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Poll: You can throw a 104 mph fastball OR a curveball that breaks up
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:17 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Curveball actually defies physics. Fastball is just fast. You can throw like 50 of these pitches per night on command. Which do you choose? Edit: Assume that all of these pitches wind up in the batter's strike zone. No wild pitches in your 50. Second Edit: You are essentially Garrit Cole, plus you either have a gravity/physics defying breaking ball OR you have a 104mph fast ball. Either of these specialty pitches are on command, good for 50 pitches a night, and you have 90% laser point accuracy with them. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Stirring spot nibblets So I can't make the curve break out of the zone even if I want to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756982) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy That's a good point. You can do whatever the fuck you want with the curve. But if the batter is seeing a slow pitch and has trained himself not to swing, you're going to need to be able to hit the box. But yeah, outside of your 50, you can let it fly way outside if that's what you want to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756989) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:57 PM Author: Stirring spot nibblets I'd think the most dangerous pitch would be one that looks like it's hanging in the middle of the zone and does a sharp 3 foot break out of the zone at the last second. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757013) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:59 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy However you want to throw it. But I'm telling you. If you were a lethal killer. They would be wary of any slow pitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757020) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:00 PM Author: Stirring spot nibblets Sure, but if I get to control whether it breaks into the zone or out of the zone, they can't just lay off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757023) |
Date: August 14th, 2020 4:18 PM Author: Clear Aphrodisiac Preventive Strike Hissy Fit 104 mph fast ball. i assume the defying physics curveball will snap my wrist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756809) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: hyperventilating nursing home 104mph fastball definitely won't wreck your arms or shoulder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756821) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: Clear Aphrodisiac Preventive Strike Hissy Fit of course not. i assume i can throw in the 80's still. not accurately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756844) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Sienna Stain 104 MPH fastball
I'll take the curveball if I also i have a few other good pitches. But if all i'm bringing to the table is my own 65 MPH fastball and a curveball that breaks up, single A bottom of the lineup hitters are going to be hitting home runs every at bat. Or is there no scouting in this hypo? |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy I mean, just assume that every other pitch is at the level of what Garrit Cole throws. Your specialty is either your fast ball or your curve ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756830) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Racy hell this makes the fastball a no-brainer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756837) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Sienna Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756903) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:48 PM Author: rusted bonkers area Yeah, I'll go with slightly better than the highest paid pitcher in baseball too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756975) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Adventurous international law enforcement agency fastball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756835) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Bossy Son Of Senegal Trust Fund fastball and i'm the second coming of lee smith (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756840) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Brindle keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756842) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy This is the camp I fall into. Might make it harder to actually get to MLB, but once there you could dominate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756847) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:28 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy I mean, even if the ball is only coming in at 75mph. It looks like it's in the dirt and then all of a sudden, defies physics, jumps up, and crosses the plate on the upper inside of the batter's strike zone. It'd be lethal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756860) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:28 PM Author: Dull scourge upon the earth water buffalo If all you've got is 104mph heat, you will get rocked. See Chapman in 2016 World Series. Crazy curveball like that would be dominant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756857) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Adventurous international law enforcement agency Counterpoint: Aroldis Chapman is still a dominant closer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756880) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: Racy hell fuck my ass. maddon tried to give that series away and the faggot rain handed the cubs a ring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756898) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:42 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry This is insanely wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756944) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: Dull scourge upon the earth water buffalo Straight heat w no movement and no offspeed pitch = shit. MLB hitters can catch up. Whereas masterful control of breaking stuff = Maddux. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757045) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 6:24 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry The logical reasoning here is terrible. 104 Consistently, even straight, is going to get people out consistently. That has nothing to do with maddux at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757321) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: Boyish plaza Can I locate the fastball well? Edit: nm Answer is fastball obv |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy This is a good caveat. Yeah. To make it even. Assume you can put the fastball in whatever spot you want. Including hitting all four corners of the box with 90%+ accuracy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756879) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Boyish plaza This would make me the best pitcher in MLB. Coupled with an off speed pitch, I would be devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756905) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Sienna Stain That alone makes you the most dominant pitcher in history..... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756906) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy We are literally talking about supernatural powers ITT, so yeah, that is the point. The question is, what route would you take to get there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756918) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Adventurous international law enforcement agency Chicks dig the high heat
