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Date: April 18th, 2021 8:56 PM Author: Nubile Giraffe
It's just words and conscious images that are naively tossed about as though heir invocation itself results in meaningful psychic change.
"Just say you're born again and that's all you have to do" lmao
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4813778&forum_id=2#42303916) |
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Date: April 18th, 2021 9:24 PM Author: Nubile Giraffe
Still waiting for an argument for Christian exclusivism. I doubt you can make one without making a category mistake, i.e., even though exclusivism is an empirical claim (there does not exist, and cannot exist, a religion or symbol system besides Christianity that is sogeriologically effective) you will likely only offer a priori arguments. (Go ahead and Google those words too.)
And even if you could offer a categorically coherent argument, the concept of "soteriological efficacy" is essentially meaningless since there is almost no data on post-death outcomes.
Our argument ultimately reduces to the problem of finding symbols and thought processes that elicit certain types of spiritually renewing ("soteriological") mental states, and you'll find any manner of religious, mystical or psychological language can accomplish that end.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4813778&forum_id=2#42304065) |
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Date: April 18th, 2021 10:04 PM Author: hairraiser lay
Did he make some men in such a way that they would/should have dicks in their butts in order to best serve him?
Did he make other men in such a way that they need to transition into appearing as women in order to best serve him?
The moment you claim that there is an action or behaviour that is not conducive to best aligning oneself with God, you are being exclusivist. Your just casting a more generous and less rigorous standard than Christianity.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4813778&forum_id=2#42304227) |
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Date: April 18th, 2021 9:32 PM Author: Nubile Giraffe
Yes but they are tools. The goal of Christianity like any religion or even psychotherapy is reunion with the self that God created.
Saying "I am saved" and doing the work that produces the mental state of "salvation" are seperate things.
Evangelicals seem to think it's a decision, and so religion becomes this very egoistic symbol manipulation game.
I am concerned for example to ensure redemption is truly an act of God and of the unconscious and not something the Christian, who "knows how this ends" so to speak, wills on his environment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4813778&forum_id=2#42304106) |
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Date: April 18th, 2021 9:55 PM Author: Nubile Giraffe
Ty friend felt like this actually addressed my concern head on and pretty convincing argued against psychology as the queen of religions...
What's missing in Jung is the idea that synchronicity is something more than a "haha holy shit" thing for the individual. He's totally missing the Christian/hegelian world teleological stuff.
I think Jung (surprisingly, since Freud thought this too) ultimately wants to say the world is going to shit and we're going to kill ourselves.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4813778&forum_id=2#42304191) |
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