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Hegemon, let me say, you could never do what I do. You don’t have the ability.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:07 PM Author: Sickened school Part of what a true advocate does is take on cases and fights he knows he can’t win. But it’s the fight that’s important — the plaintiffs day in court. If he has that, at least he has been heard. You take the beating so to speak, but you’ve given the plaintiff what he wants.
Also, even cases that should be slam dunks sometimes aren’t, and you take those hits too. You don’t like it obviously, and it hurts, but you get up for another day. If you wanted something guaranteed, you would be billing your time on the other side, or in another industry altogether.
Neither of these situations would be something you could manage. You just wouldnt be able to take the required losses. You’d be out of the field before your loans were paid. It’s a matter of manhood — some of us have it more than others. Being a good father probably helps — there’s a sacrifice there that also applies to professional advocacy for victims of others carelessness. LESS CARE. many attys are “more care” — that’s what you need for a lifetime of good work.
It’s not your bag. Stick to short term or the guaranteed. Go places where you can hide your psychopathy. In the work I do, in matters of the heart, people like you can’t hide. Hth xoxo
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:08 PM Author: Big doctorate hairy legs Date: March 11th, 2024 9:07 PM Author: AIDS and assault convictions, your Honor
Part of what a true advocate does is take on cases and fights he knows he can’t win. But it’s the fight that’s important — the plaintiffs day in court. If he has that, at least he has been heard. You take the beating so to speak, but you’ve given the plaintiff what he wants. Also, even cases that should be slam dunks sometimes aren’t, and you take those hits too. If you wanted something guaranteed, you would be billing your time, or in another industry altogether.
Neither of these situations would be something you could manage. You just wound the able to take the required losses. You’d be out of the field before your loans were paid. It’s a matter of manhood — some of us have it more than others. Being a good father probably helps — there’s a sacrifice there that also applies to professional advocacy for victims of others carelessness. LESS CARE.
many attys are “more care” — that’s what you need for a lifetime of good work.
It’s not your bag. Stick to short term or the guaranteed. Go places where you can hide your psychopathy for the long term. In the work I do, in matters of the heart, people like you can’t hide.
Hth xoxo |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:22 PM Author: Sickened school How could a criminal defense attorney one of the best at the bar not agree with this sentiment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484969) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:11 PM Author: irate aromatic senate https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5hfYJsQAhl0/maxresdefault.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484925) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:15 PM Author: sable spot genital piercing Stop filing frivolous and sanctionable lawsuits, spaceporn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484936) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:23 PM Author: Sickened school Reading is not your forte right now I guess? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484972) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:15 PM Author: brass headpube chad Funny thing is, Hegemon does stick to what he’s good at and performs well at it. Meanwhile you are terrible at the career you’ve dedicate your professional life towards.
And what’s even funnier is that just based off of knowing him, he would be a far better lawyer than you on day one of passing the bar.
Wonder how you’d perform as a soldier lmao |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:16 PM Author: Big doctorate hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484944) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:23 PM Author: Sickened school lol tell me when he re ups (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484973) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:37 PM Author: submissive racy station hominid I tried to re up but they wouldn't let me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485269) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:51 AM Author: hideous clown house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485598) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:20 PM Author: frum stimulating macaca feces what david kelley show is this from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484958) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: Sickened school I don’t know who or what that is. But I do know that if you think I’m joking you shouldn’t go to law school. Stick with theology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484985) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:33 PM Author: frum stimulating macaca feces think you're joking about what? being a PI attorney who *cares*? i'm no fancy lawyer like you, but guessing not many would choose your career over CSLG's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485026) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:35 PM Author: Sickened school I’d choose mine over yours though little fella (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485033) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:38 PM Author: frum stimulating macaca feces if you just want to toss ad homs back and forth, at least i never had to pay for a shitty master's degree to get something published, bud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485043) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:39 PM Author: Sickened school I didn’t pay for it. The school paid me. Partly because I already had publications before I applied to grad school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485049) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:21 PM Author: Sickened school I should probably add in case I forgot I think that fatherhood has something to do with it. You become a better person as a father; less selfish, and this is similar to how you have to be as a true advocate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484962) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:22 PM Author: Glittery sandwich So you take on cases you know you can’t win, then lose those. But also you lose the slam dunks as well. So do you ever win? Or is part of manhood the constant required losing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484968) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:24 PM Author: Sickened school lol the winners mostly settle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484978) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:38 PM Author: Glittery sandwich Yea but I was asking about you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485044) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:38 PM Author: Sickened school Sure I win. Often. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485045) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin Solid content (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484983) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:26 PM Author: Sickened school You can switch over whenever you have the impulse. They’ll pay well enough anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47484995) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:35 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin I’m likely losing my license (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485031) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:36 PM Author: Sickened school What why ? You aren’t Zurich are you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485036) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:31 PM Author: charismatic henna church Is Hegemon a Zappin alt too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485017) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: Sickened school No just some local idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485054) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:18 PM Author: Sickened school So here’s how it would go with hegemon if he were in my position. Assuming he met all the qualifying conditions.
He’d get a dog of a case. He’d bring his A game to try to win but it would really be a C game because he doesn’t know any better. He loses. It really hurts him a lot. He’s furious with the judge and it takes a week or two to get over it.
He gets another dog of a case. Because he’s just infantry and no one cares about his delicate sensibility. “I’ll knock em dead with this one “he says. He brings a C+ game that he again thinks is an A. He loses. This loss is devastating to his ego. He’s humiliated publicly (although no one cares) and the pain is almost unbearable to him. As a psychopathic narcissist he can’t stand the public nature of the loss.
He gets a third dog. He says fuck this and quits. He takes another job. One that’s legal but not courtroom work. Or not law work at all, something a friend offers in another field. And there it is — his lawyer days are over.
