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some conclusions i have drawn from smoking dmt
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:29 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market the following things are an illusion, they dont truly exist:
I
time
space
living things, being alive
causality
matter and energy
the following things are real:
God
the human soul (not same as "you", it is borrowed from something, so when "you" die, you do end, but the thing that "lives goes back to where it came from, a place beyond time and space)
other spirits and beings
feelings
color (not the ones you see here, but the real ones i saw, the ones here are borrowed from there)
sound
the actual universe is just various vibrations from which "matter" and "energy" have been created, as well as your sense-perception of color, sound, etc...
think about it, why would light from the sun, colors you see be on some electromagnetic spectrum in a certain band? why would color and light from the sun be same as the thing in your microwave or the thing that makes internet work?
why would matter feel solid be created from the electromagnetic force?
what do they all have to do in common besides being part of this vibration spectrum?
everything in this "universe" is just various frequencies? isnt it odd that sound is also a frequency, of air?
these frequencies have been used to re-created a simulation of real things that exist outside of space and time and this so called "place" called the universe. in a sense, the universe itself is just an illusion. the real place that exists is where your mind comes from, and its sense perceptions have been calibrated on top of frequencies to give you a simulation of your experience from the real place outside of space and time where your real mind/soul comes from, and where it will go back when you perish.
the actual universe that you revere so much is just the white noise that you see on your tv screen when there is no signal. its just bleeps and bloops. everything is like that, including the light from the sun.
when god said let there be light, its the light of the vision of the dmt place. there is no light there. in there, you perceive vision in tandem with feeling and understanding, sound, as well as being, and motion. our vision has been re-created from that original vision, as a substitute or a simulation. this is why we thing of light and vision as something special, instead of just being frequencies bounced of other frequencies, ie nothing.
there is no actual light where the mind comes from, there the colors are truly real, they are not a 'ghost' in the 'mind', and there there is no light to bounce of of 'objects;, because when you truly SEE, you are one with the thing you SEE, and you COMMUNICATE with it by SEEING it. all these things have been broken down into senses. the soul that was borrowed and put into an organism actually THINKS, KNOWS, HEARS, and SEES all at once. there is only SENSE, and it is BEING.
the universe is just an empty room where there is a metronome and frequencies. its nothing. anything that is real to us has been manufactured through our senses to replicated something real from another place that truly exists, and that place is beyond this universe, which is just an empty room.
your feelings of love, fear, hate..etc come from somewhere real, and they are real. thinking is real. it is part of being a human soul.
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:34 PM Author: diverse pearl point mood re-reading shit you wrote when you're high never turns out how you remember it at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967471) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:35 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market whatever, i know im right.
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:38 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market in a sense we are Frankenstein creations.
our senses re-created the experience of what being truly feels like in the place where our souls come from. they pick up on various frequencies, which are truly what only 'exists' behind the veil of our false sense-perceptions.
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:40 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market this is why super string theory has come down to realizing that all matter and energy is just the vibration of a string. since everything is just vibration, i guess it had to be some kind of string objects beneath it all to create that.
whatever the mind is, the thing that you truly feel and are, is not from this place called the universe, and it is not made of matter or energy. it perceives matter and energy through a translator which has been created to give the mind/soul the illusion of being in a real place, something to mimic where it truly comes from. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:52 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market btw, the sense of humor is also a real thing. ie humor is real and comes from somewhere else. thats why we call it a sense of humor, because we think of it as similar to vision, and we somehow know it is connected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967618) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:54 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market god is infinity.
infinity doesnt exist in this universe because this universe isnt real.
infinity is real, and exists outside of this universe. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 3:57 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market lets go back to descartes: I THINK, THEREFORE I AM...
is the only thing he concluded could be real.
then he said since god is not a deciever, then all his sense perceptions were of real things.
he was right to conclude that his mind is the only thing that is real, but wrong on the other part. i dont know if god is the deciever, or why we are being decieved, or why we are born into this universe...
but nothing in it exists as you perceive it, only the thing that perceives is real, and it comes from somewhere else. so even the space you perceive or the time isnt real. frequencies are the only thing that exists in this universe, and they are literally nothing.
only thing in this place are minds, or the things that perceive, which probably includes all living things, including plants.
btw, he was also right to call god something infinite. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 8:26 PM Author: chocolate stirring brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40969088) |
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Date: September 26th, 2020 12:50 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market apparently william blakes paintings of the old man shooting his hand down on us is of a grand deceiver. who knew, eh?
im not kidding, look it up.
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:00 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market einstein concluded that
matter = energy..
thats because they are the same thing, just frequencies.
he also concluded that space and time are the same thing, just different 'dimensions'.
thats correct, because space and time are both illusions, and so is causality.
there is no dimension, and there are no dimensions, they are just freedoms of movement along a path. they are just dimensions of freedom, or what is allowed. they dont truly exist.
so depth isnt a real thing, because there is no space. movement in space and time isnt a real thing. there is movement, but it is something borrowed from another place. it is something real that has nothing to do with space and time, it has just been transfixed on this frequency empty universe to create the illusion of its existence, just like colors. its a phantom of the real thing. hence the paradoxes of the ancient greeks, or xenox paradox. they were onto to something. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:04 PM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line This is mostly gibberish. take a step back from the dmt pipe before you really lose it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967735) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:05 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market is it really though? did you read my entire thread? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967741) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line yeah, you’re losing your mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967744) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:08 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market k, if thats what you think. i disagree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967761) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:23 PM Author: supple alcoholic home No i think you’re actually onto something. I’m a deep philosopher and I’ve come to many of these conclusions as well. People think they’re smart and dispel any alternate version of reality. However, we don’t even know how the most fundamental human act—thinking—works. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987812) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 7:51 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market exactly, we dont know how the most fundamental human act, of thinking, works. thats really the root of it all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41004532) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:05 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market this is why you have unsettling feelings about movies like the matrix, dark city, or even alien. in alien the real conclusion is that the universe is a dark place, not something created for the human soul. that is correct, the universe is merely an empty room.
the exorcist is unsettling because it reminds us that we are souls, that can interact with other dark souls. we are not bodies, that is just an illusion, as is this entire world. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:07 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market the reason that space and time feel so different yet are of the same 'substance' as discovered by reason( a real thing in the soul) should be a clue as to the nature of the illusion being pulled over your 'eyes'. (hint: you can SEE without EYES)
the reason that color and radio transmission is of the same 'substance' (discovered by detective work, ie, science) but feel so different should be a clue as to the nature of the con. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:12 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market anything that is unsettling to you is just a reminder to your soul that it is being conned and is from somewhere else.
god is simply the home where it comes from. thats why bible says you should love god and not this place.
love in this world is an illusion. there is no love. it is a connecting 'tissue' meant to tie to things. it is meant to tie your soul to this material world. thats why we dont understand what love is, since it is sex, family, or things, like this world. love is also an illusion.
hence, you do not have to love god like you love this world. bible is mistaken in many things.
let there be light... what, the band of spectrum of the electromagnetic radiation that corresponds to yellow??
