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I honestly don't understand the opposition to the vaccine

I understand opposing the mandates, etc.
yapping state partner
  10/18/21
for one, why is it necessary for *everyone* to get it especi...
Peach scourge upon the earth
  10/18/21
Your first mistake: considering it a vaccine.
jet cruel-hearted lodge
  10/18/21
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Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse
  10/18/21
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wild generalized bond
  10/19/21
its the flu
Mint Rambunctious University
  10/18/21
I know quite a few people that have died from covid, I don't...
yapping state partner
  10/18/21
180 hopefully you die too you fat faggot
Mint Rambunctious University
  10/18/21
Nobody you know died of pneumonia,?
Angry giraffe gay wizard
  10/18/21
not a single person
yapping state partner
  10/18/21
my grandmother died of pneumonia. another older family frie...
High-end hairraiser indian lodge
  10/18/21
People used to call it "old man's best friend" for...
contagious learning disabled stage jew
  10/18/21
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dun immigrant
  10/20/21
describe their obesity
Grizzly locale
  10/18/21
Did you ever consider that your experience is an outlier bas...
Overrated Senate Halford
  10/18/21
(newly hired nursing home orderly)
Nubile cumskin sanctuary
  10/18/21
No you don't, glownigger sorosbot
180 wine pistol
  10/18/21
lol xo, never change
violent brass gaming laptop hell
  10/18/21
It hasn't been through any of the normal testing requirement...
Nubile cumskin sanctuary
  10/18/21
fuck joe biden that's why
Provocative Azn
  10/18/21
I didn't get the vax at first out of laziness mainly, becaus...
Angry giraffe gay wizard
  10/18/21
pretty much sums up my experience/thought process exactly as...
Mustard plaza tank
  10/18/21
Same here except I didn’t get it at first because it b...
deranged weed whacker therapy
  10/18/21
Why ON EARTH would I risk being poked with the CLOT SHOT (/m...
Pea-brained Tattoo
  10/18/21
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frum abode
  10/18/21
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garnet cheese-eating spot
  10/18/21
Apparently if you throw enough money at it, you can eliminat...
jet cruel-hearted lodge
  10/18/21
It’s been out being live tested for over a year now. I...
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/18/21
I believe 8 years of data was the minimum for vaxing pregnan...
embarrassed to the bone aquamarine really tough guy
  10/18/21
You’re a pregnant woman? And 8 years isn’t neces...
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/19/21
"mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade" and...
electric theatre voyeur
  10/19/21
You can think the whole of FDA-corrupted bigpharma is fraud....
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/20/21
maybe the FDA is a giant fraud acting as an unnecessary brak...
Titillating athletic conference milk
  10/18/21
Designed to be an expense too high for small biotechs to inc...
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/19/21
it's just a tribal thing at this point people really fuck...
Mustard plaza tank
  10/18/21
Are you gonna bother to address the points raised here or do...
saffron point
  10/18/21
i think you responded to the wrong guy
Mustard plaza tank
  10/18/21
You: its tribal they just hate libs! Me: are you going to...
saffron point
  10/18/21
I know quite a few libs that won't get vaccinated either, fw...
yapping state partner
  10/18/21
It reprograms your cells to produce foreign pathogens. Th...
Opaque geriatric pisswyrm crackhouse
  10/18/21
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spectacular business firm
  10/18/21
this thread gets made every 6 days. don't know why anyone re...
White metal cuckoldry dog poop
  10/18/21
And the funny thing is, the people who poast this question n...
comical messiness stead
  10/18/21
What is the largest metropolitan area without a major sports...
yapping state partner
  10/18/21
At a certain point empiricism must prevail and reason will b...
Lascivious Parlour Shitlib
  10/18/21
Right. So until there is evidence that previously infected ...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/18/21
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infuriating fragrant boiling water
  10/18/21
Whether you agree or not, certainly you can understand not w...
talented brunch macaca
  10/18/21
The absolute stupidest part is that the population that logi...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/18/21
Mandates were never about saving lives.
Overrated Senate Halford
  10/18/21
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Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse
  10/18/21
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Slippery glassy resort
  10/18/21
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talented brunch macaca
  10/18/21
The vax rates among the elderly and those in professions wit...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