That’s how it would play for someone like hegemon, assuming he could hack all the preliminaries. |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
COUNTERPOINT: But he wouldn't fuck little kids, though. |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:25 PM Author: Sickened school You probably had the same problem Zappin. It’s psychopathy and immaturity at work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485235) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:26 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
Yes, yes, sure -- but again, allow me to stress that I don't roughly anally rape innocent little boys in the asshold. I never have, in fact. Not even once.
So, there's that. |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:27 PM Author: Sickened school I would play around w you if you weren’t t such a defamatory piece of shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485241) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:29 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
Wow, save that kind of dirty talk for your adopted son, Chris. |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:30 PM Author: Sickened school That’s just horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485249) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
Sorry, I refuse to discuss matters of child abuse and domestic strife with literal child-raping pedophiles. Just a weird "thing" I have. |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: Sickened school Why do you want to rape childrens “shitpipes” — don’t lie about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485261) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:40 PM Author: Fragrant step-uncle's house Jfc just stop, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485274) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:09 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485626) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:23 AM Author: brass headpube chad LOL you got Andrew good this time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485637) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:49 PM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsYWxIRv34&t=2h21m35s
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:58 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall Lol I almost just posted the link but I didn't have the patience to find the timestamp again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485337) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:50 AM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface That particular timestamp is where you can hear the contempt just DRIPPING off the judge as he bumbles around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485597) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 6:45 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485806) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:06 PM Author: Big doctorate hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485356) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:08 PM Author: brass headpube chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485360) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:07 AM Author: Claret candlestick maker damn, that stings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485625) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:33 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe you're a low iq faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485258) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: Sickened school We are all low iq faggots here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485263) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:39 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall No, actually, just you! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485271) |
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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:39 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall I think this thread is one of the best examples of your raging incoherence, which also tangentially makes it one of the best examples of why you are a dogshit attorney -- you're pretty fucking stupid
None of this was clever enough to merit a line by line, which is really something because I've indulged a lot of your retardation
I want you to know that even without a law degree, I am a better lawyer than you.
Seethe about that some more, I'll check the thread in a few hours and I expect to see some more unhinged ranting and raving |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:03 PM Author: Sickened school Sounds like you’re a better doctor than doctors, a better lawyer than lawyers, a better military strategist than generals … is there anything you can’t do? lol I love how dumb you are. You are a board treasure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47486725) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:48 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin Great thread. The whole oral argument thing is just fantastic content. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485593) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:51 AM Author: hideous clown house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485599) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:52 AM Author: Azure gaped nursing home Winning is all that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485607) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:30 AM Author: cocky office "You take the beating so to speak, but you took the plaintiff's money." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485644) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 12:59 PM Author: Sickened school I’m not sure you know how plaintiff PI cases work. We only get paid on the case if we prevail. There’s no hourly rate business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47486712) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:34 AM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface I know how we can settle this. Let's give Hegemon the briefs for SP's appeal and do a tinychat moot court with xoxoers as judges. I am highly confident, having no idea who hegemon is, having never heard him speak, and with the understanding that he may not have legal training of any type, that he can argue more confidently and coherently than SP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485651) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 6:46 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall I'm down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47485807) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: brass headpube chad !!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47486122) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 11:28 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47486299) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:06 PM Author: Glittery sandwich 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487307) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 1:28 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47486806) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 3:15 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe great idea. sp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487121) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 3:46 PM Author: Sickened school lol that’s just complete nonsense trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487258) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:02 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall He's scared! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487295) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:05 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe u sound scared (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487306) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:06 PM Author: brass headpube chad I commit to assist with setting this up if both parties are interested. We would just need a judge or two to throw questions. SP wouldn't even need to participate at all, Hegemon would just need to make your petitioner argument. Are there any judges that would like to preside? EPAH? TBF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487308) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:06 PM Author: Azure gaped nursing home The confidence in your OP has vanished. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487310) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:07 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487314) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:07 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487316) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:11 PM Author: Sickened school , he proposed without evidence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487323) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:12 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe if u had balls, they'd be shrinking rn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487328) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:16 PM Author: Sickened school See my response below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487350) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:13 PM Author: charismatic henna church well, if anyone knows all about making claims without evidence, I guess it's you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487331) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 6:30 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500677) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:10 PM Author: Sickened school The fact of the matter is that even trollishly doing this with the plan to harass me more is in no way comparable to pressing a novel argument before the fourth circuit. Anyone here who thinks otherwise simply has no idea what an atty does. It’s just silly and dumb and you show your dunning krueger even by suggesting it. Hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487321) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:12 PM Author: Hairraiser Brilliant Dilemma Giraffe u can't write coherent english sentences (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487330) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:18 PM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface In what way is it not comparable? We're going to have skilled lawyers act as mock judges and Hegemon will present the same argument you did and we will ask him some TOUGH QUESTIONS about it to see if he is able to respond with more poise and confidence than you did, and whether his argument is more coherent than yours was. For some reason you seem extremely threatened by this, as if you know that a layman non-lawyer can probably do better than your "fine" performance.
Since you seem to believe that your sputtering and verbal tics were caused by having to "press a novel argument," you're welcome to show up and argue the Government's side. I suspect that even with the "stronger" argument, you will be reduced to a stuttering mess when you try to present it. I think Hegemon will argue more convincingly on the novel argument than you do on the winning one. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:19 PM Author: Sickened school lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488411) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:54 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall Provide the case materials, you bozo the clown looking retard
I need all briefs and the joint appendix.
Failure to provide them is a tacit admission that you know I'm better than you, even with no law degree. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:58 PM Author: Sickened school You can’t even get the relevant materials? What kind of bitch are you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488502) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:12 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall I am definitively better at this than you and you're terrified that you're going to be exposed even further for the sham retard you are.
Upload the full case file to some file sharing site, since I don't have a PACER account, or send it to my email: myveryownzozothrowaway@gmail.com
I am better than you, pussy |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:24 PM Author: brass headpube chad I’m sure we can find someone with a PACER account. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488605) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:15 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
"I am blessed with a sharper analytical legal mind than you because I have a PACER account and you don't! Retard!"
