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I honestly don't understand the opposition to the vaccine

I understand opposing the mandates, etc.
blue floppy dog poop
  10/18/21
for one, why is it necessary for *everyone* to get it especi...
Insecure buff useless brakes
  10/18/21
Your first mistake: considering it a vaccine.
frozen national dragon
  10/18/21
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  10/18/21
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angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/19/21
its the flu
Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account
  10/18/21
I know quite a few people that have died from covid, I don't...
blue floppy dog poop
  10/18/21
180 hopefully you die too you fat faggot
Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account
  10/18/21
Nobody you know died of pneumonia,?
Contagious brass jew
  10/18/21
not a single person
blue floppy dog poop
  10/18/21
my grandmother died of pneumonia. another older family frie...
Aromatic hairy legs juggernaut
  10/18/21
People used to call it "old man's best friend" for...
Fishy Meetinghouse Keepsake Machete
  10/18/21
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submissive ungodly athletic conference
  10/20/21
describe their obesity
pearly regret
  10/18/21
Did you ever consider that your experience is an outlier bas...
Sepia Idea He Suggested Ticket Booth
  10/18/21
(newly hired nursing home orderly)
glittery amber son of senegal
  10/18/21
No you don't, glownigger sorosbot
irradiated black quadroon step-uncle's house
  10/18/21
lol xo, never change
Spectacular Indirect Expression Sound Barrier
  10/18/21
It hasn't been through any of the normal testing requirement...
glittery amber son of senegal
  10/18/21
fuck joe biden that's why
Ocher preventive strike feces
  10/18/21
I didn't get the vax at first out of laziness mainly, becaus...
Contagious brass jew
  10/18/21
pretty much sums up my experience/thought process exactly as...
avocado native wrinkle
  10/18/21
Same here except I didn’t get it at first because it b...
copper coffee pot plaza
  10/18/21
Why ON EARTH would I risk being poked with the CLOT SHOT (/m...
Razzmatazz corn cake
  10/18/21
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  10/18/21
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Heady Senate Headpube
  10/18/21
Apparently if you throw enough money at it, you can eliminat...
frozen national dragon
  10/18/21
It’s been out being live tested for over a year now. I...
concupiscible onyx university
  10/18/21
I believe 8 years of data was the minimum for vaxing pregnan...
Beady-eyed pistol
  10/18/21
You’re a pregnant woman? And 8 years isn’t neces...
concupiscible onyx university
  10/19/21
"mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade" and...
Histrionic Wild Den
  10/19/21
You can think the whole of FDA-corrupted bigpharma is fraud....
concupiscible onyx university
  10/20/21
maybe the FDA is a giant fraud acting as an unnecessary brak...
passionate tripping property rigpig
  10/18/21
Designed to be an expense too high for small biotechs to inc...
concupiscible onyx university
  10/19/21
it's just a tribal thing at this point people really fuck...
avocado native wrinkle
  10/18/21
Are you gonna bother to address the points raised here or do...
Wine Home
  10/18/21
i think you responded to the wrong guy
avocado native wrinkle
  10/18/21
You: its tribal they just hate libs! Me: are you going to...
Wine Home
  10/18/21
I know quite a few libs that won't get vaccinated either, fw...
blue floppy dog poop
  10/18/21
It reprograms your cells to produce foreign pathogens. Th...
Buck-toothed scourge upon the earth menage
  10/18/21
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Shimmering soggy station
  10/18/21
this thread gets made every 6 days. don't know why anyone re...
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  10/18/21
And the funny thing is, the people who poast this question n...
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  10/18/21
What is the largest metropolitan area without a major sports...
blue floppy dog poop
  10/18/21
At a certain point empiricism must prevail and reason will b...
Arousing snowy theatre turdskin
  10/18/21
Right. So until there is evidence that previously infected ...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/18/21
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trip pisswyrm philosopher-king
  10/18/21
Whether you agree or not, certainly you can understand not w...
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  10/18/21
The absolute stupidest part is that the population that logi...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/18/21
Mandates were never about saving lives.
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  10/18/21
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  10/18/21
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  10/18/21
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  10/18/21
The vax rates among the elderly and those in professions wit...