light doesnt really exist in the place where souls come from in the sense of being a particle or wave that bounces of matter. that is just signals. in that place, vision is of REAL things, where color is something real, not a bouncing vibration. god really did say let there be light, but in that other place, and more like, let there be things seen, heard, understood, felt, and communicated with, all at once. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:15 PM Author: brindle international law enforcement agency digit ratio Never taken DMT but I do believe we’ve never not been “conscious.” There is no “death” in that sense. We have lived a conscious life thousands of times before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967838) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:19 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market thats true. the idea of consciousness as a receptor of perceptions through the senses is a lie though. the soul is the real thing, but it is being lied to through the senses to create a feeling of existence that is similar to the one it experienced before being thrust into this place we call the universe, a holding room where nothing truly happens expect our feelings and thoughts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967870) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:25 PM Author: supple alcoholic home Fuck yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987822) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:17 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation So why does this "universe" exist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967846) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:18 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market good question. i have no idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967858) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:19 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation smoke more DMT and get back to us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967867) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:20 PM Author: copper cheese-eating elastic band wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967874) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:20 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market no, there is no answer to your question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967875) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation There must be an answer. Why would the primordial energy/vibration of reality condense into this plane "we" 'exist' in? As opposed to 'something' 'else' ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967906) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:29 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market this energy and vibration of 'reality' is nothing but frequencies, ie nothing. this 'plane' is literally not a place as your soul used to understand the idea of place. it is an illusion created from the substance of space/time, where freedom of movement has been created in teh sense of place via three axes, and freedom of movememnt in only one avis via the dimension of time, which is literally has been revealed through science to be same as space, which is illogical to our minds, only because it is part of the same con that has to do with seeing color, and feeling objects via touch, or any sense-perception. there really is movement in the place where our souls come from, and so it has been transfixed on this universe of frequencies via whatever space and time is. just like color has been transfixed via our eye organ to frequencies. i guess space and time is just the strata where freedom of movement of frequencies is. its just how frequencies are able to manifest themselves, nothing more. our feeling of the solidity of time and space is just another illusion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967945) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:17 PM Author: Godawful walnut native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967848) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967881) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital 98 percent of this is accurate imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967903) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:44 PM Author: Beady-eyed cerise windowlicker space Out the 2% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968645) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:41 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market thanks. but thats not a good thing. there is a con going on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968904) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:25 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market language and communication, based on reason and intelligence, are real things and come from the place where our souls come from.
communication of feelings and understanding is borrowed from where our souls come from, where they are transmitted directly via what is real VISION.
here, in our frankenstein world, language is communicated through transmission and reception via frequencies of air, which is the medium of transmission (hint: there is no medium of transmission where our souls come from, but there is sound, understanding...), recieved by our ears, and sent via the flapping of our mouths and tongue. hence the short story about meet talking. they talk.. but its just meat.. that story correctly identified talking as something real.. but meat being something not important.. it just didnt understand why the paradox existed. thats because meat is matter and matter isnt even real, but somehow understanding of words is real. i think i have explained here why. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:27 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation So we're more than the sum of our parts?
Is the DMT making you understand "pantheism" as basically the cr point of view? Like god is everything and everything is god and religion(s) is/are just sort of the different expressions of one truth? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:33 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market its not just that we are more than the sum of our parts, its that there is only one thing, which is the soul, and it is being conned via the 'parts' into creating an illusion of an existence that is similar, very similar in fact, to the one where our soul comes from. where i was there was vision, sound, movement, understanding, communication, but all at once, and not via organ sense-perception. thats why they call it the third eye... all we know here of vision is that it is created by the eye, but that is incorrect. just like sound is created by the ear, etc... none of those things are created by seperate organs. hence whatever we SEE with from where we come from is not based on an eye, the eye is another lie. we call it the third eye because eyes are all we know.
and the statement seeing is believing is a good one. in the place where i was... seeing literally was believing because they were one and the same. the soul perceives everything as one, there is no separation from senses and back into understanding. all is one over there.
you are not the sum of your parts. that is an illusion. you just are. there are no parts. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation Sounds like Buddhism shtick honestly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967980) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:36 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market maybe buddism had some truths in it. read my post below this though. the truth of things is not important, its just that our souls have abilities that can uncover things.
the reason why we exist in this false reality is probably something scary. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation Buddhism posits there are different realms, some more like hell, some more like heaven and then nirvana which is total freedom. The earthly/human realm is considered "good" because people are able to realize True Freedom from the endless cycle of birth and death here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968002) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:43 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market well ok, then. there probably are different realms, some more like hell others more like heaven, which are all real and beyond space and time, which is an illusion. beyond space and time simply means real to me at this point, because whatever this strata of space/time that holds frequencies is simply a nothing, a holding place for souls that come from real reality to be lied to and examined, i guess.
nirvana as total freedom i dont think is a special thing. it probably just alludes to the total freeom of where souls come from, in a sense that there is no hardship there related to matter and energy diffusion, or pain or suffering in the physical sense. there is probably suffering in the spiritual sense. physical suffering is an illusion of this false world, but spiritual pain is real.
i dont know why the earthly realm is considered good. i am of the opinion that it is not and is a lie because of some bad reason. to deceive souls in such a way is weird and fucked up. we only know things as the big truths and call them that because our souls have the capacity for reason, which comes from the understanding of the real reality. we call them big truths and revere them because they remind us that this world is a lie and that we had a real home. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:44 PM Author: Azure bateful preventive strike mediation You sound now like a Gnostic Christian, who would believe this earthly realm is actually hell. Buddhists too though, simply refer to this life as 'suffering'. Being disconnected from the truth, the light, the way, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968028) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:50 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i dont think of this place as an actual hell. there are experiences here that mimic our heavenly home, so its not truly a hell. its just a big lie is all. maybe a purgatory would be more accurate.
the light is the truth and the way, because in the real place where i was it is all one and the same. ther is no light there as we understand it, frequencies of EM spectrum, ie vibration that has to be interpreted as vision by the organ of our eye. the eye lies. there are no colors. the real colors that i saw truly exist where i was, and they simply are SEEN, in also felt, and understood, and heard,...etc.. by ONE thing, ie what we call the soul. the separation of reality into sense-perception is a lie and a mimic of what real reality is. its reconstruction into a one experience is a lie to our souls. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water the point of this place is to maximize instantiations of the best of heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986905) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line is there any value in meditating? what does it do for us? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40967965) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:36 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i have no idea if there is any value to knowing what i have said in this thread. we have been put into this universe for some reason, and i dont know what it is.
through reason and understanding i could piece that this universe isnt what it seems. but that was not the point of my soul being in this universe. truth or whatever was not the goal. its just that our souls are capable of thinking and we have been able to use detective work to find things out.
the reason why our souls are here and what is the value of our lives and experiences here i do not know. its probably something scary and uncomfortable. i mean, why are our souls being lied to, and by whom? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:39 PM Author: Charcoal unholy reading party How's your deal with Spotify going? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968003) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:40 PM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968007) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:41 PM Author: brindle international law enforcement agency digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968010) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:39 AM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40970644) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:46 PM Author: brindle international law enforcement agency digit ratio Do you no longer fear death, assuming you did pre dmt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968032) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:48 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i still fear death, as i am unable to discard the illusion of reality from my bones. also, i dont have all the information. death is still the great unknown and the greatest mystery, it will be the answer however to all things.
death will always be scary to me. i am not like that monk in the picture who is on fire but is totally calm. he clearly knows in his heart that pain is an illusion of this fake world, and that death is not as bad as this fake world makes you think it is, but is actually a release.
i am not a strong person. im just a curious, pussy, asshole. so i have all this information, but when it comes time to back up what you think, i got nothing. im scared of death as a chicken. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:46 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market think about it, how can you be born and then die? that makes no sense. you just come into existence and then dissapeare? its more like the real you has been cleaned of its knowing of what it was, put into this world of illusion, and then thrust back to somewhere, where it came from.
there is no creation or destruction in the real reality, only transformation. |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 9:18 PM Author: disrespectful abode water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41021669) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:47 PM Author: haunting church 👽 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968036) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:55 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market there are no aliens, and if there are, they are simply spirits like us that have been put into this empty thing we call the universe and been lied to via some kind of sense-perception mechanism. they are victims of a lie, just like us.