Lol another devastating argument from Christopher L. Spinelli, Esq. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:33 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall This is a 180 content generation idea btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488634) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: brass headpube chad I've conferred with Hegemon and he has reaffirmed his desire to recreate SP's oral argument dependent on a capable judge agreeing to field the questions. Any takers? Preferably one of our big law posters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487345) |
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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47489886) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:24 PM Author: sable spot genital piercing Hegemon could not do what spaceporn does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487382) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
CR, there's no way Hegemon could maintain an erection around a screaming terrified little boy. It would be physically impossible for him to do what Spaceporn does. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 6:27 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall Yeah I think it would be physically impossible for me to suck that fucking badly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487773) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 6:34 PM Author: brass headpube chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47487804) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:49 PM Author: Sickened school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488469) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:53 PM Author: charismatic henna church You don’t tire of getting blown out, do you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488480) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 9:54 PM Author: Sickened school I legitimately wouldn’t know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488485) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:10 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
They say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, but I guess this is one way in which you and your adopted son are worlds apart. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:12 PM Author: Sickened school Speaking of father and son being worlds apart … (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488563) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:14 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
I agree, you should be forcibly and permanently removed from your son's presence IMMEDIATELY for the crimes you have committed. |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: Sickened school Projection is what psychopaths do hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488628) |
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Date: March 13th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: garnet mad cow disease indian lodge To be fair,
(Pedophile who regularly calls everyone else a "pedophile") |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:21 PM Author: drab filthy dragon a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate a true advocate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488597) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:31 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall Don't forget the "matters of the heart" phrase he also uttered above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488627) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 10:33 PM Author: Sickened school Probably more true than you, ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488632) |
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Date: March 12th, 2024 11:13 PM Author: Sickened school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47488796) |
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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:35 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall OP has the chance to prove this! poast the full brief (including joint appandix) and I will deliver an oral argument to an XO panel that will obliterate his utterly HUMILIATING showing in FEDERAL COURT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47489791) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 8:57 AM Author: marvelous purple sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500783) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 3:08 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall spaceporn, vaunted garbage shitlaw attorney, is afraid to poast the briefs
someone else with a PACER account should |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 7:27 PM Author: marvelous purple sanctuary JURISDICTIONAL STATEMENT This is an appeal of the District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia at Richmond’s order dismissing claims under the Federal Tort Claims Act (“FTCA” or “the Act”) for direct liability with prejudice by agreement and for vicarious liability without prejudice on subject matter jurisdictional grounds. More specifically, the District Court ruled that the plaintiff’s claims “arise out of assault or battery, even if such claims would fail,” and thus fall within the Act’s jurisdictional bar. 28 U.S.C § 2680(h); Billups v. United States, Civil No. 3:19cv646, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 6514, *14 (E.D.Va. Jan. 14, 2020). In other words, the District Court ruled that the federal government had not waived sovereign immunity for plaintiff’s claims and therefore it lacked subject matter jurisdiction. This Court has jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1346 and 28 U.S.C § 1291 because the District Court’s order dismissing the case against the United States was a final order that ruled on the issue of subject matter jurisdiction, and therefore the District Court was “finished with the case.” GO Comput., Inc. v. Microsoft Corp., 508 F.3d 170, 176 (4th Cir. 2007). The District Court entered its order on January 14, 2020. Dr. Billups filed a notice of appeal on January 31, 2020, which falls within the statutory 30-day window to file. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 7 of 23 Total Pages:(8 of 59) 2 This appeal is from a final order that disposes of all parties’ claims because the dismissal was on jurisdictional grounds. Id. STATEMENT OF THE ISSUES The issue presented for review is whether Dr. Billups’s claims “arise from an assault or battery” within the meaning of the Federal Tort Claims Act when the allegedly negligent conduct of the tortfeasor constitutes neither assault nor battery under Virginia law. STATEMENT OF THE CASE Statement of the Case Dr. Billups filed suit against the United States alleging that an employee of the Postal Service negligently caused him to suffer permanent hearing loss and tinnitus. JA 4-9. Dr. Billups asserted claims of vicarious liability for the negligence of the Postal Service employee, Ronald Cain, as well as direct liability claims for negligent retention, negligent training, and negligent failure to supervise. Id. The United States moved to dismiss, arguing, inter alia, that appellant’s claims “arose from an assault or battery” and therefore the District Court lacked subject matter jurisdiction. JA 18-20. The government also contended that appellant was contributorily negligent. JA 26-27. Dr. Billups abandoned direct liability claims following a decision from the Supreme Court of USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 8 of 23 Total