i am young and healthy and am very unlikely to become seriou...
Violet cerebral prole son of senegal
  10/18/21
What would the objective risk from Covid have to be for you ...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
i took the vaccine, but i did a cost benefit analysis first....
Violet cerebral prole son of senegal
  10/18/21
The issue I have is that mandates seem to be pretty successf...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
i think the majority of the unvaxx'd aren't vaxx'd because o...
Violet cerebral prole son of senegal
  10/18/21
But see Coal Miners, Naval Yard workers, oil rig workers, ro...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/19/21
It’s an unknown. There can’t be any long term d...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/18/21
That's a copout. Obviously if Covid was as deadly as smallpo...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
The obvious point is: risk of disease > risk of vax side ...
carmine thriller quadroon
  10/18/21
But it's been argued repeatedly that no one knows the risk o...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially ...
carmine thriller quadroon
  10/18/21
"For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essent...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
take that "my man" shit back to reddit
carmine thriller quadroon
  10/18/21
It's a mannerism I picked up from my dad.
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
Shut the fuck up "my dude" and suck some more Redd...
180 wine pistol
  10/18/21
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carmine thriller quadroon
  10/18/21
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blue area famous landscape painting
  10/18/21
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Provocative Azn
  10/18/21
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Mint Rambunctious University
  10/19/21
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Overrated Senate Halford
  10/19/21
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Aqua Gas Station Community Account
  10/19/21
no worries bro
confused base
  10/19/21
I’d consider a vaccine if I didn’t already have ...
deranged weed whacker therapy
  10/18/21
No. Drunkard said it pretty well above.
Hideous lake marketing idea
  10/18/21
So what's the percent risk of serious complications?
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
To what? The vax?
Hideous lake marketing idea
  10/18/21
Yea.
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
Depends on the person and how you define serious. Is g...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/18/21
Have to make an educated guess. The smallpox vaccine was in...
Ruby Laughsome House
  10/18/21
10m dead Americans annually. no bullshit numbers either. i n...
White metal cuckoldry dog poop
  10/18/21
I'm against government mandates, I don't think it should be ...
Appetizing outnumbered corner karate
  10/18/21
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/18/21
(x16) MOTHERFUCKER! UGH!!!
Milky Concupiscible Parlor Trust Fund
  10/18/21
Low IQ, sad
Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse
  10/18/21
I'll play. No one is against the existence of the COVID vac...
wild generalized bond
  10/19/21
This isn't true though. Just look around this forum. Or: ...
Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye
  10/19/21
Yeah, ok, I guess there's the "we just don't trust the ...
wild generalized bond
  10/19/21
it is also a response to the vaccine not working and killing...
Mint Rambunctious University
  10/19/21
I don't think it's a response to mandates. It's just wackos ...
Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye
  10/19/21
Of course it is. There's no good reason to force the vaccin...
wild generalized bond
  10/19/21
People were bleating about microchips well before mandates w...
Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye
  10/19/21
Bullshit. A bunch of us were talking about forced vaccines ...
wild generalized bond
  10/19/21
Lol at citing "a bunch of us"
Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye
  10/20/21
There's a poaster directly above talking about how vaccines ...
wonderful red dragon
  10/20/21
...
Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye
  10/20/21
That's not true, though. There are plenty of people who thi...
wonderful red dragon
  10/19/21
It doesn't confer immunity
Olive Stubborn Gaping
  10/19/21
Same, really. I don't understand people who are willing to ...
Supple property
  10/19/21
Yep
dead duck-like stock car gunner
  10/19/21
Some people think selling out a principle is a big deal, eve...
wonderful red dragon
  10/19/21
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yapping state partner
  10/19/21
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jet cruel-hearted lodge
  10/20/21
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wild generalized bond
  10/20/21
I took the vax, but I totally disagree with you. If you don&...
Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican
  10/20/21
CorpGovMedia has entered a phase wherein no dissent against ...
dun immigrant
  10/20/21