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  10/18/21
i am young and healthy and am very unlikely to become seriou...
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  10/18/21
What would the objective risk from Covid have to be for you ...
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  10/18/21
i took the vaccine, but i did a cost benefit analysis first....
razzle public bath jap
  10/18/21
The issue I have is that mandates seem to be pretty successf...
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
i think the majority of the unvaxx'd aren't vaxx'd because o...
razzle public bath jap
  10/18/21
But see Coal Miners, Naval Yard workers, oil rig workers, ro...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/19/21
It’s an unknown. There can’t be any long term d...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/18/21
That's a copout. Obviously if Covid was as deadly as smallpo...
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
The obvious point is: risk of disease > risk of vax side ...
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  10/18/21
But it's been argued repeatedly that no one knows the risk o...
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  10/18/21
For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially ...
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  10/18/21
"For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essent...
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
take that "my man" shit back to reddit
Erotic shivering toaster
  10/18/21
It's a mannerism I picked up from my dad.
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
Shut the fuck up "my dude" and suck some more Redd...
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  10/18/21
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  10/19/21
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Sepia Idea He Suggested Ticket Booth
  10/19/21
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Yapping Vengeful French Chef
  10/19/21
no worries bro
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  10/19/21
I’d consider a vaccine if I didn’t already have ...
copper coffee pot plaza
  10/18/21
No. Drunkard said it pretty well above.
Burgundy Razzle-dazzle Fanboi
  10/18/21
So what's the percent risk of serious complications?
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
To what? The vax?
Burgundy Razzle-dazzle Fanboi
  10/18/21
Yea.
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
Depends on the person and how you define serious. Is g...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/18/21
Have to make an educated guess. The smallpox vaccine was in...
topaz vigorous business firm
  10/18/21
10m dead Americans annually. no bullshit numbers either. i n...
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  10/18/21
I'm against government mandates, I don't think it should be ...
Exciting nubile ape selfie
  10/18/21
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
concupiscible onyx university
  10/18/21
(x16) MOTHERFUCKER! UGH!!!
Fantasy-prone Haunted Graveyard
  10/18/21
Low IQ, sad
slate rehab
  10/18/21
I'll play. No one is against the existence of the COVID vac...
angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/19/21
This isn't true though. Just look around this forum. Or: ...
Dull hunting ground
  10/19/21
Yeah, ok, I guess there's the "we just don't trust the ...
angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/19/21
it is also a response to the vaccine not working and killing...
Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account
  10/19/21
I don't think it's a response to mandates. It's just wackos ...
Dull hunting ground
  10/19/21
Of course it is. There's no good reason to force the vaccin...
angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/19/21
People were bleating about microchips well before mandates w...
Dull hunting ground
  10/19/21
Bullshit. A bunch of us were talking about forced vaccines ...
angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/19/21
Lol at citing "a bunch of us"
Dull hunting ground
  10/20/21
There's a poaster directly above talking about how vaccines ...
sickened forum
  10/20/21
...
Dull hunting ground
  10/20/21
That's not true, though. There are plenty of people who thi...
sickened forum
  10/19/21
It doesn't confer immunity
Pontificating becky
  10/19/21
Same, really. I don't understand people who are willing to ...
laughsome white parlour ladyboy
  10/19/21
Yep
Lake low-t circlehead
  10/19/21
Some people think selling out a principle is a big deal, eve...
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blue floppy dog poop
  10/19/21
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frozen national dragon
  10/20/21
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angry marvelous hall telephone
  10/20/21
I took the vax, but I totally disagree with you. If you don&...
concupiscible onyx university
  10/20/21
CorpGovMedia has entered a phase wherein no dissent against ...
submissive ungodly athletic conference
  10/20/21


