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Hegemon what are your thoughts on myoreps?

Also how should someone who's slow-twitch dominant train?
razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center
  01/16/21
1) I think that's just another term for pre-exhausted near-f...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
TY. My current goal is hypertrophy
razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center
  01/16/21
Ok. I'd train in sets of 5, 8, 12, and 20, in the order 5/20...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Interesting. Are you familiar with Mike Matthews and "B...
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
Yeah, lol, I think it's bullshit. Your recovery is much more...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
On frequency, what are your thoughts on training small muscl...
razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center
  01/16/21
I wouldn't; you're not allowing them the full protein synthe...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Brother, your contributions are much appreciated. I was refe...
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
Anytime. Sleep is your limiter, I'd bet. https://liftvau...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Nice. You recommended Israetel and RP before. I'll take any ...
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
You looking for hypertrophy, strength, or both?
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
I've been cutting and trying for whatever hypertrophy can be...
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
Here are a few options for you. - 6 day PPL: https://liftva...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Thanks again.
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
ofc, anytime. lmk if you have any questions.
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Also, do you include any HIIT in your plan?
Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug
  01/16/21
Not in the spreadsheets, but I recommend HIIT (done correctl...
opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21
Everything Hegemon says is CR. But remember that none of...
Lilac glittery indian lodge
  01/16/21
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opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit
  01/16/21


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Date: January 16th, 2021 5:12 PM
Author: razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center

Also how should someone who's slow-twitch dominant train?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41765778)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 5:23 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

1) I think that's just another term for pre-exhausted near-failure volume training. I think the general idea is sort of trying to mix cluster training with higher volume; I think they'll probably provoke growth, but not any moreso than other high volume near-failure training. I further think that this is far from optimal as the only way to train -- pre-exhaust sets can sometimes be helpful to induce hypertrophy, but they also increase injury risk, and there are plenty of other ways to get the same result (like using a DUP program with varying rep schemes).

2) That all depends on your goals, man. The type of training you do is going to shift which kind of muscle fibers you build. You may have a genetic predisposition to slow-twitch capacity, but if you do five years of weight training in the <6 rep range, and do speed work as in Conjugate Method, you're gonna be a fast twitch monster by the end of it. Conversely, if all you do is endurance work, you'll build slow twitch. What do you want to do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41765823)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 7:11 PM
Author: razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center

TY. My current goal is hypertrophy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766385)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 7:37 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

Ok. I'd train in sets of 5, 8, 12, and 20, in the order 5/20/8/12. I'd do these on different days, so if you're running a full body program, one day you're working entirely in sets of 5 (with the exception of shrugs, abs, calves, and back extensions, all of which should be 12 reps minimum), the next workout in sets of 20, and so on. If you're running a PPL or something like that, it's easy enough to implement there too.

If you're running a bro split where you hit a bodypart less than twice/week, you are training inefficiently and should change your programming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766533)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

Interesting. Are you familiar with Mike Matthews and "Bigger, Leaner, Stronger"? His push-pull split has you doing body parts once per week. As I get older, I'm not sure a Rippetoe style program would leave enough recovery time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766549)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:10 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

Yeah, lol, I think it's bullshit. Your recovery is much more impacted by your volume than your frequency; furthermore, protein synthesis (i.e. your muscular recovery/healing time) takes AT MAXIMUM 48 hours. Any time after that without hitting the muscles again is typically wasted. You should have at least one but not more than two days between workouts where you hit the same muscle again.

This isn't to say that there's never any benefit from taking another rest day or two, or deloading, because constant heavy training can tire your CNS which will take longer to recover. But higher frequency is NOT going to make recovery impossible -- higher volume and insufficient diet/rest are.

Diet first:

- Diet is pretty simple: eat 1.25 grams of protein for every pound of your bodyweight. There are other recommendations that have utility at given times, but if your recovery is suffering, your first response should be to increase your protein intake to this level. Often people underconsume protein and don't sleep well, and then blame a demanding routine for their lack of progress; your body is made to adapt and can often handle much more than you think, but it requires food. If you're hitting this protein goal for a week and still recovering badly, you can look at other variables.

- Your sleep is the next variable to consider; almost all of your muscular and CNS recovery takes place during sleep. If you're not averaging 7-8 hours/night, this is the problem. It's as simple as that.

Volume second:

- Your volume can be measured in sets per week, reps per week, or weight lifted per week; unless you're a powerlifter, the most useful metric for this is sets per week, especially if you're running a DUP split (which is what I'm recommending above).

- Unless you're exclusively training for strength, you should typically lift using weight that allows you one or two reps in reserve -- this obviously means reducing or increasing weight depending on the rep range you're working in. This ensures you're getting sufficient stimulus.