Pages:(9 of 59) 3 Virginia issued in November of 2019. JA 33; see A.H. by Next Friend C.H. v. Church of God in Christ, Inc., 831 S.E.2d 460 (Va. 2019). Dr. Billups opposed the government’s motion to dismiss, arguing that because Mr. Cain’s tortious conduct did not constitute either a battery or an assault under Virginia law, his conduct – and therefore appellant’s claims – sounded in negligence for which the government had waived sovereign immunity. The government replied that appellant “in reality” pleads battery or assault, the Act’s intentional tort exception, 28 U.S.C. 2680(h), barred his claim. JA 42- 44. The District Court agreed and granted the government’s motion by memorandum opinion, concluding that Dr. Billups’s claims arose from an assault and battery and that the Postal Service employee acted intentionally. JA 54-58. Dr. Billups noted a timely appeal. JA 61. No discovery has been taken. The District Court ruled on the pleadings alone. Statement of Facts On or about September 13, 2017, Andrew J. Billups, III, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist, visited the United States Postal Service in Kilmarnock, Virginia (“Post Office”). JA 4. He parked his vehicle in the rear of the parking lot near a Ford F250 pickup truck (“Truck”). JA 5. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 9 of 23 Total Pages:(10 of 59) 4 The Truck was owned and controlled by Ronald Cain, a Postal Service employee. Id. Mr. Cain worked as a custodian at the Post Office. Id. Mr. Cain was on duty and present at the Post Office at the time Dr. Billups parked his vehicle in the rear of the parking lot. Id. The Truck was backed into a parking space so that its grill faced the parking lot. Id. The Truck’s horn and/or alarm was modified to create an unusually loud noise. Id. Dr. Billups exited his vehicle and noticed a loud horn blast emanate from the Truck from a distance of approximately 10 feet. Id. As Dr. Billups approached the vehicle and bent to examine the grill of the Truck to determine the cause of the noise, Ronald Cain caused a loud alarm or horn to sound a second time. Id. Dr. Billups was approximately 5-6 feet away from the grill of the Truck when the horn blast was activated. Id. Dr. Billups immediately experienced significant ringing in both ears as well as moderate deafness. Id. Dr. Billups and Mr. Cain were familiar with one another from Dr. Billups’ regular visits to the Post Office. Id. Dr. Billups attempted to speak to Mr. Cain inside the Post Office, but was not able to locate him. JA 6. Several days later, Dr. Billups again visited his local Post Office noticed the Truck horn activate when he parked his car nearby. Id. Dr. Billups, who continued to suffer from deafness and bilateral ringing of the ears, went to the Post Office to investigate the Truck and find out what happened. Id. Dr. Billups spoke to “Linda” who indicated that the USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 10 of 23 Total Pages:(11 of 59) 5 postmistress, “Millie” would be at work on Monday, October 2, 2017, to discuss Dr. Billups’ concerns in her office. Id. On October 2, 2017, Dr. Billups returned to the Post Office. Id. As Dr. Billups recorded the license number of the Truck, Mr. Cain approached him playfully, laughing and smiling. Id. Mr. Cain admitted to causing the horn activation using the “Alarm” feature on his key remote control. Id. Mr. Cain pointed toward the southeast corner of the Post Office and explained that at least two of his coworkers watched Dr. Billups react to the horn blast through a hole cut in the venetian blinds inside the Post Office. Id. The hole in the blinds was subsequently been repaired or the blinds replaced. Id. Mr. Cain intended to play a practical joke on Dr. Billups when he activated his Truck horn or alarm. Id. On October 2, 2017, Dr. Billups spoke with postmistress, Mildred San Juan (previously referred to as “Millie”). JA 7. Postmistress San Juan apologized for Mr. Cain and said she would meet with Mr. Cain and other members of the staff to review and update their customer relations training. Id. Mr. Cain was in a habit of activating his horn when customers parked close to the Truck or were otherwise in the Post Office parking lot. Id. The hole in the blinds was cut to observe Postal Service patrons in the parking lot from within the Post Office. Id. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 11 of 23 Total Pages:(12 of 59) 6 Mr. Cain’s supervisor and coworkers were aware of his habit of activating his horn when Postal Service customers were in proximity to the Truck. Id. Mr. Cain’s supervisor and coworkers were aware that the hole in the blinds had been cut, in part, to facilitate Mr. Cain’s habit. Id. Mr. Cain never touched Dr. Billups or caused anything to touch him. Dr. Billups never feared for his safety. Dr. Billups sustained acoustical trauma to both ears as a direct and proximate cause of the activation of the horn by Mr. Cain. Id. Dr. Billups has been diagnosed with permanent high-frequency hearing loss and tinnitus in both ears as a proximate result of acoustical trauma. Id. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 12 of 23 Total Pages:(13 of 59) 7 SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT A claim cannot arise from an assault or battery if the underlying conduct is neither assault nor battery. Here, Mr. Cain’s conduct does not constitute assault or battery under Virginia law. The intentional nature of Mr. Cain’s conduct does not control the question of whether appellants claim “aris[es] from” assault or battery; the law is replete with intentional acts or decisions that sound in negligence. This Court should reverse and remand because appellant’s claim arises from a negligent act, not from assault, battery, or any other intentional tort. ARGUMENT Standard of Review “When a defendant makes a facial challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, ‘the plaintiff, in effect, is afforded the same procedural protection as he would receive under a Rule 12(b)(6) consideration.’” Kerns v. United States, 585 F.3d 187, 192 (4th Cir. 2009) (quoting Adams v. Bain, 697 F.2d 1213, 1219 (4th Cir. 1982)) “In that situation, the facts alleged in the complaint are taken as true, and the motion must be denied if the complaint alleges sufficient facts to invoke subject matter jurisdiction.” 1 Kerns, 585 F.3d at 192. 1 The District Court’s memorandum opinion is somewhat unclear on what standard of review it applied because it refers to a more searching standard of review but does not appear to rely on that analysis in reaching its ruling. See Billups v. United States, Civil No. 3:19cv646, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 6514, *2, *10-16 (E.D.Va. Jan. 14, 2020); JA 48-49. The government did not advance this more searching USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 13 of 23 Total Pages:(14 of 59) 8 Discussion The District Court’s ruling lacks precedential support and stretches the boundary of the intentional tort bar beyond its limit, leaving Dr. Billups with no remedy under Virginia law because Mr. Cain neither an assaulted nor a battered him, and without a remedy against the government for precisely the opposite reason. This Court should reverse and remand. standard of review and the procedure outlined in Kerns was not followed. See Kerns, 585 F.3d at 192 (internal citations and quotation marks omitted): “In the alternative, the defendant can contend -- as the Government does here – that the jurisdictional allegations of the complaint [are] not true. The plaintiff in this latter situation is afforded less procedural protection: If the defendant challenges the factual predicate of subject matter jurisdiction, [a] trial court may then go beyond the allegations of the complaint and in an evidentiary hearing determine if there are facts to support the jurisdictional allegations, without converting the motion to a summary judgment proceeding. In that situation, the presumption of truthfulness normally accorded a complaint's allegations does not apply, and the district court is entitled to decide disputed issues of fact with respect to subject matter jurisdiction.” Here, the facts are essentially not in dispute; the parties dispute their legal significance. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 14 of 23 Total Pages:(15 of 59) 9 I. THE GOVERNMENT WAIVED IMMUNITY FOR “WRONGFUL ACTS,” EVEN WHEN THEY ARE VOLITIONAL. The government is responsible for damages “caused by the negligent or wrongful act or omission of any employee of the Government while acting within the scope of his office or employment, under circumstances where the United States, if a private person, would be liable to the claimant in accordance with the law of the place where the act or omission occurred.” 28 U.S.C. § 1346(b). The government is not liable for damages caused by assault, battery, “or other specified intentional torts” including, specifically, “false imprisonment, false arrest, malicious prosecution, abuse of process, libel, slander, misrepresentation, deceit, or interference with contract rights.” Sheridan v. United States, 487 U.S. 392, 395, (1988); 28 U.S.C. § 2860(h). The District Court held that Mr. Cain engaged in “volitional conduct of the sort that Congress intended to exclude from the FTCA’s waiver of sovereign immunity” and therefore appellant’s claims against him (and the government) “arise out of assault or battery, even if such claims would fail,” under Virginia law. The District Court did not cite authority for these propositions and counsel for appellant has found none that would support this expansive reading of the intentional tort bar. This proposition conflicts with the plain language of the Act that makes cognizable claims out of “wrongful act[s] or omissions” by federal employees within the scope of employment. Because the District Court’s USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 15 of 23 Total Pages:(16 of 59) 10 application of the bar reaches too far without supporting authority, this Court should reverse. The District Court’s opinion rests on authority that is neither controlling nor persuasive for the proposition that appellant’s claims “arise from” an assault or battery under Virginia law. See United States v. Neustat, 366 U.S. 696, 710 (1961) (no waiver of immunity for misrepresentation of material facts); Popovic v. United States, 175 F.3d 1015 (4th Cir. 1999) (unpublished) (no waiver for defamation); Gaudet v. United States, 517 F.2d 1034, 1035 (5th Cir. 1975) (no waiver for false arrest, assault, and malicious prosecution by law enforcement before statutory change). None of these cases mandate dismissal or support the Court’s rationale that Congress meant to bar claims for “volitional conduct” of federal employees. Rather, the theme that emerges from this trio of federal cases is that claims sounding in one of the intentional torts enumerated in § 2860(h) are barred. Appellant agrees with that proposition. The plain language of § 2860(h) bars these claims. Presumably, the evidence in Neustat, Popovic, and Gaudet would have supported the state law claims for defamation, malicious prosecution, and the like in each case. What these cases do not stand for, however, is that the government is immune from all volitional conduct. If Congress intended to prohibit all claims for volitional activity, it could have made that limitation explicit. Instead, Congress USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 16 of 23 Total Pages:(17 of 59) 11 provided that the government was immune from certain enumerated intentional torts. Even broad construction of the enumerated torts cannot mutate negligent horseplay into a battery within the meaning of Virginia law. But that is what the District Court’s did here. This Court should reverse and remand because the District Court stretched the bar beyond the language of the statute. II. MR. CAIN DID NOT COMMIT AN ASSAULT OR A BATTERY. Congress listed the tortious activities for which the government would not be responsible if its employees committed them. Congress has never listed horseplay or pranks by government employees on government time against private citizens among the actions for which the government will not bear responsibility. Mr. Cain’s conduct amounts to nothing more than that: negligent horseplay that was intended to entertain himself and his coworkers. Dr. Billups’s claims could not and do not sound in assault or battery under Virginia law. It cannot be said that Mr. Cain committed a battery because there was no physical contact, an essential element of battery. “The tort of battery is an unwanted touching which is neither consented to, excused, nor justified.” Koffman v. Garnett, 265 Va. 12, 16, 574 S.E.2d 258, 261 (2003). Without physical contact, an act cannot become a battery in Virginia. Likewise, it cannot be said that Mr. Cain assaulted the appellant. “To prove assault, a plaintiff must show that the defendant performed an act intended to cause USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 17 of 23 Total Pages:(18 of 59) 12 either harmful or offensive contact with another person or apprehension of such contact, and that creates in the other person's mind a reasonable apprehension of an imminent battery.” Bowie v. Murphy, 271 Va. 126, 136, 624 S.E.2d 74, 80 (2006). Because he did nothing intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact that created in appellant’s mind a reasonable apprehension of an imminent battery, there is no assault here. Had Mr. Cain revved the engine of the Truck remotely with appellant standing face-to-face with the Truck’s grill, it would be entirely reasonable to assume that appellant feared he would be run over. However, a horn blast does not put anyone in fear of anything. The horn was a surprise; not an assault. Rather, appellant’s claim sounds in negligence. Mr. Cain undertook an act without using ordinary care under the circumstances. The District Court relies upon upon Mayr v. Osborne, 293 Va. 74 (2017) for the proposition that, even though an essential element of battery was missing from appellant’s claim, Mr. Cain’s conduct still constituted battery because Mr. Cain intentionally interfered with appellant’s “dignitary interest.” JA 57 (“Cain may have not intended to cause physical harm to Plaintiff, but he clearly intended to violate Plaintiffs dignitary interest in being free from offensive contact.”). But Mayr does not support this proposition. In Mayr, the Supreme Court of Virginia determined that a wrong-level spinal fusion surgery did not constitute a USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 18 of 23 Total Pages:(19 of 59) 13 battery but instead sounded in medical negligence. The facts are basic: the patient consented to a surgery at one level of his spine; the surgeon fused a different level. In this medical negligence context, the Supreme Court of Virginia held that the claim of “technical battery” – for which expert standard of care testimony is not required – did not lie where the mistake could be blamed on “heedlessness, inattention, [and] inadvertence” can be sufficient for liability in negligence. Mayr, 293 Va. at 82. A “technical battery” occurs when a surgeon did not obtain informed consent before performing a given