see also: Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy To be totally fair, if you're going to assume that much control for an impossible curve ball, you have to assume deadly, assassin like control over the fast ball too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756899) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: flushed wagecucks Probably the fastball, I don’t like baseball so this seems the most useful in everyday life: home defense, playing fetch with the dog, absolutely humiliating my wife at skee ball at dave & buster’s, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756911) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:47 PM Author: Sadistic cruise ship queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756967) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:36 PM Author: Slimy box office masturbator if everything else is gerrit cole level, give me the curve. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756914) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:39 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy titmfcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756926) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Sound Barrier Theatre If I can consistently throw a 104mph fastball then I can be a MLB pitcher. If I can consistently throw a curveball then that doesn't mean shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756916) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy You don't have to consistently throw 104mph to make the MLB brother. That is God level. The standards are much lower. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Sound Barrier Theatre I agree. My point is just that under the hypo, one of these makes me a rich MLB pitcher and the other doesn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756928) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:43 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy I think if you're a starter who can get like 20+ outs a night without a hit then you'll do just fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756950) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 6:36 PM Author: Shimmering boltzmann indirect expression Convincing a team to even sign you is the hard part though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757343) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry lol at guys above citing shitty little league coaches saying that throwing hard doesn't matter. If you throw 104 for 50 pitches a night and throw strikes you have a job making millions of dollars for 15-20 years.
The best curveball in the world doesn't get you seen by an mlb scout ever if you throw 72 mph. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: Adventurous international law enforcement agency "It's just timing"
...he lisped, flailing wildly at the high heat blowing past him |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:41 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry This is one of the best fucking lies that baseball is eradicating. Kids should be training every day to throw the ball as hard as possible and not worry about anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756939) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:44 PM Author: Adventurous international law enforcement agency Cr.
If you have a plus plus fastball that you can locate, worst case you are an MLB reliever for a decade plus |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry Even if you can't locate. I remember reading an interview with Chipper jones from years ago. He said look, if someone throws triple digits, my only possible hope is that they make a mistake over the middle of the plate and even then, it's tough.
If you throw 104 and can throw the ball in the strike zone 70% of the time you're a millionaire for a long time. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy You have to assume that if you choose the curve ball (or the fast ball for that matter) every other pitch you throw is at the level of what Garrit Cole throws. There's no question you make it to the MLB no matter which route you go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756962) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:47 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry lol, wait a second. So I'm Gerrit Cole with either an extra 5 MPH or I'm Gerrit Cole with some kind of breaking ball that man doesn't understand?
That's a really differeny hypo. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Yes, this is the hypo. Precisely. You are very succinct, sir! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756978) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry You really need to edit the OP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756983) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:54 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy It evolved on me. I can tell you this, the original poast did not think through all of the permutations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757001) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:58 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry There are a lot of really interesting baseball hypos due to the fact that professional baseball is never going to look at people that don't hit the ball really far or throw the ball ridiculously hard, regardless of how "good" they are at baseball.
So hypos like guy who throws 70 mph but nobody can hit him, or the ability to hit ground balls threw the hole always to a .400 average regardless of opposing pitcher are really interesting. BEcause there's a question of if those people ever get a shot. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:00 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Agreed. Baseball is a kooky and fun. Like golf. I love it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757024) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: rusted bonkers area That guy would play college ball and/or definitely get a try in the minors.
20 years ago, maybe not, but the statheads are in charge now and eventually you can't argue with the stats. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:29 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry Stat heads aren’t judging guys at lower levels on stats. Unless you’re considering exit velo/spin rate/velocity stats.
That’s the problem. It’s getting to a level where the stats matter. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:44 PM Author: Sadistic cruise ship queen of the night With perfect accuracy for the 50 pitches, the fast ball all the way. You would be the most sought after bullpen arm in baseball.
A well placed fastball is one of the best pitches in baseball. At 104, could be damn near impossible to hit. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:48 PM Author: rusted bonkers area Do I have any other pitches? If no, the curveball.
If I can throw a mediocre change-up then fastball. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:48 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Every other pitch you have is what Garrit Cole throws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756974) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: rusted bonkers area Well then I choose to be slightly better than Gerrit Cole.
