Why is there such a weird societal complacency around AI
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Date: March 9th, 2024 9:14 AM Author: cerebral pearly site
> It's apparent that it has some sort of world model that it can use for making inferences.
this is the faulty premise that is causing you to unreasonably panic. it doesn't have a "model" at all in the sense of a human explanatory model. it just turns out that you can get incredibly, shockingly, breathtakingly far in creating the appearance of having such a model by doing predict-the-next-most-likely-word math hijinks. nifty and interesting and a tool with useful applications, but just a tool
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Date: March 9th, 2024 10:56 PM Author: fragrant poppy box office kitty cat
at parties, i regularly explain, in five minutes, how chatgpt works
it is, at its root, matrix multiplication where the dimensions of the matrix are huge (hence why it's run on GPUs, which are the tits at matrix multiplication) and the result is predicting the next word in a sentence based on the foregoing words in the sentence plus the prompt plus the corpus of all text it has read
it doesn't reason and it doesn't understand; hell, it doesn't even apply grammar rules
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Date: March 8th, 2024 10:50 PM Author: marvelous ocher house
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/have-it-your-way-mcdonalds-first-fully-automated-restaurant-with-no-human-contact-in-fort-worth/amp/
I guess they're at it again
It's not difficult to imagine and I'm not some restaurant mgmt mfe either. Minimize the points of contact for the customer and you don't have to worry about vandalism or whatever third world problems we have in polyglot New Babylon now. The machinery has been around for decades and afaik was rolled out in Asia before it was (considered) here
The only thing that was missing was mgmt will to ram it through PR-wise
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Date: March 8th, 2024 10:37 PM Author: Crimson Market
normies are just incredibly stupid
AI could literally be mass exterminating humans with swarms of nanobot robots and normies would still be arguing with each other about the latest netflix episode of random goyslop or heckin sportsball game result or petty office gossip
they do not care about anything but themselves and their own lives. in fact they are not even physiologically able to care about anything else
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Date: March 8th, 2024 10:38 PM Author: Stimulating Carmine Ladyboy
Totally agree. AI is going to fuck humanity so hard, and people are oblivious.
“It will create new jobs! Dur durr!”
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Date: March 9th, 2024 9:34 AM Author: Free-loading base
LLM's are not accessible to the general public so most treat it like any other news story about how in the future some xyz technology is going to change everything (some curiosity and skepticism but not much thought).
I am absolutely terrified. But I will fight on, like John Henry.
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Date: March 9th, 2024 11:42 AM Author: Crimson Market
yep
the actual answer is that normies are stupid and self-absorbed as fuck
see my poast above
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Date: March 9th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: mentally impaired bronze codepig personal credit line
partially because the tech industry hypes shit up constantly and they're currently doing it for AI even when it obviously has some real massive potential to be a game-changer. there will be a ton of retarded attempts to cash in on AI that fail very publicly, and that's true even if it winds up being as big a deal as the transhumanists expect in the long term
partially because there's a large chunk of humans that just take for granted that true AGI is impossible. the most honest of these people is the 90 IQ religious normie who will tell you that humans have souls and machines don't, so obviously there's no real threat from AI becoming smart. the smarter and more subtle version of this is people who in principle accept metaphysical naturalism, reductionism, etc but still insist there's some magic spark inside human brains that will take centuries for science to unravel, if ever. i can't prove they are wrong but they are very obviously engaging in motivated reasoning with this shit.
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Date: March 9th, 2024 10:54 PM Author: fragrant poppy box office kitty cat
>there is little reason for believing this complex reasoning is far off
There's actually huge reasons for believing this complex reasoning is so far off it's never gonna happen. xo is just retarded like all the foomers
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Date: March 10th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: beady-eyed pisswyrm newt
Sure signs of being an LLM critic retard:
1. Uses the “it’s just a next token predictor” argument. Ignores what optimal token prediction looks like at the limit. Also says they are just matrix multiplications with non-linearities. Like this says anything meaningful about whether they can emulate biological neural computation. You could be a reductionist idiot with brains too if you didn’t know what they did.
2. Never sets fixed goal posts for actual cognition or reasoning. Look how quickly people who had all sorts of handy examples of GPT-3 failures as proof of this ignored the fixes with GPT-4 and started complaining about something else.
3. Highlights LLM failures while ignoring their flexibility in comparison to most humans. I would trust GPT-4 more to get an SAT question right (not from its training corpus) than a typical human. People are retarded in all sorts of ways LLMs aren’t. Maybe they can’t reason either (I actually like this argument in a way - most people seem like limited pattern matchers who can only make basic inferences from their limited world model. But I think deep sort of reasoning can’t be far away considering intelligent people have the same basic biological substrate with a few genetic differences)
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Date: March 10th, 2024 11:53 PM Author: Free-loading base
Just curious. How would you respond to this critique?
“ Other skeptics are critical of the technology itself, with AI analyst Gary Marcus saying that hallucinations (where AI systems such as ChatGPT make up or mangle facts) are not a simple problem to get rid of.
Marcus believes this intractable problem could stop AI from delivering the financial returns its advocates expect.
Marcus told the Financial Times, ‘There is a fantasy that if you add more data, it will work. But you cannot succeed in crushing the problem with data.’
Marcus pointed to previously highly hyped AI technologies, such as Facebook’s AI assistant M or IBM’s Watson, which promised world-changing results but were under-delivering.
Marcus wrote on his Substack, ‘Hallucinations are in their silicon blood, a byproduct of the way they compress their inputs, losing track of factual relations in the process. I first pointed out this risk in 2001, in the fifth chapter of my book The Algebraic Mind, and the problem has persisted ever since. To blithely assume that the problem will soon disappear is to ignore 20 years of history.”
Marcus says that he believes the problem of AI hallucinations will eventually be ironed out, but no one knows whether the technological breakthroughs to solve the problem will arrive in months, years, or decades.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5501700&forum_id=2#47482187)
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