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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:21 PM
Author: yapping state partner

I understand opposing the mandates, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290907)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:26 PM
Author: Peach scourge upon the earth

for one, why is it necessary for *everyone* to get it especially young kids if it's more like a flu shot than a vaccine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290927)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:27 PM
Author: jet cruel-hearted lodge

Your first mistake: considering it a vaccine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290933)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291301)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:27 AM
Author: wild generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295724)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Mint Rambunctious University

its the flu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290937)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:00 PM
Author: yapping state partner

I know quite a few people that have died from covid, I don't know anyone that has died from the flu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291092)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: Mint Rambunctious University

180 hopefully you die too you fat faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291105)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: Angry giraffe gay wizard

Nobody you know died of pneumonia,?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291121)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: yapping state partner

not a single person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291124)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:52 PM
Author: High-end hairraiser indian lodge

my grandmother died of pneumonia. another older family friend died of pneumonia. its common.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291418)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: contagious learning disabled stage jew

People used to call it "old man's best friend" for a reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291540)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:21 PM
Author: dun immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303327)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:11 PM
Author: Grizzly locale

describe their obesity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291154)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:14 PM
Author: Overrated Senate Halford

Did you ever consider that your experience is an outlier based on raw data for Covid mortality and that your opinion on the vaccine might be colored by these anecdotal observations before proclaiming that you don't understand how other people don't see it the same as you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291160)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Nubile cumskin sanctuary

(newly hired nursing home orderly)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291216)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: 180 wine pistol

No you don't, glownigger sorosbot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291405)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:33 PM
Author: violent brass gaming laptop hell

lol xo, never change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291710)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Nubile cumskin sanctuary

It hasn't been through any of the normal testing requirements. I presume the old testing requirements had good justifications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290938)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Provocative Azn

fuck joe biden that's why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290939)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Angry giraffe gay wizard

I didn't get the vax at first out of laziness mainly, because I saw the stats and I have only a miniscule chance of dying from Covid so I didn't feel any urgency. Then people l know who were vaxed got Covid and I didn't see the point. Then the evidence came in that the vax wears out and they started talking about boosters and then I began to positively refuse the vax. Lol if I'm submitting to endless boosters for a disease that kills 0.2%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290941)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: Mustard plaza tank

pretty much sums up my experience/thought process exactly as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290974)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:05 PM
Author: deranged weed whacker therapy

Same here except I didn’t get it at first because it became available after I’d already had covid so I didn’t see the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291914)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: Pea-brained Tattoo

Why ON EARTH would I risk being poked with the CLOT SHOT (/myocarditis shot) when I already had COVID (the sniffles for three days)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290950)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:59 PM
Author: frum abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291462)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:31 PM
Author: garnet cheese-eating spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290957)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:34 PM
Author: jet cruel-hearted lodge

Apparently if you throw enough money at it, you can eliminate time as a biological variable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290975)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

It’s been out being live tested for over a year now. I understand this logic in 2020, but it doesn’t really hold anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291640)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:26 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aquamarine really tough guy

I believe 8 years of data was the minimum for vaxing pregnant women before. Are studies replicate that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291652)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:27 AM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

You’re a pregnant woman? And 8 years isn’t necessary for each vaccine. They make the flu vaccine each year. The needed to test the delivery mechanism, but mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295957)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:22 PM
Author: electric theatre voyeur

"mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade" and they couldn't get it right except during Operation Warp Speed when they miraculously figured it out. Dude, seriously, stop lionizing BigPharma and the gov't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296393)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 4:20 PM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