- Because you're autoregulating intensity to be challenging but not overwhelming, and you're using specific rep ranges to achieve certain goals, the main variable that you should adjust to manage volume is number of sets in each workout, and by extension number of sets per week. If your recovery is suffering and you've already ensured that you're resting and eating sufficiently, you should reduce the number of sets you're doing on each bodypart on each workout. Lots of people overestimate the amount of volume they need, and end up doing more tissue damage than anything else. If you're hitting a muscle 3x/week, most people can progress very well with 3-5 sets for each major muscle group (chest, back, legs) in each workout, and 2-5 sets for secondary muscles (biceps, triceps, shoulders).

- here: https://renaissanceperiodization.com/training-volume-landmarks-muscle-growth/ is a helpful (but long) article explaining essentially that there are minimum and maximum amounts of volume for progress, and a sweet spot somewhere in between that's primarily useful in understanding...

- ...these excellent bodypart training guides that give some good starting points for volume: https://renaissanceperiodization.com/hypertrophy-training-guide-central-hub/

- Adjust your volume of sets per week as needed, but don't waste more time between workouts than is needed to recover.

That's a somewhat longwinded way of getting to this: Matthews' advice flies counter to every serious strength or bodybuilding coach, because it's not based in physiology. "A Rippetoe style program" could mean many things, but I assume you mean a 5x5 3x/week; there are tens of other good programs that don't waste time by only hitting a muscle group once a week -- you've gotta roid for that to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766712)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz out-of-control twinkling uncleanness center

On frequency, what are your thoughts on training small muscles like biceps or side and rear delts very frequently, say 5 or 6 times a week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766742)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:18 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

I wouldn't; you're not allowing them the full protein synthesis window they need to ensure full recovery. An exception to this is if it's already a well developed muscle group, and you're doing something that increases load some but isn't the same as targeting it with several sets -- for instance, I do a set of pushups and pullups every morning; I don't find that is enough to hurt my recovery, but if I did three sets of each, I'd bet that would be.

I'd hit everything hard 3x/week. If you're not seeing the results you want and your recovery is at least 170, I'd start low volume (in number of sets per week) and adjust up as necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766761)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:19 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

Brother, your contributions are much appreciated. I was referring to 5x5 three times a week. And I'm getting exactly that much protein but never enough sleep. I'm going to research other programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766762)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:23 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

Anytime. Sleep is your limiter, I'd bet.

https://liftvault.com/ has a lot of good ones, and if you like I can drop some I've written for you to pick from as well. Also consider that if you just drop it to a 3x5 3x/week, you've suddenly reduced your volume by 40%! That's a lot more manageable for a lot of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766786)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:27 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

Nice. You recommended Israetel and RP before. I'll take any specific recommendations you have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766813)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:52 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

You looking for hypertrophy, strength, or both?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766930)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:55 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

I've been cutting and trying for whatever hypertrophy can be gained (possible only because I backed off lifting for months before). So hypertrophy is the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766938)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 9:44 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

Here are a few options for you.

- 6 day PPL: https://liftvault.com/programs/strength/metallicadpa-ppl-template/

- 6 day PPL: https://liftvault.com/programs/strength/coolcicada-ppl-spreadsheet/

- 4 day split with two upper and lower days: https://liftvault.com/programs/strength/phul-spreadsheet/

- 3 day/week full body bodybuilding split; start the first week with your 10 rep max: https://liftvault.com/programs/bodybuilding/all-pro-simple-beginner-routine-program-spreadsheet/

- 2 on/1 off DUP routine I wrote; if you find the volume a bit much at first, you can reduce the top set from 5 to 4: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zz6oAGHp-DwT32pc386V7lcAGAYoE5L3uFeZqAT-jis/edit#gid=0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41767226)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 9:59 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

Thanks again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41767312)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 10:05 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

ofc, anytime. lmk if you have any questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41767353)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:45 PM
Author: Violent odious brunch antidepressant drug

Also, do you include any HIIT in your plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766891)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:56 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit

Not in the spreadsheets, but I recommend HIIT (done correctly based on heart rate zones), sprints, stair climber, assault bike intervals, and regular running.

I'd do small chunks like 15m of stair climber after your workouts, and do your longer sessions either on your rest days, or on your push days/after your leg days if you're not running a full body split.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766948)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 7:42 PM
Author: Lilac glittery indian lodge

Everything Hegemon says is CR.

But remember that none of it matters if you're in consistency with your training or if you're not eating enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766560)



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Date: January 16th, 2021 8:10 PM
Author: opaque fear-inspiring hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4741172&forum_id=2#41766715)