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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:21 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop

I understand opposing the mandates, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290907)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:26 PM
Author: Insecure buff useless brakes

for one, why is it necessary for *everyone* to get it especially young kids if it's more like a flu shot than a vaccine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290927)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:27 PM
Author: frozen national dragon

Your first mistake: considering it a vaccine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290933)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: slate rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291301)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:27 AM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295724)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account

its the flu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290937)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:00 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop

I know quite a few people that have died from covid, I don't know anyone that has died from the flu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291092)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account

180 hopefully you die too you fat faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291105)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: Contagious brass jew

Nobody you know died of pneumonia,?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291121)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop

not a single person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291124)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:52 PM
Author: Aromatic hairy legs juggernaut

my grandmother died of pneumonia. another older family friend died of pneumonia. its common.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291418)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: Fishy Meetinghouse Keepsake Machete

People used to call it "old man's best friend" for a reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291540)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:21 PM
Author: submissive ungodly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303327)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:11 PM
Author: pearly regret

describe their obesity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291154)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:14 PM
Author: Sepia Idea He Suggested Ticket Booth

Did you ever consider that your experience is an outlier based on raw data for Covid mortality and that your opinion on the vaccine might be colored by these anecdotal observations before proclaiming that you don't understand how other people don't see it the same as you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291160)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: glittery amber son of senegal

(newly hired nursing home orderly)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291216)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: irradiated black quadroon step-uncle's house

No you don't, glownigger sorosbot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291405)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:33 PM
Author: Spectacular Indirect Expression Sound Barrier

lol xo, never change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291710)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: glittery amber son of senegal

It hasn't been through any of the normal testing requirements. I presume the old testing requirements had good justifications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290938)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Ocher preventive strike feces

fuck joe biden that's why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290939)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Contagious brass jew

I didn't get the vax at first out of laziness mainly, because I saw the stats and I have only a miniscule chance of dying from Covid so I didn't feel any urgency. Then people l know who were vaxed got Covid and I didn't see the point. Then the evidence came in that the vax wears out and they started talking about boosters and then I began to positively refuse the vax. Lol if I'm submitting to endless boosters for a disease that kills 0.2%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290941)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: avocado native wrinkle

pretty much sums up my experience/thought process exactly as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290974)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:05 PM
Author: copper coffee pot plaza

Same here except I didn’t get it at first because it became available after I’d already had covid so I didn’t see the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291914)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: Razzmatazz corn cake

Why ON EARTH would I risk being poked with the CLOT SHOT (/myocarditis shot) when I already had COVID (the sniffles for three days)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290950)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:59 PM
Author: Galvanic Stag Film Voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291462)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:31 PM
Author: Heady Senate Headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290957)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:34 PM
Author: frozen national dragon

Apparently if you throw enough money at it, you can eliminate time as a biological variable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290975)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

It’s been out being live tested for over a year now. I understand this logic in 2020, but it doesn’t really hold anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291640)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed pistol

I believe 8 years of data was the minimum for vaxing pregnant women before. Are studies replicate that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291652)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:27 AM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

You’re a pregnant woman? And 8 years isn’t necessary for each vaccine. They make the flu vaccine each year. The needed to test the delivery mechanism, but mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295957)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:22 PM
Author: Histrionic Wild Den

"mRNA has been in testing for nearly a decade" and they couldn't get it right except during Operation Warp Speed when they miraculously figured it out. Dude, seriously, stop lionizing BigPharma and the gov't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296393)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 4:20 PM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

You can think the whole of FDA-corrupted bigpharma is fraud. That’s totally understandable. But to think this is substantially more fraud than normal is disingenuous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43302907)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:32 PM
Author: passionate tripping property rigpig

maybe the FDA is a giant fraud acting as an unnecessary brake on medical progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292894)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:26 AM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

Designed to be an expense too high for small biotechs to incur, which forces them to sell to bigpharma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295951)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: avocado native wrinkle

it's just a tribal thing at this point

people really fucking hate libs, it's that simple

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43290969)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:55 PM
Author: Wine Home

Are you gonna bother to address the points raised here or does your post speak for itself (ie youre flame or retarded)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291068)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:01 PM
Author: avocado native wrinkle

i think you responded to the wrong guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291093)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 7:20 PM
Author: Wine Home

You: its tribal they just hate libs!