the only real aliens, or other beings, are the souls and spirits that i have encountered in the dmt dimension, which is not a dimension but the real reality.
time, place, dimension here are all lies, they are simply freedoms of movement for the only thing that exists, frequencies and vibrations, which is nothing, essentially.
we refer to the dmt place as a dimension or a parallel universe because that is all we know of, because that is what our souls transposes the feeling of a place that it knows from where it comes from unto this illusory reality. everything here is a lie pulled over us.
so the idea that there must be other intelligences is being manifested as the existence of aliens. our soul knows that there are other beings and entities, it remembers somehow, so it thinks of aliens in this universe. thats all. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 4:59 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market also, its funny that in annie hall it starts with young woody allen being depressed that the universe is expanding and that nothing will exist.
the truth is that nothing already does exist. its all a lie. only frequencies exist here, and the souls trapped in this place and the lie that is being pulled over us.
he has been so conned into this lie that he forgot that he has a soul, that there is a god (the creator of real reality and his real soul), and he finds it sad that nothing will exist, where in truth nothing already does except his deceived soul.
god does not exist in this universe, though he may visit it, just like ours souls visit it and can travel through planes of existence.
what god created truly is the place where our souls come from and our souls. he has not created this universe, or if he has, its not important, its just a nothing with frequencies. the real question is who put us here and who pulled the lie over our eyes that this is all real? ie, who gave us eyes to falsely 'see' with? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM Author: aquamarine sanctuary this is high quality content, ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968108) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 5:01 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market not really. the real problem is that we are here. why are we here is the real question, and what does it mean?
the truth of the lie is just something that can be uncovered. it is not important. the lie started, and the lie will end. that is not the problem. (ie ur born and you die).
the problem is why?? why are we 'here' and why are we being lied to? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market or maybe ive been thinking about it all wrong...
maybe this place isnt a lie, per se.
maybe what all life is, its essence, comes from a place beyond this universe, beyond this space and time, from another place that is more real. where god comes from and exists.
but the fact that we live and exist here in these biological bodies is not something terrible or a lie. its just that beyond the inner experience of living matter there is no actual reality to anything, on its surface this place is just vibrations and frequencies operating in some substrate of space/time. only thing that is real in the universe, in other words, is the mind and consciousness, which comes from somewhere where god exists, and is not of this world.
its like as if the mind is being beamed into this empty reality into an organism to create the sense of being, but its true existence and being belongs to another realm, one beyond space and time. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:21 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor The musings here seem to conceive of a place beyond this universe that is more real. Perhaps it is all part of one big fabric. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968565) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:27 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i did not conceive of this place beyond this universe that is more real, i saw it with my mind's eye.
it probably is all part of a bigger fabric, you are right. but this universe that we are in is essentially an empty room with a ticking clock and vibrations. so it being part of anything is a joke, it just is. its a holding room. an empty thing. its an illusion. if there is no time, no place,no matter, no energy, only vibrations, then essentially this whole universe is a lie. it is a dream inside of a dream of some malevolent entity, holding us hostage, alone, separate from our creator and from our true home, made to believe and sense that we are in our home, left to perish by the hand of time. whatever i saw on dmt is part of the fabric, the thing that matters and is important. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:39 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor you conclude that because the universe can be reduced to vibrations, that it is all a lie. then take the next step and deduce that this lie is the deception of a malevolent entity.
i don't know one way or the other but those don't necessarily follow. I agree that the universe is made up of vibrations, but my conclusion is that that is the Truth and that is God. It is everywhere and everything. The instant you try to characterize God you limit it. Malevolence, benevolence, these are all based in human emotions and conditions. Trying to understand the universe through such a lens clouds human's ability to conceive of the universe.
By characterizing it as a "lie" you are instantly attributing some behavior or intent grounded in the limited frame of human behavior. A lie is a false statement conveyed with the deliberate intent to deceive. Do you think the universe deliberately intends anything? The use of that word poisons all further contemplations and conclusions that are based on it. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:18 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market vibrations in space and time cannot be the truth or god.
i think thats what einstein concluded and what he refers to as god, and i think he is dead wrong -- god is not in the mathematics or the frequencies or the substrate of time/space -- those are all empty things. the only reason math seems real is because it is a product of reasoning of the human soul, something that is real. math itself is a ghostly apparition of this world. it has no truth, and it has no reality. its only reality is as the thing which the human mind created to uncover the mechanism under which the nothingness in this world creates the experience behind the veil of sense-perception. to say god created math is a joke. god only created human reason, which created math. our reason is a product of the mind, which is real, and can deduce things. thinking is real. it is more real than anything in this universe of matter and energy. thinking belongs to the soul. i am not sure thinking exists in the real reality, maybe it is something human souls have created out of necessity to deal with this fake world of illusions, like an outgrowth of understanding/feeling. back there is probably understanding and feeling, thinking is superfluous and useless, but here thinking is an answer to the illusion.
we have merely through detective reasoning revealed the utter empty reality of this universe. we have uncovered the lie. nothing is real.
god itself is real. he is not the creator of some stupid frequencies, which is just a number. math and number is the fabric of this empty world. god himself is infinite and unbounded, and there is no math in real reality because there is no separation or number there, or limit. we are in love with math because it is a good tool for bettering our lives here, and it is a good exercise for our soul's reasoning and thinking ability and reminds us of what makes a soul. but it is a mistake to think that math underlies ultimate reality, it is only something constructed by our reasoning to explain away this false world. and once we have used our mathematical reasoning to understand this world, what it revealed itself to us is that it is all one big empty lie. that there is no god here, that nothing truly exists. well, in the real reality where i was for 10 minutes, things truly exist, and there is no need for math. thinking and knowing are there though, as part of existence. same as vision, the true vision of the mind, not of the organ called the eye to provide a fake obfuscation of creating a reality out of nothingness, frequencies in space/time. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:33 PM Author: supple alcoholic home 180 bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987858) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 5:51 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market and when i was in dmt i asked what is life, what is death, and am i alone?
and i got the answer as god appearing to me.
so i think the answer is connected to illusion and reality. so life and death are an illusion, and the sense of being alone is an illusion as well. there is only god, the creator. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:02 PM Author: territorial faggotry I didn’t read more than half of the first post but have a bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968483) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:04 PM Author: Big-titted chrome national security agency where do the vibrations come from though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968490) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:05 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market thats a good question. maybe from hell itself? maybe it's satan's fingertips extending into this place? and playing different 'chords'?
maybe they are echoes of things?
maybe this whole world of nothing but illusions is the devil, and only the mind itself is of god? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:23 PM Author: Big-titted chrome national security agency cr. maybe the universe is actually completely malevolent and satanic, and we are just anesthetized to it by a neurochemical bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968569) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:25 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market whats malevolent seems to me is the act of illusion of the senses. beyond that, it just mostly seems empty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968580) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:08 PM Author: appetizing persian police squad skimmed thread. seems you have stumbled upon an understanding of Advaita Vedanta (non-duality).
you should checkout the literature of David Hawkins, MD |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:10 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market yeah, sounds close enough. but i disagree that knowing any of this is tantamount to liberation. i think its completely superfluous, because we are stuck here until we die, and death in a sense is the liberation and a lifting of the veil of this false world.
to me the big question is why this situation exists in the first place. why the lie? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM Author: appetizing persian police squad death is only a change of state. your awareness is not destroyed, only your ego. true liberation is the acceptance of God.