You can think the whole of FDA-corrupted bigpharma is fraud. That’s totally understandable. But to think this is substantially more fraud than normal is disingenuous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43302907)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:32 PM
Author: Titillating athletic conference milk

maybe the FDA is a giant fraud acting as an unnecessary brake on medical progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292894)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:26 AM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

Designed to be an expense too high for small biotechs to incur, which forces them to sell to bigpharma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295951)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: Mustard plaza tank

it's just a tribal thing at this point

people really fucking hate libs, it's that simple

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290969)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:55 PM
Author: saffron point

Are you gonna bother to address the points raised here or does your post speak for itself (ie youre flame or retarded)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291068)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:01 PM
Author: Mustard plaza tank

i think you responded to the wrong guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291093)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 7:20 PM
Author: saffron point

You: its tribal they just hate libs!

Me: are you going to actually respond to any of the points raised?

You: hurrdurr you responded to the wrong guy!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43293055)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:01 PM
Author: yapping state partner

I know quite a few libs that won't get vaccinated either, fwiw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291098)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:41 PM
Author: Opaque geriatric pisswyrm crackhouse

It reprograms your cells to produce foreign pathogens.

There is no legal recourse if it causes injury.

It is inferior to natural immunity.

The agenda setting, censorship, and propaganda is creepy and suspicious and I don't trust our rulers.

I don't "oppose" the vaccine per se, my attitude is simply, "Nah, I'm good." Same attitude I take toward millions of substances I could inject into my bloodstream.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291010)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:31 PM
Author: spectacular business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292889)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: White metal cuckoldry dog poop

this thread gets made every 6 days. don't know why anyone responds at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291021)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: comical messiness stead

And the funny thing is, the people who poast this question never actually respond to the replies that they get in the thread. I wonder why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291042)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: yapping state partner

What is the largest metropolitan area without a major sports team?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291103)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:56 PM
Author: Lascivious Parlour Shitlib

At a certain point empiricism must prevail and reason will be crowned king

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291075)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:18 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

Right. So until there is evidence that previously infected are dying or being hospitalized on reinfection, there is no point for those people to be vaccinated. Also, in the UK, only vulnerable children are being offerred the jab as it has been determined that the risks of general vaccination of children outweigh the benefits. Finally, given the lack of efficacy against infection and spread of the vaccines (more vax infected than unvax infected per capita 40 and up in UK), any claimed benefit of the vaccine to anyone other than the recipient is nonsense.

All of these make mandates wrong. If it were more deadly, if there were no immunity from prior infection, if the vaccines worked as advertised, if the vaccines had no adverse effects, if if if … then there could be an argument for mandates (like smallpox), but reason is playing no part in any of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291197)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 11:12 PM
Author: infuriating fragrant boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43294278)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: talented brunch macaca

Whether you agree or not, certainly you can understand not wanting to be injected with an unnecessary drug. For non-vulnerable people, there is an almost zero chance that the virus will make them seriously ill. It seems perfectly reasonable and rational for a person to weigh getting kind of sick for a couple days as a better option than being injected by a drug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291186)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:21 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

The absolute stupidest part is that the population that logically should be mandated, if anyone: the vulnerable and not prior infected, are the ones not subject to mandates because they don’t work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291206)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:25 PM
Author: Overrated Senate Halford

Mandates were never about saving lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291237)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:41 PM
Author: Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291334)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:16 PM
Author: Slippery glassy resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292795)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:56 PM
Author: talented brunch macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291446)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:24 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

The vax rates among the elderly and those in professions with mandates (in the high 90s) shows there's at least ostensibly some kind of risk/reward analysis going on, however subconscious it might be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291227)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:26 PM
Author: Violet cerebral prole son of senegal

i am young and healthy and am very unlikely to become seriously ill or die from covid.

i've already had covid, and natural immunity is pretty good (arguably superior to the vaccine).

the vaccines were rushed through and no one can know what the long term risks and effects may be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291246)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:27 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