Me: are you going to actually respond to any of the points raised?

You: hurrdurr you responded to the wrong guy!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43293055)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:01 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop

I know quite a few libs that won't get vaccinated either, fwiw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291098)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:41 PM
Author: Buck-toothed scourge upon the earth menage

It reprograms your cells to produce foreign pathogens.

There is no legal recourse if it causes injury.

It is inferior to natural immunity.

The agenda setting, censorship, and propaganda is creepy and suspicious and I don't trust our rulers.

I don't "oppose" the vaccine per se, my attitude is simply, "Nah, I'm good." Same attitude I take toward millions of substances I could inject into my bloodstream.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291010)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:31 PM
Author: Shimmering soggy station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292889)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: dashing twisted partner cumskin

this thread gets made every 6 days. don't know why anyone responds at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291021)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: hairraiser kink-friendly kitchen

And the funny thing is, the people who poast this question never actually respond to the replies that they get in the thread. I wonder why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291042)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop

What is the largest metropolitan area without a major sports team?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291103)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 1:56 PM
Author: Arousing snowy theatre turdskin

At a certain point empiricism must prevail and reason will be crowned king

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291075)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:18 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

Right. So until there is evidence that previously infected are dying or being hospitalized on reinfection, there is no point for those people to be vaccinated. Also, in the UK, only vulnerable children are being offerred the jab as it has been determined that the risks of general vaccination of children outweigh the benefits. Finally, given the lack of efficacy against infection and spread of the vaccines (more vax infected than unvax infected per capita 40 and up in UK), any claimed benefit of the vaccine to anyone other than the recipient is nonsense.

All of these make mandates wrong. If it were more deadly, if there were no immunity from prior infection, if the vaccines worked as advertised, if the vaccines had no adverse effects, if if if … then there could be an argument for mandates (like smallpox), but reason is playing no part in any of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291197)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 11:12 PM
Author: trip pisswyrm philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43294278)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Sable arrogant bbw

Whether you agree or not, certainly you can understand not wanting to be injected with an unnecessary drug. For non-vulnerable people, there is an almost zero chance that the virus will make them seriously ill. It seems perfectly reasonable and rational for a person to weigh getting kind of sick for a couple days as a better option than being injected by a drug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291186)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:21 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

The absolute stupidest part is that the population that logically should be mandated, if anyone: the vulnerable and not prior infected, are the ones not subject to mandates because they don’t work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291206)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:25 PM
Author: Sepia Idea He Suggested Ticket Booth

Mandates were never about saving lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291237)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:41 PM
Author: slate rehab



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:16 PM
Author: titillating silver center



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:56 PM
Author: Sable arrogant bbw



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:24 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

The vax rates among the elderly and those in professions with mandates (in the high 90s) shows there's at least ostensibly some kind of risk/reward analysis going on, however subconscious it might be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291227)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:26 PM
Author: razzle public bath jap

i am young and healthy and am very unlikely to become seriously ill or die from covid.

i've already had covid, and natural immunity is pretty good (arguably superior to the vaccine).

the vaccines were rushed through and no one can know what the long term risks and effects may be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291246)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:27 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

What would the objective risk from Covid have to be for you to take the vaccine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291253)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:31 PM
Author: razzle public bath jap

i took the vaccine, but i did a cost benefit analysis first. op just asked what the arguments against the vaccines are. it's pretty shortsighted and ignorant to pretend like there aren't *any* arguments against it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291268)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