the "why" isnt something im really interested in, its an impossible and fruitless question. I'm mostly concerned about liberatinv others
the problem With coming to these realizations via drugs instead of mental training/meditation, is that you still have a lot of wrong conceptions that you need to work through. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:23 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market first off, i dont believe true liberation is the acceptance of god. there is no liberation from this hell-hole until you die. death is not the change of your state, its the end of the illusion. yes, your awarness is not destroyed, but your ego is. so what?
the why is something im very interested in. its the why of the lie. it is the biggest question there is. why am i alive as a human being in a universe of space/time and matter and energy?
i might be a question that is well hidden and you or i or anyone will ever find out, but im pretty sure there is an answer, as there is an answer to all things except why god exists. anything in this reality has an answer, believe me.
liberating others isnt possible, like i said. you are tied to this place, you are tied to the illusion. simply knowing its an illusion is no form of liberation. only liberation is death.
what wrong conceptions do i have? any realization is as valid as the next as long as it is true. effort is something from this world, not the real one. true knowledge doesnt require effort, only knowing. i have done nothing wrong in knowing what i know through dmt. and in any way, it took me a long time to realize any of this, as the dmt experience is shocking, quick, and very confusing. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:35 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor fuck, i lost my LSD notes but I had a few takes on this.
your main confusion about "why the lie" is based on some conception that the universe is lying to you. But i see your feelings of deceit as being just a byproduct of the general condition of ignorance that is the human condition.
you are merely a blip of universal consciousness individuated and brought into being in the material body of a meat sack capable of sensory perception and certain cognitive functions.
due to the limitations of yours and humans' faculties, we have certain conceptions of the universe and our environment that are extremely limited. thus, when you take DMT and realize the depths of the universe, it feels as if you've been living under an illusion eventhough that illusion was really just self-deception imposed by the limitations of humans.
your desire for liberation is premised on the need for liberation. what do you seek liberation from? this hell-hole? what is this hell-hole you speak of? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:10 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i believe negative emotions of separation, loneliness, hate, fear and the feeling of pain come from something negative that acts on our souls through this universe.
i do not think this is a hell-hole, i know it is. i think we are divine beings who have been thrust into a hellish material world to fend off the adversary.
i do not think i was being deceived and lied to, i know i was. when i saw how true perception works, i realized the one we experience here is a construction to mimic it. therefore, this world is a lie and a deception.
its not that the universe is lying to me. the universe is the lie. its a big nothing.
the lier isnt a lie though. its something real. and it acts on something real, ie me and others, by constructing this false illusion that we are perceiving a real place.
why are my conceptions of the universe limited? i have just told you what the universe is. it is simply frequencies, and space and time are nothing at all. they are both the same, and they are both nothing. matter and energy are just vibrations. they are nothing. this universe is nothing. my perceoption of it, though a lie, is not nothing, it is a simulation of what reality truly is, back where our souls come from -- a real place.
after taking dmt, its not that i understood the depths of the universe. i simply realized that one place is real and another is fake. there is no depth to this place, as depth itself is an illusion, as it is rooted in space, another illusion. i have been living under and illusion because it has been placed on me by something as i was thrust into this fake reality. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:09 AM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor "i believe negative emotions of separation, loneliness, hate, fear and the feeling of pain come from something negative that acts on our souls through this universe"
My take on these negative emotions is that we long to merge (be one) with the universe from which we came and are apart but for the alienation imposed by our own ego. Ego dissolution can be frightening for some, but for others it can ecstatic to feel as one with other beings or the larger universe.
I will not try to argue with how the rest of your experiences since I've never done DMT myself, only shrooms and acid. Your DMT experience seems to have taken on a much darker tone. I've had 2 mindfuck shroom experiences so I understand to some extent. Does your environment impact your DMT trip at all? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:14 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market the more i skim thru this wiki article about advaita, the more it seems to be very aligned to what im saying. i guess they are (somewhat) correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968538) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor Brother, where did you get your dmt? And are you in CA? I got 30 tabs of Lsd and have been looking for some smart people to trip with in the Sierras.
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM Author: chocolate stirring brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968543) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:38 PM Author: Mint orchestra pit it’s sad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968623) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:46 PM Author: Turquoise disturbing meetinghouse you need to try 5-meo-dmt to truly touch reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968655) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 6:57 PM Author: Beady-eyed cerise windowlicker space Great thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40968713) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:19 AM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40970607) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:37 AM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40970640) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:28 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market and now that i think about it, there probably isnt some thing as an individual soul with a 1-1 relationship to a human body.
otherwise how come so many more people have come into this world as the human population grows?
i think its just a snatching away of whatever the soul is and its entrapment into a singular body, making it believe it is something physical, and something utterly separate.
that it is merely a thing moving among other things, until it stops moving.
whatever brings the soul into this world is demonic.
birth of a human being is a tragedy, and death is the liberation. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 8:22 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i think Schopenhauer has come close to this stuff, by separating will and perception as representation, ie something false. the will is real, sense perception is not. the will is the mind, the soul, objects as perceived are simply illusions constructed by a mechanism to create a false reality that corresponds somehow to the one that the soul knew before it came to this world.
kant was also on to something, that there is a reality beyond the one perceived by the senses, an ultimate reality. its true, there is one, its called nothingness as it exists in frequencies and space/time... the perception of this reality as something made of color, touch, smell, sound is the deception. the ultimate reality is the mind itself.
ranscendental idealism is a doctrine founded by German philosopher Immanuel Kant in the 18th century. Kant's doctrine is found throughout his Critique of Pure Reason (1781). Kant argues that the conscious subject cognizes the objects of experience not as they are in themselves, but only the way they appear to us under the conditions of our sensibility. Thus Kant's doctrine restricts the scope of our cognition to appearances given to our sensibility and denies that we can possess cognition of things as they are in themselves, i.e. things as they are independently of how we experience them through our cognitive faculties.
In the "Transcendental Aesthetic" section of the Critique of Pure Reason, Kant outlines how space and time are pure forms of human intuition contributed by our own faculty of sensibility. Space and time do not have an existence "outside" of us, but are the "subjective" forms of our sensibility and hence the necessary a priori conditions under which the objects we encounter in our experience can appear to us at all. Kant describes time and space as "empirically real" but transcendentally ideal.
- i think we can "cognize" things as they are in themselves, only not in this fake world. in here, what truly is behind the veil of the senses is only frequencies in space/time. space and time are not some deep fundamental realities to be directly cognized, they are merely a nothing. our experience of time and space is the only real thing there is because the mind is the only real thing there is, so our illusory sense of reality, in a way, is the real thing, btu since its a construction of a fake reality, the only true real thing is the mind itself, upon which this lie is being created for. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 10:53 PM Author: amethyst titillating forum juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40969957) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:46 AM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital Just humans
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4605771&forum_id=2#40772272) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 10:59 PM Author: bat shit crazy bat-shit-crazy prole rigor lines up a lot with what this physicist is saying
https://youtu.be/3ZPVp0NGEYY |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 11:00 PM Author: Big-titted chrome national security agency why would a piece of 'soul' come into being just because two people copulate. also, do retards have souls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40970002) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:03 AM Author: Twinkling Charismatic Place Of Business this sounds like a way more intense version of lsd. i feel lsd lets you touch this whereas dmt sounds like it throws you into the deep end of the pool without any life vest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40970543) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 5:27 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market its not a more intense version of lsd, its something fundamentally different. its not a psychedelic the same way all others are. it doesnt throw you deep into the end of the pool, it just lifts the veil of this false reality and makes you truly see with your mind, instead of your eyes, what is truly real, a realm of experience behind this fake cosmos that we call home. you dont get that at all on lsd, you just get a perturbation of the senses so that you get to wonder just what the fuck is going on. here, its more of a lifting of the veil, and you get to SEE for the first time in your life, and KNOW, for the first time in your life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974248) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 9:23 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor yeah, i hear dmt transports you to a completely different realm, whereas lsd augments the realm we perceive and experience every day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40975584) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 9:32 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market exactly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40975638) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 1:51 AM Author: vibrant piazza codepig Kaballah vibes with this
Perhaps you are seeing from Asiyah into Yetzirah.