What would the objective risk from Covid have to be for you to take the vaccine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291253)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:31 PM
Author: Violet cerebral prole son of senegal

i took the vaccine, but i did a cost benefit analysis first. op just asked what the arguments against the vaccines are. it's pretty shortsighted and ignorant to pretend like there aren't *any* arguments against it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291268)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

The issue I have is that mandates seem to be pretty successful at forcing vaccination in a way you wouldn't expect it to if people were really resistant due to well defined risk level; like most people wouldn't take up smoking if their employer told them to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291290)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:40 PM
Author: Violet cerebral prole son of senegal

i think the majority of the unvaxx'd aren't vaxx'd because of any real fear of the vaccine, but because they just don't think covid is a big risk for them. and they're probably right. they may think: "why should i risk the side effects from the vaxx, which often at least includes a couple days of feeling like shit, when i am at low risk for becoming seriously ill anyway?"

these types of people are likely to cave if there are severe consequences for not getting vaxx'd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291330)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:24 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

But see Coal Miners, Naval Yard workers, oil rig workers, roofers, tree climbers, and many other dangerous jobs which people willingly did and do because it’s their paycheck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298363)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

It’s an unknown. There can’t be any long term data. The fact of previous infection increases the risk. At a minimum, there are a lot of adverse side effects (everything from having a sore arm for an extended period of time to fertility issues to death). While uncommon, the risk is substantial enough that for those with no proven benefit from vaccination (other than theoretically higher antibodies which might actually be detrimental).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291297)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

That's a copout. Obviously if Covid was as deadly as smallpox you'd get the vaccine. So there must be some point along a spectrum of "as deadly as the flu" to "1 in 3 chance of death, permanent disfigurement" at which you'd get the vaccine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291312)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:39 PM
Author: carmine thriller quadroon

The obvious point is: risk of disease > risk of vax side effects

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291318)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:41 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

But it's been argued repeatedly that no one knows the risk of vax side effects. Does that mean that no matter how deadly a hypothetical disease was, you'd never consider taking an experimental vaccine for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291336)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: carmine thriller quadroon

For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially zero. Even if the risk of the vaccine is also approximately zero, the comparison is meaningless at these extremes.

I would prefer to not get the untested vaccine and have to deal with the ongoing anxiety of future health problems resulting from it. In comparison, I have had *zero* anxiety about COVID. For me then the calculation is clearly in favor of no-vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291365)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

"For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially zero"

That's why I asked how deadly would Covid have to be to consider taking it. It's a hypothetical my man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291385)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:49 PM
Author: carmine thriller quadroon

take that "my man" shit back to reddit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291394)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

It's a mannerism I picked up from my dad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291407)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:00 PM
Author: 180 wine pistol

Shut the fuck up "my dude" and suck some more Reddit soyboy cock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291476)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: carmine thriller quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291490)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: blue area famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291616)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:14 PM
Author: Provocative Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291978)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:57 AM
Author: Mint Rambunctious University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295829)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: Overrated Senate Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296233)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: Aqua Gas Station Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296234)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:52 PM
Author: confused base

no worries bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296494)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:21 PM
Author: deranged weed whacker therapy

I’d consider a vaccine if I didn’t already have the disease and the risk of death was 1 in 100 for my age group

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292024)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:47 PM
Author: Hideous lake marketing idea

No. Drunkard said it pretty well above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291379)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

So what's the percent risk of serious complications?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291389)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Hideous lake marketing idea

To what? The vax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291406)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

Yea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291433)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:59 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

Depends on the person and how you define serious.

Is getting your period for six months a serious side effect?

Is getting laid out sick for a week sick a serious side effect?

Is having random rashes for almost a year a serious side effect?

Is having chest pains a serious side effect?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291464)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Ruby Laughsome House

Have to make an educated guess. The smallpox vaccine was infection with a lesser virus (cowpox) so the vaccine could not be worse than getting the disease. Most vaccines work that way to an even greater degree, dead or attenuated virus, so the only opposition would be chance of getting the disease (which is a lot of the anti-vax on MMR etc. the diseases are not circulating).