The issue I have is that mandates seem to be pretty successful at forcing vaccination in a way you wouldn't expect it to if people were really resistant due to well defined risk level; like most people wouldn't take up smoking if their employer told them to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291290)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:40 PM
Author: razzle public bath jap

i think the majority of the unvaxx'd aren't vaxx'd because of any real fear of the vaccine, but because they just don't think covid is a big risk for them. and they're probably right. they may think: "why should i risk the side effects from the vaxx, which often at least includes a couple days of feeling like shit, when i am at low risk for becoming seriously ill anyway?"

these types of people are likely to cave if there are severe consequences for not getting vaxx'd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291330)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:24 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

But see Coal Miners, Naval Yard workers, oil rig workers, roofers, tree climbers, and many other dangerous jobs which people willingly did and do because it’s their paycheck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298363)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

It’s an unknown. There can’t be any long term data. The fact of previous infection increases the risk. At a minimum, there are a lot of adverse side effects (everything from having a sore arm for an extended period of time to fertility issues to death). While uncommon, the risk is substantial enough that for those with no proven benefit from vaccination (other than theoretically higher antibodies which might actually be detrimental).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291297)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

That's a copout. Obviously if Covid was as deadly as smallpox you'd get the vaccine. So there must be some point along a spectrum of "as deadly as the flu" to "1 in 3 chance of death, permanent disfigurement" at which you'd get the vaccine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291312)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:39 PM
Author: Erotic shivering toaster

The obvious point is: risk of disease > risk of vax side effects

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291318)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:41 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

But it's been argued repeatedly that no one knows the risk of vax side effects. Does that mean that no matter how deadly a hypothetical disease was, you'd never consider taking an experimental vaccine for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291336)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: Erotic shivering toaster

For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially zero. Even if the risk of the vaccine is also approximately zero, the comparison is meaningless at these extremes.

I would prefer to not get the untested vaccine and have to deal with the ongoing anxiety of future health problems resulting from it. In comparison, I have had *zero* anxiety about COVID. For me then the calculation is clearly in favor of no-vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291365)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

"For a young healthy person the risk of COVID is essentially zero"

That's why I asked how deadly would Covid have to be to consider taking it. It's a hypothetical my man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291385)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:49 PM
Author: Erotic shivering toaster

take that "my man" shit back to reddit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291394)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

It's a mannerism I picked up from my dad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291407)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:00 PM
Author: irradiated black quadroon step-uncle's house

Shut the fuck up "my dude" and suck some more Reddit soyboy cock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291476)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: Erotic shivering toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291490)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: chartreuse stimulating skinny woman base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291616)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:14 PM
Author: Ocher preventive strike feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291978)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:57 AM
Author: Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295829)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: Sepia Idea He Suggested Ticket Booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296233)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: Yapping Vengeful French Chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296234)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:52 PM
Author: mahogany cuckold therapy

no worries bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296494)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 4:21 PM
Author: copper coffee pot plaza

I’d consider a vaccine if I didn’t already have the disease and the risk of death was 1 in 100 for my age group

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292024)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:47 PM
Author: Burgundy Razzle-dazzle Fanboi

No. Drunkard said it pretty well above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291379)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

So what's the percent risk of serious complications?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291389)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Burgundy Razzle-dazzle Fanboi

To what? The vax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291406)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

Yea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291433)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:59 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

Depends on the person and how you define serious.

Is getting your period for six months a serious side effect?

Is getting laid out sick for a week sick a serious side effect?

Is having random rashes for almost a year a serious side effect?

Is having chest pains a serious side effect?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291464)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: topaz vigorous business firm

Have to make an educated guess. The smallpox vaccine was infection with a lesser virus (cowpox) so the vaccine could not be worse than getting the disease. Most vaccines work that way to an even greater degree, dead or attenuated virus, so the only opposition would be chance of getting the disease (which is a lot of the anti-vax on MMR etc. the diseases are not circulating).