surgery. Because Mayr is factually and legally distinguishable, the District Court’s reliance on it was misplaced and undermines the validity of its decision. The District Court erroneously focused on intentionality and equated volition with no waiver of immunity. The mere fact that an action is volitional does not take it outside the realm of negligence and into the narrow confines of an assault or battery. By way of example: • When an intoxicated person inserts the key into the ignition and begins driving a vehicle, he is certainly acting intentionally. But if he injures someone during his intoxicated drive, the arising claim sounds in negligence. USCA4 Appeal: 20-1121 Doc: 12 Filed: 04/06/2020 Pg: 19 of 23 Total Pages:(20 of 59) 14 • When a driver chooses to draft a text message while underway and causes a wreck with injuries, his decision was intentional but claims against him arise in negligence. • When a lawn service forgoes maintenance on its riding mowers and a blade flies off during use, injuring someone, the claim would arise in negligence even though the conduct that caused the injury was a purposeful choice. Appellant’s claim falls into the same category as the foregoing examples: it sounds in negligence. Mr. Cain made a purposeful choice to act. He had absolutely no intention of hurting the appellant and appellant never thought he was in danger. But Mr. Cain’s decision caused serious harm to the appellant. This Court should reverse and remand this case for further proceedings because the District Court has deposited Dr. Billups in a legally unsound purgatory where he is injured by someone acting irresponsibly, but left without a remedy. CONCLUSION WHEREFORE, Appellant, by counsel, respectfully requests that this Court reverse the dismissal of this case and remand it to the District Court for further proceedings. STATEMENT REGARDING ORAL ARGUMENT Appellant requests oral argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47502287) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall 180 ty
can you also access the joint appendix? |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:33 AM Author: marvelous purple sanctuary What's your email (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503097) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:57 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall myveryownzozothrowaway@gmail.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503370) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:05 AM Author: marvelous purple sanctuary Sent or attempted to send (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503387) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 3:51 PM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface "This Court should reverse and remand this case for further proceedings because the District Court has deposited Dr. Billups in a legally unsound purgatory"
Emroch and Killduff isn't sending their best |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 3:54 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin what the fuck does this even mean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504415) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:27 PM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface Most purgatorys are legally sound. This particular purgatory can be distinguished from the norm because it is legally unsound. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504554) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:24 PM Author: marvelous purple sanctuary I'll allow it. It's not correct but I approve the overwrought phrasing in a DOA argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504539) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 6:33 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead the most revealing thing about how shitty spaceporns life is is how fucking proud he is to be a shit tier lawyer. he is *so* proud to be a 50 year old associate at a pi mill. that is a source of pride for him. let that sink in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500680) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 9:07 AM Author: charismatic henna church Very true. And he is convinced that his work is marked by intellectual rigor. He would respond to this poast by asking, in a condescending way of course, "How many $6,500 settlements have you achieved for people with made up injuries after falling in a grocery store?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500789) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 10:35 PM Author: Big doctorate hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47502698) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 3:30 PM Author: frum stimulating macaca feces to think, we could have all learned so much from his experience and expertise. but he was too good for this place and left for good this time, never again to return and demand poasters engage him in REAL legal discussions about CMOPLICATED fact patterns. the clarence darrow of vehicular torts. we're never going to find that kind of top shelf content again, nor do we deserve it for what we did to that poor man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47501684) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 3:38 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead sure bud, sure. stick to theology champ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47501700) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 3:45 PM Author: frum stimulating macaca feces (zappin alt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47501708) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 4:21 PM Author: charismatic henna church In the end, it was we who got Zapped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47501840) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 4:39 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin It’s hilarious. By any objective metric, he has failed at this profession and yet he brags and brags, Ignatius Reilly style.
He’s told me that as a labor lawyer and equity partner at a large firm, I’m not a “real” lawyer and couldn’t do what he does. Anyone with an ounce of humility in his position would be quiet when it comes to career talk. |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 9:42 PM Author: Sickened school If I said you were not a real atty I misspoke and only said that because of your ceaseless and obsessive poasting about me on here, sadistically posting about my private disability even after I asked you to stop. I’m not a failure in my profession and on the contrary have plenty of success. I’m not an associate at a law firm. I don’t come on here bragging about my results; typically all I do is defend myself against insane harassment on here from you and others. If you say I’m a failure etc then of course I’m going to disagree with that, and in your head apparently defending myself is obnoxious bragging. You seem categorically unable to see any faults in your own conduct, even when you keep hurting yourself by it. |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 10:23 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin I contracted hiv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47502659) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 10:30 PM Author: Sickened school So what’s your point? I didn’t give you hiv.
And you were harassing me on here even before you contracted hiv.
And does contracting hiv give you license to be a jerk to me?
It’s really creepy and disturbing to do that to a person for years on end. Do you have any idea how unsettling that sort of thing is?
