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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:45 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754746) |
Date: August 14th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: stirring property black woman Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754754) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:47 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor Is his personhood an essential property or a contingent property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754760) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: talking becky not a doctrine of divine simplicity guy eh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754799) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:57 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor dont catholics think that all of god's essence is contained in each of his energies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754817) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:00 AM Author: talking becky energies talk is eastern and associated with gregory of palamas.
the doctrine of divine simplicity is western and eastern and basically says that there’s no distinction between gods essence and his properties. at least that’s a modern/analytical way of conceptualizing it. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:07 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor i think that's why i converted out of orthodoxy. the essence/energy distinction is unsatisfactory to me. to say God is ultimately unknowable is just so mehhhhh
now that i think about it, there seems to be a serious objection to that kind of mysterianism about God, namely, how did Christ die to reconcile us with God if God is ultimately unknowable? |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:13 AM Author: talking becky I am very fond of orthodox theology especially patristics but the palamite stuff is all questionable. agree totally. too much authority given to neoplatonist thought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755270) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: Thriller Silver Liquid Oxygen Mother I do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754757) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:51 AM Author: hairraiser gold sandwich circlehead Yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754784) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: lime stain locus the collective societal brain is your God. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754787) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor (durkheim) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754791) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: massive marketing idea crotch nope! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754788) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:53 AM Author: Vibrant weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754796) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: house-broken box office youre going to need to define what you mean by "God" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754805) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: Bronze insecure stage Evidence doesn't look good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754806) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:02 AM Author: abusive amethyst voyeur https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=waziKjv_2qU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754841) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression there's some highly dubious historical evidence for some Iron Age religious fanatics having been killed for their beliefs, so I don't see how you can say no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40754976) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:34 AM Author: house-broken box office you think order emerges spontaneously from chaos? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755020) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:35 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression maybe some sort of order just always existed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755026) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:36 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor i see you've thought about this deeply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755028) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:36 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression as deeply as needed for your god-of-the-gaps argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755034) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor consciousness sure is just a temporary gap in naturalism - surely we'll crack that physical process soon enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755035) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:39 AM Author: house-broken box office 2 weeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755041) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:39 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression you're right, it makes far more sense that consciousness just exists because of magic and has no process behind it whatsoever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755043) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor do you understand the problem of consciousness? if so, could you briefly describe its intractability? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755069) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:45 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression could you briefly describe how it bears directly on the question posed by the OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755075) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:46 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor so the answer appears to be no, no worries man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755083) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:47 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression i take it the answer to my question appears to be no. all good pumbro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755088) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:49 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor that's not really how conversations work. if i pose a question to you, and you fail to respond and instead ask your own question, its a clear case of disingenuous sophistry. conversations proceed according to turns - you're just trying to skip my turn. are you a youngest child in the family by chance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755092) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression i'm just not really interested in having some drawn-out debate about the problem of consciousness. but if you want to skip the sneering about naturalism and tie it back to the question posed by the OP, feel free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755117) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:55 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor weird angry reply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755132) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:55 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression oh yeah, just completely apoplectic. yosemite sam fuming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755135) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:49 AM Author: Shaky doctorate son of senegal isn't what we think of as consciousness just a bunch of chemical reactions in are brains? so, it could have been designed and built by an engineer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755094) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:50 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor no, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755102) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:51 AM Author: Shaky doctorate son of senegal where can i read and learn more about the part i was wrong about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755110) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:54 AM Author: fear-inspiring crystalline private investor the closest theory to the physicalism you propose that still admits the categorical difference of mental states is non-reductive physicalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mind#Non-reductive_physicalism
there are a myriad of other philosophies of mind that also admit the categorical difference without being physicalist monists: dualism, neutral monism and idealism are the broad categories. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:55 AM Author: Shaky doctorate son of senegal ty pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755136) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:13 AM Author: house-broken box office 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755273) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:50 AM Author: self-centered candlestick maker native Lol man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755105) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:55 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression poasters on this site make this exact argument, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755133) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:11 AM Author: talking becky I think it’s pretty reasonable to say the historical evidence for Jesus’s resurrection is compelling to you as a personal matter and that this is at least partially a grounds for your Christian faith. some of the arguments are only convincing at all if you already buy the story but I don’t think they’re all quite as poor as your dismissive tone.
as for belief in God generally we’re talking about something else. of course there’s the occasional apologist who acts like the evidence for Jesus’s resurrection is so compelling to the objective observer that it ought to make everyone a god believer but I don’t think many people even of the type of people who are “into apologetics” think that. I don’t think that’s what teddy b et al are saying when they talk about the martyrs as grounding their faith. they’re talking specifically about their belief in a literal resurrection |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:52 AM Author: self-centered candlestick maker native What argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755473) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:40 AM Author: Bronze insecure stage Wasn't Charles a huge Godmo? Why would God do this to him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755045) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: vengeful twinkling indirect expression (Hagar the Horrible)
why not? |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:49 AM Author: Bronze insecure stage What's the point of believing in something that screws you over? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755096) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: house-broken box office why did God make Charles out himself to win MPM? wd will never know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755054) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 10:43 AM Author: dashing heaven pisswyrm Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755062) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:09 AM Author: Transparent Razzle-dazzle House Filthpig The deist clockmaker god, maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755243) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:11 AM Author: Wild chocolate meetinghouse nibblets It doesn't actually matter and religious is important regardless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755257) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 11:42 AM Author: lime stain locus no, just a really good sim programmer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755405) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 12:14 PM Author: 180 frozen therapy Without faith there can be no God.
If you absolutely knew there was a God then you wouldn't need God. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 12:19 PM Author: lime stain locus (antonius block) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755658) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 12:14 PM Author: green greedy giraffe ya man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755622) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: nubile water buffalo If he does not and we do, are we god? If we are god but god doesn't exist, do we exist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40755632) |
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Date: August 15th, 2020 12:56 AM Author: Wild chocolate meetinghouse nibblets No. N/A. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40758759) |
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Date: August 15th, 2020 1:01 AM Author: Ruddy irradiated trust fund how else do you think Her lost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603592&forum_id=2#40758775) |