Here, the vaccines are different than the disease, and have unknown risk profiles (both because of the lack of long term data and the lack of tracking of adverse events). And unlike previous vaccines, they are ineffective at preventing infection after a very short period of time. Which makes them leaky and that is another issue.

Add on the layer of the misinformation about them, especially the overselling and rushed nature of them, combined with the sporadic data which continues to get worse over time, and public health has a serious credibility and trust issue.

If I had and survived smallpox, I would not get the smallpox vaccine (and would have been exempt from any smallpox mandate).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291436)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: dashing twisted partner cumskin

10m dead Americans annually. no bullshit numbers either. i need bodies in the streets. i should be required to shovel bodies an a monthly shift for forced vaxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291348)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Exciting nubile ape selfie

I'm against government mandates, I don't think it should be forced on anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291402)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291642)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Haunted Graveyard

(x16)

MOTHERFUCKER!

UGH!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43291666)



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Date: October 18th, 2021 6:24 PM
Author: slate rehab

Low IQ, sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43292839)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:39 AM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone

I'll play. No one is against the existence of the COVID vaccines. All of the objections relate to the mandates, their presentation as a cure-all (all while continuing to demand masks and other COVID measures anyway), and the general political/media spin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295754)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:46 AM
Author: Dull hunting ground

This isn't true though. Just look around this forum. Or:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article252883663.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295777)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:55 AM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone

Yeah, ok, I guess there's the "we just don't trust the vaccine crowd", which is a response to the insane mandates and the other points I mentioned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295821)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:58 AM
Author: Smoky Stirring Incel Community Account

it is also a response to the vaccine not working and killing people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295834)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:00 AM
Author: Dull hunting ground

I don't think it's a response to mandates. It's just wackos being wacky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296074)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone

Of course it is. There's no good reason to force the vaccine on everyone, including kids that have little risk from COVID. That's going to breed conspiracy theories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296214)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Dull hunting ground

People were bleating about microchips well before mandates were widely discussed much less implemented

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43296490)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:11 PM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone

Bullshit. A bunch of us were talking about forced vaccines as soon as they came out. We were PROMISED that would never, ever happen. Then it did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298282)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:05 PM
Author: Dull hunting ground

Lol at citing "a bunch of us"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303177)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:32 PM
Author: sickened forum

There's a poaster directly above talking about how vaccines don't work and kill people. That's not just opposition to a mandate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303407)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 5:39 PM
Author: Dull hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43303436)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:17 PM
Author: sickened forum

That's not true, though. There are plenty of people who think the vaccines themselves are awful, dangerous, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298323)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:47 AM
Author: Pontificating becky

It doesn't confer immunity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295781)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:28 AM
Author: laughsome white parlour ladyboy

Same, really. I don't understand people who are willing to lose their jobs over it, for example. It just doesn't seem that important to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43295961)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Lake low-t circlehead

Yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298313)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:22 PM
Author: sickened forum

Some people think selling out a principle is a big deal, even if the principle is applied to a minor issue. It's depressing how many people don't or won't understand that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298349)



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Date: October 19th, 2021 7:56 PM
Author: blue floppy dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43298460)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 12:31 AM
Author: frozen national dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43299889)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 10:52 AM
Author: angry marvelous hall telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43301115)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 4:23 PM
Author: concupiscible onyx university

I took the vax, but I totally disagree with you. If you don’t want to put something in your body—anything—then you should not be forced to, and the fact that we have so many people principled enough to lose their job to keep the government from invading our bodies is 180 and gives me hope for the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43302912)



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Date: October 20th, 2021 10:56 AM
Author: submissive ungodly athletic conference

CorpGovMedia has entered a phase wherein no dissent against the narrative (ANY narrative) can be tolerated...it is now de facto permissible to do or say almost ANYTHING in support of the narrative...that makes taking these shots a bit dangerous....because the shots are part of a narrative that is very important to CorpGovMedia, and that means that anything negative about the shot will be suppressed...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4944654&forum_id=2#43301147)