AND it wouldn’t surprise me if it was you who was having packets of condoms and sex toy catalogues mailed to me at home and work. |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 10:36 PM Author: Big doctorate hairy legs LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47502704) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:51 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead >AND it wouldn’t surprise me if it was you who was having packets of condoms and sex toy catalogues mailed to me at home and work.
can't imagine how a person could have this shit happen to them and then talk about it on the place it came from. do you see how you're just encouraging this?
this isn't victim blaming. i sincerely think it's fucked up people are fucked with your IRL (despite the fact you've done it and attempted to do it to others.) like, i don't walk around high crime areas counting a stack of hundreds. i wouldn't deserve to get robbed, but i try to avoid putting myself in situations where there's a big opportunity to be victimized. why do you keep coming back here when it just encourages people to fuck with your IRL to get a ride out of you? and then you even go ahead and speak on it, giving these people they pay off they're looking for. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:01 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin if someone really mailed sex toys and condoms or whatever to your home and work, you really need to retire from here. nobody should mess with IRL here, but if people are doing that then you should actually retire. i know you won't though.
also, as gunnerattt said why would you come on here and talk about that? whoever did it (almost 100% from here but who knows if you have been outed on other forums) is probably giddy right now. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:08 AM Author: Sickened school Why don’t you respond to the balance of the comments I made, sadist. Why do you think it’s okay nbd to hassle me and harass me and try to hurt me for conditions I can’t help. Poasting my name, my law firm, all sorts of sick stuff about kids. Why do you think that’s okay? The fact that you have hiv isn’t an excuse to grief me at length and daily online. Do you have any idea how upsetting it is to see insane child rape crap on here from you and others daily associated with my family? And don’t tell me just leave. First I do and have and it doesn’t make any difference to you. You still go on endlessly even when I’m not even posting. Even outting. You still do it. Second, that’s literally not how trolling works. The whole game of trolling is to keep the victim in suspense about what crazy harmful crap they are now spewing about me online— how badly am I being defamed publicly today? That’s literally the Machiavellian psychology of this whole activity. (And you are an atty! At a big law firm! Who is so smart! And makes $500k a year! Who should know better!) But please respond to the balance of the comments in my post above. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:26 AM Author: fiercely-loyal bateful legend "And don’t tell me just leave. First I do and have and it doesn’t make any difference to you. You still go on endlessly even when I’m not even posting. Even outting. You still do it. Second, that’s literally not how trolling works. The whole game of trolling is to keep the victim in suspense about what crazy harmful crap they are now spewing about me online."
How would you know any of this if, as you claim, you actually walked away from this bort? Try actually leaving, freak. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead he has previously claimed he continues to get shit even in his dormant phase. but seeing his persecution complex and exaggerations for years now I highly doubt it's as bad as he claims. if only because he's just not that interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503437) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: fiercely-loyal bateful legend Agreed, but he is also admitting that he doesn't leave during a dormant phase. He reads every single poast about him and stews in it until it boils over in his clown brain and he starts mega-poasting again. And the mega-poasting never turns out well for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503491) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead actually he's ruthlessly pwning everyone itt. just ask him and he'll tell you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503518) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin please link to me poasting your name or firm a single time. i can recall once referencing part of your firm's name, but it was in a thread where people were poasting yelp reviews about the firm and i think i copied and pasted one, don't remember.
go ahead. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: Sickened school And the rest? Your response? I made quite a few comments above. You’ve responded to two. And they are both just denials. Let me restate the remaining questions.
1) why won’t you just leave me alone and stop posting nasty stuff about me all the time. 2) why do you keep posting about a very difficult personal disability I have and why do you keep making fun of it, do you have any idea how difficult that made my life and how hard I worked to overcome it? Why would anyone daily make fun of another professional online for that month after month? It’s sadistic and insane. 3) you of all people should know I’m not doing terrible things you describe. Why do you keep saying that sick stuff about me? It’s not funny instead it’s just horrible and callous and just shows a head full of sickness. Why don’t you just leave me out of that. Please respond. I asked these questions above but you haven’t answered them. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:35 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin still waiting for that link, tits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503438) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: Sickened school I sent you an example way back when I first emailed you asking you to stop poasting about me. Pull that up if you like. It was actually what prompted me to email you in the first place. But answer my questions. I’ll ignore the tits bit for right now as everyone accuses everyone of having tits here. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:45 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i don't think that's correct, but i will answer your questions in great detail, IF you provide examples of me outing you from 2021 - present, including all these times that i've outed you during your dormant phases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503462) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: Sickened school This is trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503468) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall 1. Because you are an insufferable retard who may actually be raping a child.
2. Lol Kallman's micropenis
3. People literally see you in public and accuse you of child trafficking. If all of these are in fact false allegations, you should seriously reflect on why people draw this conclusion after seeing and interacting with you. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead small nit: trafficking refers to trading and dealing. spaceporn has always insisted that spjr's squnachhole is his and his alone. please revise. these details are important and our client would not be happy with these sloppy errors. you've got to work on this if you ever want to get to spaceporn tier advocate.
thank, |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:03 PM Author: Pink nudist church building Finally Hegemon gets blown out on XO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503792) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:27 PM Author: Sickened school See the OP fella (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503874) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead achshually you're using trolling incorrectly anyway! what's the difference? people are fucking with you and you're giving them what they want by talking about it. you could have just thrown it away and denied you ever got it or that you throw it out and the person would have felt like they wasted effort. instead you're giving them what they want.
also, you outed zurich repeatedly and was the first one to out him, so i don't know how you can play the victim here. again, not making excuses for all the harassment and outing you get, but there is a huge difference between someone first getting outed and someone repeating a known poasters name. if you want to squabble over definitions, i'd say a person can really only be "outted" once. while people repeating your, rsf, benzo, tsinah, etc. are not being very nice, there is a huge difference between that and doxxing someone. which is what you did to zurich, right? |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i'd like to also point out that i never outed him in retaliation. he's just a mean-spirited pathetic little bitch who takes this place too seriously.
this forum is for fucking off and being stupud. imagine peterman getting legit angry and ranting on here about being "defamed" because people suggest he blows truckers, or doobs complaining about... i don't even know what, all the weird sex shit people accuse him of.
but here is sp going on and on about how hurtful and crazy it is that people accuse him of pedophilia. but the accusations are a joke...right? |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead can't count how many baseless accusations people have tried to troll me with. why would i care? they don't know anything about me and i know it's not true.
it's been repeated to sp for at least half a decade now so at this point there's no chance he'll ever get it, but the entire reason people say this shit is because of his reaction. if i kept calling you a pedophile to get a rise out of you and you just rolled with id get bored. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:42 AM Author: Sickened school Are you going to answer my questions or not. Or are you just going to engage with the flies buzzing around the shit you’ve made. If it’s just a forum to fuck around in then you can answer what I asked. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin you know what, fuck it. i will answer your other questions.
here you go, guy:
1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. maybe
you happy? |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: Sickened school This is trolling and you aren’t answering anything or at least make the answers line up with the questions so I know what you are talking about.