Or at least from Malkuth into Yesod. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 5:28 PM Author: Canary useless macaca wow man so deep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974258) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 5:36 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market ive been reading about some of this stuff yesterday and many religions and philosophies are on the right track. kaballah has some good clues as to whats going on. same as plato, neo-platonism, gnosticism, hinduism, buddism, transcendental idealism, heck even the abrahamic religions, and of course, mysticism..
these all seem to point to a Truth of the world. modern science is also correct, but only insofar as to point out the emptiness of the whatever is behind our sense-perception of the world. ie, superstring theory, quantum field theory, and general relativity all have arrived at realizing that the world is simply made of frequencies, vibrations, strings vibrating.... and that even space and time are just an empty strata, one empty non-existent thing.. gravity is the bending of space-time by frequencies... ie, nothing itself... its all a big nothing, only our senses create a feeling of a 'world'. it is all a lie and a deception. matter = energy... of course.. its just all frequencies. everything is nothing, literally, except consciousness/mind/spirit/soul..., which gives meaning and existence to a perception of a world, a false one. even mathematics and physics, though laudable edifices of human reason, are ultimately empty, as they describe the functioning and regulation of nothingness, a nothingness that has been made to create a world for a conscious observer to deceive it to accept an existence of reality. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 12:31 AM Author: bat shit crazy bat-shit-crazy prole rigor beyond Yesod which is pure astral
this seems like he's gettign into the Supernal Triad almost |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 5:43 PM Author: pungent elite hissy fit After 7 g’s of shrooms I agree except for the god stuff. Reality is definitely flame but there is some underlying structure. Time and space may be bullshit but the mechanism that produces their appearance must have something to it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974362) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:00 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market ur not going to literally see god on any amount of mushrooms or lsd. thats why i said dmt is something fundamentally different. there is an infinite being at the core of it all, which has created your mind and your consious awareness. maybe calling it god isnt so great with all thats associated. its not the christian god, per se. its the creator of your soul.
and yes i agree, the mechanism that produces this apparent reality to our minds is something real, and possibly malevolent.
the underlying structure is nothing but vibrations and the strata that holds it, ie the dimensions of freedom where frequencies can exist. you dont really get what i mean, do you? the appearance of a reality that is based on this empty strata and frequencies is something that is a synthetic re-creation of an experience that truly exists outside of this fake, empty 'world'. we accept this fake reality because it weakly corresponds to the one our soul comes from, but we are always a bit at odds with this world because something in us know something isnt quite right. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:03 PM Author: Onyx floppy business firm personal credit line you're obsession with dmt being the key to truth is cringeworthy. you haven't dosed high enough with LSD or mushrooms if you think they're fundamentally different. at high doses, the experience is just as insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974487) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:14 PM Author: pungent elite hissy fit It’s not clear that the underlying reality is anything so great. Likely our minds are just stranded in nothingness forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974517) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:16 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market well, you could be right. it could be that i just entered my mind, and its not more fundamental then this reality of matter and space/time it exists in somehow. but something tells me our minds are outside of this fake space/time +matter configuration in a way that tells me its more of an entrapment situation than an existence through matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974528) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:01 PM Author: transparent fortuitous meteor This is all true; it is revealed when we die, hence why so many people shit their corporeal pants when they die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974481) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:14 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974518) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 6:03 PM Author: laughsome boltzmann Ray Cappo posts here now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40974488) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2020 9:31 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market some more clues as to the unreality nature of the world:
wave-particle duality: discovery that quantum objects can never be described as a particle, or as a wave only. first discovered about light, realizing that it must be understood as a particle and not as a wave of electromagnetic radiation only. then realizing that electrons must be understood as a wave and not just as a particle. then realizing that larger "quantum' objects were just like that as well. then i guess realizing that maybe all 'autonomous' physical objects are like this, except there is now way to test this beyond small molecules.its just more proof of the nature of the con. everything is nothing, there are no things...
"Bohr regarded the "duality paradox" as a fundamental or metaphysical fact of nature. Bohr regarded renunciation of the cause-effect relation, or complementarity, of the space-time picture, as essential to the quantum mechanical account."
its funny how at the micro quantum level scientists simply have to admit that causality and by extension space/time arent real... but they assume there is some magical mechanism through which, yet undiscovered or not understood, makes causality on the macro scale of our experience MOST DEFINITELY real. the clues are right there all over the place, just nobody wants to admit.
xeno's paradoxes of motion: to this day, i dont think anyone has successfully solved them. the reason is that they are actually not paradoxes but really what they are on the surface, indications that movement (motion) doesnt actually exist and is an illusion. they are simple logically and dont require advanced math or logic to understand, but their conclusions are quite 'insane', so everyone thinks there must be some complicated mathematical theoretic answer that will resolve them, when in truth, they are simply an indication that truly the world as we know it is not real. motion does exist, but not in this plane of existence. it has been transcribed unto this fake reality and given the appearance of existence through some kind of a transfiguration of our understanding of the mind unto this emptiness we call matter and energy vibrating in space-time.
the truth is really staring us right in the face, either if arrived at through the complexities of 20th century theoretical physics, or simple logical deductions by the ancient greeks. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 12:18 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market not to belabor the point, but it seems this stuff was known by reason alone way before i started this thread or ever smoked dmt or thought about my experience and what it means...(and btw, way before christ got born):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmenides
also note how zenos paradoxes of motion were invented to defend this guy's views. imo nobody has answered them yet, its just that the conclusion and its implications is too mind-blowing for some. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 12:37 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market from the wiki:Helplessness guides the wandering thought in their breasts; they are carried along deaf and blind alike, dazed, beasts without judgement, convinced that to be and not to be are the same and not the same, and that the road of all things is a backward-turning one.
this is a pretty good description of the dmt trip.
also:
In the poem, Parmenides describes the journey of the poet,from the ordinary daytime world to a strange destination, outside our human paths..Carried in a whirling chariot, and attended by the daughters of Helios the Sun, the man reaches a temple sacred to an unnamed goddess (variously identified by the commentators as Nature, Wisdom, Necessity or Themis), by whom the rest of the poem is spoken. The goddess resides in a well-known mythological space: where Night and Day have their meeting place. Its essential character is that here all opposites are undivided, or one.
