Dune 2 is massively overrated, Villeneuve is a competent hack
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Date: March 10th, 2024 11:28 PM Author: filthy resort
first hour or so had some great action scenes, pacing was fine. it falls apart once the little harkonnen mini-movie ends. many blown opportunities for great set pieces and moments. the acting was LOL worthy throughout, same as the first one.
DV is a fraud. i do not understand why people praise this guy so much. he delivers bland movies that seem like they have style or ideas or other signs of quality. but they're all bland big budget retreads that stay on the right side of 'tasteful' often enough to give the illusion of actually being thoughtful. he does have the good sense to work with great cinematographers and production designers and other craftsman with actual talent.
LMAO at sci fi dorks trying to convince everyone this is a great film.
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Date: March 10th, 2024 11:49 PM Author: filthy resort
i'm not saying it needed more mindless action. i am saying they blew some chances to create great action scenes in what is ultimately an action sci-fi movie that is built around big action set-pieces.
the opening scene and the scene where paul and chani work together to take out the harvester is great action, well done. the essentially fail to replicate that quality at any other point.
multiple people burst out laughing in the theater when they're preparing for the climactic final battle for control of the galactic civilization with a nuclear-powered sandworm attack with tens of thousands of fighters with lines drawn in the sand and rocks and sticks and shit. or when paul convinces the entire fremen society that he is the prophet by doing a john edward/tent revival mind-reading act with two guys. the brilliant minds who threw this shit into the movie failed to capitalize on making low-hanging fruit like riding the sandworms exciting or interesting.
there is nothing smart or tasteful or restrained about dune 2 (or the first one). they're movies made by a dumbass yeoman who people assume is thoughtful.
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Date: March 10th, 2024 11:39 PM Author: Frozen ratface
Dune II was 180.
Also really good and sticking with the book in almost every way.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:13 AM Author: Light splenetic theatre factory reset button
the combat was cheese dick trash with 100lb mystery meat women leg sweeping 220lb harkonnen warriors and killing them with glancing dagger slashes to their armor.
romance scenes were so bad I had to stifle my audible LOL in the theater at closeups of zendaya's hideous negroid face in leadup to the makeout session
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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:16 AM Author: Chartreuse Stimulating Kitty Cat Whorehouse
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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:32 AM Author: motley home goyim
Villeneuve has said he is not interested in plot or dialogue and that they are a necessary evil to framing the scenes he wants to visualize.
That is clear in blade runner 2049 where so much is campy, schlock or just red herrings, but the images communicate the theme of human life being degraded by biotechnology
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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:12 AM Author: charcoal jew
In short: modern right wingers A. are incapable of fully embracing death of the author and by extension B. need their beliefs parroted back to them shamelessly (Sound of Freedom style) to believe that a movie is “good”
To tie this back to Dune: biggest reason people seem to be dunking on this movie in RW circles that because Hebert and Villeneuve seem to fully believe they’ve made a movie about the dangers of fascism. Unfortunately they haven’t. The made a movie where fascism is cool and obviously the correct choice for Arakkis. The truth is stronger than the artist’s interpretation of it.
Another example of this: Zendaya as Chani is obviously annoying. But she’s just wrong. In the end she leaves dejected while Paul ascends to the throne. Obviously the director is trying to paint her as the only sane one. Who cares. She’s wrong. Paul wins. The fremen win.
The only leftist art that is truly bad is the art that subverts reality in order to fit their narrative. Dune succeeds because the underlying story is true - regardless how the storytellers seethe about it.
But once again, this is why the current right is incapable of making good art, they just make shit that parrots what they believe.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:56 AM Author: cerise outnumbered pocket flask
It's a Jewish power fantasy from beginning to end.
Paul looks like a Jewish caricature. The Harkonnen are comically evil and a cartoonish mockery of both Imperial Rome and Nazi Germany. Paul seduces and defiles his own le 56% Meghan Markle, humiliates an incompetent goy emperor, and, ultimately, forcibly defiles the goy emperor's beautiful shiksa daughter.
He looks forward to genociding billions, fueled entirely by racial resentment and racial vengeance. He will not forgive, he will not forget.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:10 AM Author: disturbing wonderful weed whacker crackhouse
It was good but kind of dragged in the middle.
Also I find the heavily drawn out backstory of Dune to be kind of tedious. I miss the days of movies that don’t spend half their runtime universe building.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:25 AM Author: Concupiscible useless school cafeteria
I'm with lex, So we looked at the data, and Live Free or Die. - these movies are great.
It's unreasonable to expect that movies can include every single detail from a book. Instead, what DV excels at is creating models/miniatures/vibe that give you faithful small tastes that are representative of the larger whole. Masterful use of the medium and I'll watch anything he makes. I'm not really a fan of androgynous Timothee but I honestly do think he is well cast as Paul, you need someone who's a little weird.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: Frozen ratface
People trying to shoehorn 2020s politics into a movie set after the Butlierian Jihad is ridiculous.
Go read the books. Paul is not the figure either side thinks he is.
The Great Scattering and the Golden Path are so much more important than any of this minor squabbling.
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