But if you know how disturbing it is to me, why do you keep doing it? You are a grown ass man, a big lawyer, $500k a year. Why are you bullying and harassing someone constantly over a brutal confidence undermining disability he can’t actually help? And what’s with the child porn crap. If you have some compulsion, for god sake keep it to yourself. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:37 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead if there wasn't overwhelming evidence spaceporn is who he is i wouldn't believe it. you're literally crying about people "bullying" you for having a micropenis. if i had kallman and this place found out i'd scramble my password immediately. i cannot understand the mindset of someone like you. it's been years of this -- there is NOTHING you can do to stop people from making fun of you aside from just walking away. this place is FOR people shoot the shit and make fun of each other sometimes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503901) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead he's obviously just going to keep buzzing. like, you've been at this with him for quite a while. when will you accept that you can't get anybody to engage with you in the way you like by autistically flapping and whining about it? zurich just said that people come here to fuck around. not everything said here is genuine. plus since zurich literally 100% irl no-joke for real for real no cap has contracted hiv i think he's entitled to some levity, wouldn't you agree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503467) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i have it under control with meds now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503486) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Sickened school But you don’t!!! You’ve been saying that for years now. And who gets the penalty? Me! You don’t have anything under control. Harassing me for a disability is fucking loathsome. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:57 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead pedophilic urges are not a recognized disability under the ada (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503503) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i meant my HIV is under control with meds. my mental illness is totally untreated and going rawdog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503511) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Sickened school Why do you think your mental illness affords you the right to really really bother the fuck out of me. I have trials and court hearings and here you are talking about my private disability. I’ve got you posting horrible child porn scenes effectively assaulting my family. I’ve got you and your troll team telling me I might have snipers in my back yard.
It’s serious shit. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:07 AM Author: Sickened school Go ahead and answer. A biglaw kid like you should be able to ignore the trolls swarming around this shitpile long enough to answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503545) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin discuss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503852) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead "i demand you take this seriously!"
imagine being opposite of spaceporn in a deposition and his squeaky kallman's voice is like "instruct your client to answer the question!" while you try to choke back tears. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 3:58 PM Author: talented ivory police squad ratface OBJECTION, AH, UMMM, AAAHHH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504434) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:16 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead the ultimate pay off to your story arc here is someone finally breaking your brain enough that you sue somebody. i'd love to see you irl explain to a judge how a licensed attorney could not resist returning to a place where he is constantly fucked with. like, what are you going to do when the judge asks: "mr. porn, if you felt legitimately physically threatened by these people, why did you continue to return and why did you never contact law enforcement?"
one of the craziest things about this is that despite all your histrionic yapping about being the victim of harassment you've taken NO STEPS to mitigate it for YEARS! even if you may have had a case when this shit first happened, no one is going to buy that you were being "harassed" or that you felt that these threats were legitimate when you've continued to spend time here for so long.
i imagine under that clownhair there is midwit brain that has periods of lucidity, which is why you've never done anything. you know you would absolutely embarrass yourself by admitted to your own behavior here. i would skip town before i admitted publicly to being a decade-long lolcow on a web1.0 chatblog. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:47 PM Author: charismatic henna church You have to think his bosses have had this conversation with him. Are they actually running a business where an employee is allowed to behave like Spinelli? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503912) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 3:53 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead these dysgenic hideous midwits are the norm, not the exception. i bet his bosses are chad and just have him doing bitchwork (e.g. getting publicly embarrassed by arguing in from of a federal circuit court honking and negligent horseplay appeals.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504413) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 3:55 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i wonder if they're aware of all the nonsense from here, given that lunatics apparently have sent emails to the firm. wtf do you think he's said to them about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504420) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead i assume so.
i mean, anyone that isn't autistic would know what to do in this situation. say you've got some cyberstalker or something and apologize that he's sending stuff to other people.
of course, knowing spaceporn's behavior here, i'm sure he autistically tried to explain all this shit. can you imagine? telling your boomer boss about xo? i'm sure it was another one of many instances where spaceporn left the room and the partners turned to each other and said "jesus christ, what a weird little fucker that guy is..." |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:25 PM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin he would, 100%, explain himself to his bosses rather than lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504548) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:30 PM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead it's not even really a lie! that's what's so great. you can plausibly be like "oh i got targeted for harassment online a long time ago." that's actually true from his POV. this happens with women all the time, crazy exes sending people shit for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47504560) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: fiercely-loyal bateful legend This is, of course, the credited response. Spaceporn is an autist and cannot brush off anything. He undoubtedly goes around IRL accusing random passers-by of defamation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503508) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead to be fair, i might be a little on edge if i couldn't have a simple plate of dive bar spaghetti without being accused of being a pedophile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503525) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:54 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503663) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:10 AM Author: Claret candlestick maker what about the NAMBLA gift baskets? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503399) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:11 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin i think that was MASE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503402) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 9:52 AM Author: high-end internal respiration native Trial of the century Clarence Bare-hole vs William Jennings Boy-man |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:01 AM Author: soggy drunken private investor business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500975) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:14 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead complete nonsense trolling tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47500985) |
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Date: March 17th, 2024 7:42 PM Author: 180 stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47502351) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: razzle whorehouse circlehead spaceporn is this monday morning spergout during working hours part of the "lifetime of good work" you're referring to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503514) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:17 AM Author: Exhilarant Magenta Hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503579) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: charismatic henna church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503608) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 11:32 AM Author: Dead sick institution cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502904&forum_id=2#47503639) |