a personal level, it seems insane to me that this country can simultaneously have Facebook/Google/Microsoft clamoring for H1-B visas because there (supposedly) aren't enough qualified workers in their lucrative fields and have half of 18-34 year olds near financial ruin because of their education.

The true creators of this financial mess are the schools, who kept inflating tuition as free money became available, and the originators who originated loans knowing full well that they didn't have to care about the creditworthiness of the debtors since the Feds would carry the risk. On a forward going basis, the DOE should stop carrying the principal of the student loans on their balance sheet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40733281)

Every person who's taken out student loan debt should receive a forgiveness payment clawed back from the personal estates of university admins, profs, student loan providers, etc. These parasites shouldn't be let off without punishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40734251)

I will feel like an idiot if we have some kind of forgiveness and I miss out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4600329&forum_id=2#40728359)