Welcome, youth, who come attended by immortal charioteers and mares which bear you on your journey to our dwelling. For it is no evil fate that has set you to travel on this road, far from the beaten paths of men, but right and justice. It is meet that you learn all things — both the unshakeable heart of well-rounded truth and the opinions of mortals in which there is not true belief. (B 1.24–30)
this might as well have been dmt speaking... |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 12:46 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market also, we think wrongly of infinity as something in space, time, or number, because those things are illusions and have no objective reality. infinity does exist in absolute reality, but more as something shut up in itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983328) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 2:49 AM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor can you explain this article to me?
https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-space-and-time-could-be-a-quantum-error-correcting-code-20190103/
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:18 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market not sure, i will look into it, but i was reading about development of quantum mechanics and also einstein's general relativity, and have come to some even more horrible conclusions about reality:
in quantum mechanics, the nature of things is described by probabilities. underneath all matter and light is simply a probability function that corresponds to a wave, and under observation, it "collapses" to a particle. so i a sense what it all really means is that only probabilities exist in nature and they only become "something" once they are observed, or -measured-. what it means is that nothing exists, except the observer who creates reality by the act of observing. there is no matter or energy, only the observer, ie the mind...ie, the soul.
now, coming from einstein: he concluded that space and time are the same thing, which is correct logically. but the inference for scientists is that it means there is an existence of something real called spacetime, which makes no fucking sense. what we are told is to think of it as something real but beyond the understanding of our monkey primitive brains. funny how we used these monkey primitive brains, aka human reason, to deduce this true statement of FACT (a clue as to the unreality of this observed world). to me it means that there is no space or time, they are different sides of the same illusion, a nothingness, just like matter and light are simply nonexistent probabilities. there is no such thing as spacetime, that is retarded.
so you see, its all an illusion. our experience of reality is created by our senses from things that have no true reality, but are actually nothing. there is no matter, no light, no time or space. there is nothing at all, which is created into a reality for the observer.
the only thing that truly exists in this 'universe' (which btw, doesnt exist) is the observer..the mind, consciousness itself, or..yes, the soul. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:35 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone You’re regurgitating Descartes and stranding yourself inside your own personal mental prison, brother. A lonely ghost marooned in the cosmos as Walker Percy would say... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983660) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:36 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market have you ever smoked dmt, "brother"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983661) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:39 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone I’m not calling you brother sarcastically or to patronise you. We can all get sucked into the vortex of solipsism and nihilism. There but for the grace of God go I.
Godspeed, prince. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:49 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market im not nihilistic. i know god and soul exist. i merely said this universe is an illusion created out of nothing for the soul. its not solipsism a certain sense. all consciousness is of god and is god and is the same. i do not exist. how is that solipsism?
godspeed my ass... im kinda fucked spiritually.
its not enough to admit that i am not the master of my soul, that god is real, etc..
like Kierkegaard knew, the greatest despair is knowing god exists but not accepting his love. thats where im kinda at now. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:33 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market im thinking about it, but as i read through it some topics emerge:
black holes -- these mysterious objects in the universe are simply the necessary logical existence of a universe created to us out of nothingness. first we had to discover that matter and light are the same, which was discovered with studying electricity and magnetism, connecting the two, then realizing that it described not only electricity but also matter itself and also light. then, we knew from einstein that if gravity acted on matter by it bending spacetime (a theoretical construction, remember), then it must also act on light, as weird as that seems to our minds. so then they are called black holes because not even light escapes them. what black holes are is an enigma to most people, and it makes sense. what i think they are is a necessary product of a universe created from this matter/light and space-time equivalences. but at the heart of it a black hole is nothing but nothingness creating more nothingness. its nothing special or mysterious or interesting. just moles on a monster...
they do not lead to any other universes or some dimensions of existence. they simply exist. they are a clue as to the nature of the nonexistence of this universe, to the nothingness beneath it all.
the reason they are mysterious is because they are objects at the intersection of all nothingness and the dualities of our experience, matter/light and space/time, where all these things come together to create the real reality of what this place is, one big nothing that exists in no space or time where there is no light or matter -- the real nature of the world we think 'exists' -- ie, it is all one big black fucking hole, man. in a sense, we are inside of one right now, the conceptual black hole of this reality, not some specific black hole that opens up to another universe...
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:38 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone Chesterton, CS Lewis, Walker Percy, Malcolm Muggeridge are lucid to a fault and will liberate you from your folly if you give them a fair hearing, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983662) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:39 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market wtf are you even trying to say to me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983664) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:40 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone Pascal, too. The Renaissance man of all time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983666) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:00 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market having read this now, i dont think there is much to explain. i think the article and the people it talks about are all misguided. they are looking for a kernel of ultimate truth in the discovery of a quantum theory of gravitation. they are trying to do that with a hologram theory of space/time. just another example of misguided searching. its a dead end. there is no reconciliation of time/space and matter/energy because they are different illusions, it appears. when they collide they become a black hole, an actual manifestation in reality of utter nothingness that is the universe itself. its a paradox, a clue, an answer.. a paradox of the universe is always an indication to its truth. hence zeno's paradox of motion..i would put the existence of a black hole in the same category. its funny how the beginning of the universe is supposed to resemble a black hole, a singularity. the scientists are sitting on the conclusion but refuse to see what it means. that the universe itself is one big nothing, and its evolution in time means nothing at all.
these people think black holes will be understood if a quantum theory of gravity is discovered, instead of realizing a black hole is a physical and logical manifestation of our logical detective work and in reality of what this place is. it is where brain has met reality and is astonished at the product, and that the product itself exists. when scientists postulated the existence of black holes, they were simply following math. when they were able to instrumentally detect their existence, they were shocked. it is quite shocking i admit to discover an object, a physical manifestation in reality, as a product of the intersection of our discovery in mathematics of the nothingness of the universe. of course, nobody thinks of the science behind modern physics as revealing such things.. because they refuse to see the obvious.
finding out that light was simply a band on some electromagnetic spectrum, which is connected to the idea of matter should have been a clue, but nobody cared, just went right on deducing things and creating the modern world of tech with it.
nobody cared that space = time, they just created a logical thing called spacetime and acted as if THAT was real, and not an abstraction. the fact that space is same thing as time is a truth. the creation of a spacetime is an abstraction to obfuscate that truth. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:30 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone You need to read Chesterton’s Heretics and Orthodoxy before it’s too late, brother. Not saying this as generic religious advice - I’m saying it for your genuine clarity because these debates have been happening for hundreds if not thousands of years... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983655) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:38 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market didnt i say itt just that today?? about Parmenides (so called godfather of metaphysics and ontology) and ancient indian religion, etc? pay attention.
xeno's paradoxes, etc... |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:41 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone Stop worshipping your druggie brain and work on purifying your misguided heart, you stupid Jewish nigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983668) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:42 AM Author: nofapping ceo telephone “Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40983670) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 3:47 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market yeah, i already know that. the point of existence is to know god and do his will. not to try to figure out the nature of existence.
i already think im in trouble with the good lord, so might as well occupy my human intelligence with some wicked game.
i know thats the real thing. but fuck man, thats hard. thats soul stuff... its easier to just dig around the dirt. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:28 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market Void hypothesis
1540 painting of Democritus by Dosso Dossi.[37] The atomistic void hypothesis was a response to the paradoxes of Parmenides and Zeno, the founders of metaphysical logic, who put forth difficult-to-answer arguments in favor of the idea that there can be no movement. They held that any movement would require a void—which is nothing—but a nothing cannot exist. The Parmenidean position was "You say there is a void; therefore the void is not nothing; therefore there is not the void."[38][39] The position of Parmenides appeared validated by the observation that where there seems to be nothing there is air, and indeed even where there is not matter there is something, for instance light waves.