Here, the vaccines are different than the disease, and have unknown risk profiles (both because of the lack of long term data and the lack of tracking of adverse events). And unlike previous vaccines, they are ineffective at preventing infection after a very short period of time. Which makes them leaky and that is another issue.

Add on the layer of the misinformation about them, especially the overselling and rushed nature of them, combined with the sporadic data which continues to get worse over time, and public health has a serious credibility and trust issue.

If I had and survived smallpox, I would not get the smallpox vaccine (and would have been exempt from any smallpox mandate).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291436)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: White metal cuckoldry dog poop

10m dead Americans annually. no bullshit numbers either. i need bodies in the streets. i should be required to shovel bodies an a monthly shift for forced vaxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291348)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Appetizing outnumbered corner karate

I'm against government mandates, I don't think it should be forced on anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291402)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291642)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: Milky Concupiscible Parlor Trust Fund

(x16)

MOTHERFUCKER!

UGH!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291666)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:24 PM
Author: Walnut Self-absorbed Sweet Tailpipe Meetinghouse

Low IQ, sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292839)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:39 AM
Author: wild generalized bond

I'll play. No one is against the existence of the COVID vaccines. All of the objections relate to the mandates, their presentation as a cure-all (all while continuing to demand masks and other COVID measures anyway), and the general political/media spin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295754)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:46 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye

This isn't true though. Just look around this forum. Or:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article252883663.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295777)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:55 AM
Author: wild generalized bond

Yeah, ok, I guess there's the "we just don't trust the vaccine crowd", which is a response to the insane mandates and the other points I mentioned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295821)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:58 AM
Author: Mint Rambunctious University

it is also a response to the vaccine not working and killing people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295834)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:00 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye

I don't think it's a response to mandates. It's just wackos being wacky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296074)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: wild generalized bond

Of course it is. There's no good reason to force the vaccine on everyone, including kids that have little risk from COVID. That's going to breed conspiracy theories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296214)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye

People were bleating about microchips well before mandates were widely discussed much less implemented

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296490)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:11 PM
Author: wild generalized bond

Bullshit. A bunch of us were talking about forced vaccines as soon as they came out. We were PROMISED that would never, ever happen. Then it did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298282)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:05 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye

Lol at citing "a bunch of us"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303177)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:32 PM
Author: wonderful red dragon

There's a poaster directly above talking about how vaccines don't work and kill people. That's not just opposition to a mandate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303407)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:39 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good talking rehab round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303436)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:17 PM
Author: wonderful red dragon

That's not true, though. There are plenty of people who think the vaccines themselves are awful, dangerous, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298323)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:47 AM
Author: Olive Stubborn Gaping

It doesn't confer immunity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295781)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:28 AM
Author: Supple property

Same, really. I don't understand people who are willing to lose their jobs over it, for example. It just doesn't seem that important to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295961)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: dead duck-like stock car gunner

Yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298313)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:22 PM
Author: wonderful red dragon

Some people think selling out a principle is a big deal, even if the principle is applied to a minor issue. It's depressing how many people don't or won't understand that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298349)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:56 PM
Author: yapping state partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298460)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 12:31 AM
Author: jet cruel-hearted lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43299889)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 10:52 AM
Author: wild generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43301115)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 4:23 PM
Author: Bisexual Mad Cow Disease Mexican

I took the vax, but I totally disagree with you. If you don’t want to put something in your body—anything—then you should not be forced to, and the fact that we have so many people principled enough to lose their job to keep the government from invading our bodies is 180 and gives me hope for the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43302912)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 10:56 AM
Author: dun immigrant

CorpGovMedia has entered a phase wherein no dissent against the narrative (ANY narrative) can be tolerated...it is now de facto permissible to do or say almost ANYTHING in support of the narrative...that makes taking these shots a bit dangerous....because the shots are part of a narrative that is very important to CorpGovMedia, and that means that anything negative about the shot will be suppressed...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43301147)