Although if you go physics defying curveball with Gerrit Cole's fastball, that would be a more interesting pitcher. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry With the added explanation that everything else I have is Gerrit Cole level (who throws 98-100). I'm adding the physics defying breaking ball.
If the hypo were take what you have and add either physics changing breaking ball or 104mph fastball, I'd take the fastball and my wrinkle would be my low 70s breaking stuff I use on my own. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: Sadistic cruise ship queen of the night Would you even need to throw anything else with that fastball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756995) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:55 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry You could be extremely successful with only 104. 100+ some breaking pitch nobody else has ever thrown and you're probably the best pitcher ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757005) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:52 PM Author: Bright thriller sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756990) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: rusted bonkers area (Dock Ellis) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756996) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:57 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Fuck no. You can throw a ball that looks like its a full foot outside and then 6 yards out from the plate it just jumps up and across into the inside corner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757010) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: rusted bonkers area Funniest part of this thread is all the guys with low-70s arm strength. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40756994) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:54 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry If you're an adult man who hasn't played baseball in a while and isn't doing any kind of throwing program, low 70s is top 20% of adult men. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757003) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:56 PM Author: rusted bonkers area That's what I'm saying. If you can locate it in the strike zone 80 percent of the time you're top 1-2 percent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757006) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:56 PM Author: trip poppy becky faggotry haha oh ok, I thought you were doing the xoxo thing thinking that standard adult men are throwing mid 80s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757008) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: Slimy box office masturbator titclmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757034) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 4:59 PM Author: Gaped Exhilarant Chapel so you can just turn on the 104 fastball locate it high and tight. then another just inside.
then turn it off to throw some shitty 70mph rainbow right down the pipe on natural ability that no one will swing at.
then back on to brush the outside corner. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: Big opaque stage ladyboy Brother, with you're Garrit Cole baseline and one of these two pitches, you would throw like 10 no hitters a season guaranteed. You'd dominate. The question is solely, which pitch do you want to have to help you get to the top of the mountain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757033) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:04 PM Author: Gaped Exhilarant Chapel oh yeah i'm saying fastball because the discrepancy between that and my natural ability would effectively be a gaping changeup or slow curve.
batters would probably wait for my shitty natural pitch though. i'd try to locate off the plate outside. |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:04 PM Author: rusted bonkers area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfWXADedncM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757044) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:49 PM Author: soul-stirring olive library Lol at el duque throwing two in a row to A-Rod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757223) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:04 PM Author: rusted bonkers area That was the original hypo. Now the hypo is: Would you rather be better than Gerrit Cole because of your fastball or better than Gerrit Cole because of your curveball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757040) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:01 PM Author: razzmatazz incel haunted graveyard Fastball. The curveball breaking all sorts of ways is basically a knuckleball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757028) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:09 PM Author: walnut patrolman windowlicker Hit libs with my fast ball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757053) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:16 PM Author: electric pistol the need, the need for speed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757072) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:29 PM Author: Diverse cumskin Can I still throw whatever other pitches I'm capable of as well? The one-two punch of a laser-accurate 104 mph fastball and a noodle-armed 65 mph off-speed pitch would be quite the arsenal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757128) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:32 PM Author: galvanic lavender site the curve no question. the dudes that throw 100+ get rocked if they dont have anything else to keep the batters guessing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757137) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:38 PM Author: free-loading mint electric furnace space gtfo with that nonsense, no woman ever got weak kneed over a beautiful 12 to 6 curve on the corner.
give me the FLAME |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:55 PM Author: soul-stirring olive library http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/greg-madduxs-wife-kathy-maddux-uncorkforacause.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4603821&forum_id=2#40757252) |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 5:59 PM Author: free-loading mint electric furnace space that's a Chicago 10, sadly
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/greg-maddux-of-the-chicago-cubs-and-his-wife-kathy-look-up-news-photo/51174749 |
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Date: August 14th, 2020 6:34 PM Author: Shimmering boltzmann indirect expression Seems like having the 104+ fastball is a guaranteed straightforward ticket to the majors and $$$$.
Would scouts even sign an otherwise unremarkable guy with only a curveball (no matter how good it is)? |