"The atomists agreed that motion required a void, but simply ignored the argument of Parmenides on the grounds that motion was an observable fact. Therefore, they asserted, there must be a void. This idea survived in a refined version as Newton's theory of absolute space, which met the logical requirements of attributing reality to not-being. Einstein's theory of relativity provided a new answer to Parmenides and Zeno, with the insight that space by itself is relative and cannot be separated from time as part of a generally curved space-time manifold. "
-from wiki about Democritus
sounds to me like curved space-time manifold is a cop-out abstraction to settle this. there is no such thing as a curved space-time manifold just as there isnt some thing called "space" in an objective sense as newton understood it. parmendies and zeno still right, newton and Einstein still wrong. however, they are right about the illusory nature of reality indirectly by revealing certain truths of our world beyond what our direct sense-experience tells us, they just choose to draw the conclusion that they are reading the mind of god through reason, instead of using god-given reason to uncover a lie. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:49 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market "insight"
what is insight if not IN + SIGHT.. seeing within onEself... seeing inside the mind...
aka, smoking dmt will give one insight. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 11:55 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water What are your views on astrology (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40985013) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i dont give a fuck anymore.. im doing way too many drugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986684) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: Godawful walnut native yeah, stop that you idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986686) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986693) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water 180 i wish we were friends irl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986739) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:26 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water So the mind can perceive one thing, and what it can perceive are brain states. The brain translates information it gets from its surrounding into something the mind can read. And the mind, in addition to perceiving brain states transmitting information about the body’s surrounding, can also perceive abstract notions of self-centeredness and other personality characteristics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986755) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:26 PM Author: Canary useless macaca Shut the fuck up mig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986760) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water If our mind perceives through the brain, the brain is in control of the content of our thought. That’s why when we give drugs to the brain, the mind perceives psychedelic realities. These realities are likely true in that the brain is attempting to perceive more of the nonphysical aspects imprinted on it. For example, the human brain has developed the ability to recognize patterns, including patterns that resemble faces, even in things that are not human persons. On psychedelic drugs, this phenomenon of recognizing facial patterns in non-human persons increases. This seems to make clear that the mind is not perceiving mind in other human persons – we have no direct contact with the non-physical mind of others – but we are inferring the existence of their minds from physical evidence.
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water god is pulling the physical world into complex structures like the brain, like a magnet gathering shards of metal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986806) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water I would guess the horrifying imagery you saw was an attempt by your brain to perceive the holy non-physical reality but, lacking proper representational tools, jumbled the message or gave only parts of it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986819) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:39 PM Author: big honey-headed university "we have no direct contact with the non-physical mind of others" actually, I have talked to my wife while she's sleep-talking, which means I have had direct contact with the spiritual/subconscious mind |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:43 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water Nothing about that suggests a “con”. You identified e.g. that everything physical emerges from a primary substrate of being. It’s interesting but not troubling that color and sound are “of the same substance”, since they emerge from the physical fabric. The mind can be from a separate kind of reality without the reality it takes for content being a con. What can you even know of the other reality? Everything you know of it is colored by the parameters of the brain, e.g. angels have bodies somehow. this suggests that the mind and body rely on each other, the mind would have nothing to do without the body. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986859) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water The only way to know god is through love of his creation. What would one love if there was no created reality? The mind would have no content. Even our concept of God is both reliant and clouded by physical reality. It seems like you are happy to reject the authenticity of the world, deny the existence of anything in this world in the other one, and then leave totally null any set of propositions about the other world, except for there being “true color” What would it be like to live without as you mention “feelings and thoughts" if there is also "vision" and "understanding"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40986901) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:14 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market been digging around about all this modern physics stuff, and it appears to me that its all been expressed in the language of linear algebra, or in other words matrix algebra, or vectors (or tensors)...
before the formulation of quantum mechanical principles in matrix notation, nobody in physics used matrix algebra for anything, it was just a mathematical curiosity to solve systems of linear equations or do other calculations. it was just a tool.
now its being used as an abstraction to re-define all of calculus-based physics for easier manipulation/calculation, but also to abstract away from geometrically intuitive notions of euclidean reasoning, based on visualization of the world and its abstraction into lines, surfaces and angles.
all of quantum physics is expressed in terms of essentially the language of matrix algebra. and so is general relativity, with use of tensors, which are just a higher abstraction of vectors.
thats why modern language of math seems so extra confounding.
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:18 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987307) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:31 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market furthermore, it seems to me quantum physics was formulated in the language of matrix algebra to get away from the wave function calculations to suppress the mystery of the wave-like behavior of individual subatomic particles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987348) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:32 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water i would imagine its easier to do physics if you're not distracted by magic constantly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987350) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:35 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market yes, because the wave function of quantum mechanics, or the shrodinger equation, expressed in the language of calculus, is pretty much analogous to the more general wave function of any wave, including maxwell's equations, and really einstein's equations of the curvature of space-time, if they are re-understood without all of the linear algebra. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987363) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:38 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water does the abstraction of the math describing a wave have a correlate in the other world? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987380) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:40 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market obviously not.
the correlate is human reason, or the logos.
it can be used to create math, which is then worshipped, and even by some suggested to be the higher forms of platonic true reality. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:43 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water so what is the interaction point if you're confining the logos to this world? you need to have something in common for the worlds to interact at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987407) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:47 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market whats in common is perception, the mind (soul), and the ability to reason (logos).
btw, im not confining the logos to this world, it is a property of the other world, brought to this one by extension, just like sense-perception. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:51 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water right so im wondering, if the logos exists in both worlds, wouldn't that mean the structure of mathematics, an instantiation of the shared logos, could not have been otherwise, i.e. natural law is immutable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987448) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:01 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i dunno, i cant answer that meaningfully at the moment because it seems the meth has stopped working.
let me get back to you on that. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:05 PM Author: Canary useless macaca Date: September 25th, 2020 7:01 PM Author: prince
i dunno, i cant answer that meaningfully at the moment because it seems the meth has stopped working. let me get back to you on that. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:14 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market "Man cannot live without a permanent trust in something indestructible within himself, though both that indestructible something and his own trust in it may remain permanently concealed from him"
-Franz Kafka |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:17 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market "Others, such as Thomas Mann, see Kafka's work as allegorical: a quest, metaphysical in nature, for God" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987787) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:43 PM Author: supple alcoholic home This gels with my working proof of the soul. The human mind can imagine infinity—not physically imagine like seeing, but logically and cognitively imagine. Nothing finite can contain, or take on the quality of, infinity. Therefore, the human mind is not finite. It is infinite in nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40987901) |
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Date: September 26th, 2020 12:48 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i saw infinity on dmt.
so that doesnt quite square up with ur proof.
also, whats perturbs me is that i saw infinity, yet we know that its impossible to see infinity, except intuit it logically and cognitively, like you said. this is where my fucking insane explosion of WHAT THE FUCK DID I EXPERIENCE comes from, and believe me, when i was in the midst of it all, it was quite a mental shock. biggest shock of my life, by far. no words... |
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Date: September 26th, 2020 2:17 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water Prince maintains the material world is an illusion, it is not real. The basis of this conclusion lies in the proposal that there is an intentionality at the origin of this deceit perpetrating a “con” that hides true reality, a reality that consists in mind, understanding and spirit. I will show that there is no basis for thinking the material world is the creation of a deceitful intentionality, and that therefore the world cannot be an illusion. Within Prince’s illusion and deceit theory of the material world, the deceitful agent, who for Prince is immaterial, would have built the material world for the purpose of trapping and deceiving other immaterial beings. We can understand the nature of this creative act in at least 3 ways. First, the deceiver could have created a material world that is ontologically outside of the immaterial world (dualism). Second, the deceiver could have created a material world ontologically within the immaterial world (idealism). Third, the deceiver could have created a material world that is ontologically outside the immaterial world, but both of which are within some third, neutral world that act as their basis (neutral monism). A fourth possibility, that the deceiver created a material world from nothing, is not at issue, because Prince posits the primacy of the immaterial world.
First, under dualism, the material world can be distinct from the immaterial either in substance or property, and can either causally interact with it (interactionism) or not (a form of epiphenomenalism). Under either substance or property epiphenomenalism, the immaterial world could not influence the material world, and the material world could not influence the immaterial. In order for the deceiver’s trick to work, the material world would have to influence the immaterial (otherwise immaterial minds could not be trapped). Thus, under dualism the deceiver must have created a material substance or property that can interact with the immaterial substance or property. However, a fully immaterial deceiver (which he must be if everything material is an illusion, and the deceiver is in no part an illusion), would have no power to create a wholly different substance or property sui generis. Therefore, the deceiver did not create a perfectly distinct material world.
Second, under idealism, the material world is constructed from the same substance as the immaterial world; the events in the material world are unfolding in and are comprised of the substance of the immaterial one. If such is the case, then the deceiver has perpetrated no deception. The structures Prince identifies as illusions – space, time, causality, matter – are actually immaterial structures. If there is no deceit under idealism, and Prince is alleging deceit, then the deceiver could not have created the immaterial world within the immaterial one.
Under neutral monism, there is some third thing that is more fundamental than the substances or properties of material and immaterial – a neutral monism – but that monism is unknowable. Prince claims that the deceit is a concealing of the truth of the primacy of the immaterial. Neutral monism would make the immaterial derivative of this more fundamental thing, and therefore the deceiver, who is wholly immaterial, cannot not be operating from within this neutral third thing.
I have shown that an immaterial deceiver could not have constructed an ontologically distinct material world, that the material world could not be contained within the immaterial world, and that the material world could not arise from some neutral third thing. Therefore, we must reject the premise that the deceiver is wholly immaterial. However, if the deceiver is partly material, then he would be partly an illusion. If he is partly an illusion, then the deceiver cannot be the essence of true immaterial reality. If the deceiver is not the essence of true reality, then he is derivative of and created by it. If the deceiver created the material world, but was himself created by the essence of true reality, then the origin of the material world lies ultimately in the essence of true reality. The essence of true reality, according to Prince, is infinite, it contains and is everything. An infinite thing cannot create a finite thing; if it did, it would put a limit on its creative power. Since the origin of the material world lies ultimately in the essence of true reality, and the essence of true reality, being infinite, cannot create a finite thing, the material world is infinite. Since infinite things cannot be illusory, because they are and contain everything so that nothing is left out, the material world cannot be an illusion. |
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Date: September 26th, 2020 4:48 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market havent read ur whole thing yet, but i think the point of my dmt trip was to let me know to wise up about my orientation of faith in whether my life is a good thing or a bad thing, despite whatever obstacles or negative attributes ive been dealing with. nothing more, nothing less. beyond that, it was just a jumble of experiences.
thing is, you dont know if you will die or what death will be like, even if you see others die or know logically that this experience will end. it will, but thats not the point. smoking dmt was just a glimpse into a larger mystery of life, but it doesnt have to say anything about your life. its not a con, it is what it is. |
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Date: September 26th, 2020 4:52 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water you are 180 prince (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#40991582) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 6:33 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor Rate this description of the soul:
The soul is a manifestation of complexity achieved by the nervous system. It represents the organization of matter through atomic forces, electromagnetic forces, and gravitational forces. Such forces impose order on matter. |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 7:48 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market sounds too simplistic and reductionist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41004519) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 7:33 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41004437) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 7:49 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market dmt experience is simply that which we call god, i have now come to realize.
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Date: September 30th, 2020 9:31 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41021740) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:35 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market i have now concluded that there are only three things:
god, energy, and spacetime.
and spiritually there are three distinct things:
the good, the bad, and god. |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water i have concluded, as you may be pointing out here, that god is the principle that transcends the duality of dualities (i.e. the physical duality (energy and spacetime) and the spiritual duality (the good and the bad)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022641) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market correct observation!
he is the thing that unites all things through his infinite being. |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:42 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water i have also found that he is inaccessible in himself, surrounded by infinite darkness. do you find this as well? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022652) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market not sure. have to think about your proposition a bit.
but back to my thing,
god is the point of union of things that are separate, and he transcends them.
actually to get back to your thing,
god transcends darkness. he is the connection of light and dark and that which transcends both. so he cannot be surrounded by darkness.. also, there can be no infinite darkness as god is the only thing infinite in existence. |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:54 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water yes this is exactly true. he is a point, he is not energy/spacetime, nor is he good/bad, these things are his creation, meant to exhibit his perfection.
if he is not his creation, but transcends it, why can he not be surrounded by darkness, if we are talking about our ability to perceive him?
we perceive clearly his creation, the limits of which we encounter as darkness, and when we encounter him as transcendence, we encounter only a reflection of ourselves (we are created in his image, and so can only see him as a reflection of that image) as beings that transcend mind and matter |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market well, i meant point metaphorically. a point literally is not what god is, obviously.
darkness is an attribute of creation, not of god. wherever god exists is beyond human understanding with regular concepts of life.
but at the same time ur idea that we encounter him as transcendence as a reflection of ourselves is a good one. |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:12 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636741&forum_id=2#41011514 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022832) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:14 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market yeah, excellent point.
who is david? the robot child in AI Artificial Intelligence? |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:15 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water King David of Israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022851) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:16 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market oh. maybe the david child of that movie is based on King David's story. most likely it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022862) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:56 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water re: infinity, yes, god is the first infinite thing. but his creation is an extension of his infinity, making his infinitely more glorious by making it uncountable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor%27s_diagonal_argument |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:59 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market extension signifies limits and boundaries, hence not of the infinite.
also, nothing can make his infinity more glorious than it already is. |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:05 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water ty i will consider this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022779) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:07 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water ok yes, creation is a magnification of his glory for our sake, it allows us to experience eternity as (created) time, to experience the infinite as (created) space, and experience god as (created) goodness. it is a gift from him to us, changing him in no way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022803) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:14 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market there you go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41022848) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 10:36 PM Author: bat shit crazy bat-shit-crazy prole rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41014014) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 1:40 AM Author: Fishy Razzmatazz Box Office I’ve never actually opened this thread until now (and still haven’t read whatever the fuck this rambling is), but the title makes me LOL every time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41023255) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 5:59 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market fair enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41027711) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:23 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAQ7SklDxo
Scholar on Joe Rogan the other day is saying a lot of hte Ancient Greek philosophers and Hindu holy men were drinking ergot mixtures which has similar effects to LSD/Shrooms, and DMT. |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:24 PM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water No one believes this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41029097) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:26 PM Author: Kink-friendly Useless Brakes Parlor "The use of potions or philtres for magical or religious purposes was relatively common in Greece and the ancient world.[66] The initiates, sensitized by their fast and prepared by preceding ceremonies (see set and setting), may have been propelled by the effects of a powerful psychoactive potion into revelatory mind states with profound spiritual and intellectual ramifications."
"At Eleusis, the participants would rest by the well Demeter had sat down by, fast and then break their fast drinking an ancient Greek barley and pennyroyal beverage called Kykeon. The nature and effects of this mysterious drink, as it is sometimes thought of as having psychedelic properties, have brought forth several interesting theories that might shed light on the importance and role of psychedrlic substances in the initiate’s transformation and transcendence."
Yeah, I'm sure Kykeon was just milk. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2020 2:26 AM Author: hyperactive boistinker market yeah i was wondering how all these original thinkers like plato, the pre-socratics and the ancient hindus got these ideas, because if humans are all basically the same, more or less, and the fact that i never would have even come close to considering any of this in any meaningful way or appreciating its full implications just from mere contemplation alone -- so how the fuck did these people come up with this stuff out of thin air?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41030697) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2020 10:03 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water “If I couldn’t do it without drugs no one can” isnt an argument. Two thousand years ago the human psyche was far less encumbered. Thinking in that time was freer, closer to its origin, and not weighed down by the explosion of rationalism in the second millennium. Plato et al were also much smarter than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41031746) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2020 11:55 PM Author: hyperactive boistinker market whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41037320) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2020 9:58 AM Author: Heady pearly step-uncle's house boiling water Lol you druggie freak. There is zero evidence of psychoactive substances at eleusis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41031704) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2020 11:56 PM Author: Magical twinkling uncleanness hospital Plotinus did this just with pure meditation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4630805&forum_id=2#41037333) |