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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:08 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship obviously i shopped around, but paying 11.5k for a roof on a small 1500 sf house. the job takes a way. is the cost materials or labor or what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492745) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:09 AM Author: Hairraiser theater boiling water Why don't you do it yourself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492748) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:09 AM Author: Garnet cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492750) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:12 AM Author: Floppy Cruel-hearted Messiness This does seem like the kind of project a man could reasonably do himself. Mr Fix-its please correct me if I’m wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492755) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:15 AM Author: concupiscible shimmering station bbw It's physically demanding, but the job is not something difficult to figure out.
I would much rather pay a professional to do it right and be done with it. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:16 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship also, no buyer on a house with a new roof is gonna pay for some house where the owner DIY'd and there's no transferrable warranty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492764) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:14 PM Author: Bateful olive sandwich hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493308) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:17 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration it's possible but the juice ain't worth the squeeze and i'm a super prole goy mr. fixit. it's roundly considered the worst contracting job and why roofers are dominated by teams of spics. the cost is all labor, illegal labor, and the prices are still that high for a reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492770) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: concupiscible shimmering station bbw This.
Ever wonder where people with face and neck tattoos work (outside of tattoo parlors)? They're roofers and scaffold builders, if they even work. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:19 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship what's the heirarchy on home laborers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492780) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:24 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop first of all inside >>>>>>> outside
plumbers deal with shit so they are bottom of the insiders
electricians risk death and arent smart enough to get cushier corporate jobs
floor guys are okay but it's all prefab shit so not every prestigious
cabinet/kitchen guys are craftsman and some can be chads with hot wives |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:26 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship you seem to be conflating biz owners vs the workers. no way a kitchen/cabinet guy who does demo and install shit is higher prestige than a licensed electrician... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492817) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop i didnt mean installing ikea kitchens, i mean custom made stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492822) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:32 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration right. any sort of highly skilled interior labor is more like artisan tier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492856) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492861) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration cr.
also roofers are the lowest outside tier because it's unskilled and you're in uncovered heat doing a physically demanding task all fucking day.
be a bro and buy the spics a case of tecate |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship i havent talked to them. i'm afraid of a nail landing in me eye, so i'm staying inside. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492839) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:01 PM Author: histrionic parlor tattoo lolol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493254) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:31 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop weird that both Bill Burr and Adam Carrola were both roofers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492848) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Bateful olive sandwich hunting ground Landscapers are lower than roofers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493310) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration no way. digging in the garden is fun. roofing is NOT FUN. there is a reason most people do their own landscaping but no one does their own roof. most landscapers i know are goy quasi-solos that just like being outside. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493325) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: Bateful olive sandwich hunting ground I'm not talking about gardening, I'm talking about landscaping. Moving earth, building rock walls, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493331) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:26 PM Author: histrionic parlor tattoo agree with you. landscaping is truly backbreaking, low skill labor with a large degree of latitude. roofs need to be done more or less the right way or it will leak. takes more skill, is more dangerous, and that's why those guys get paid more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493348) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration i'd say they are about the same tier as roofing. lower skill but better working conditions. roofing on a clear day in the summer is fucking brutal, and even pushing wheelbarrows of earth is better. every former roofer i know that has done all sorts of labor has said it's the worst fucking job of them all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493392) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 1:06 PM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop but there's still an art to landscaping. kid i grew up with has his own company and does cool shit
as said elsewhere itt roofers are the necktat superprole types |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:24 PM Author: Cobalt giraffe yeah that claim was typical tsinah bullshit. landscaping requires some finesse and accuracy. it's nothing like slamming nails onto something no one will ever be able to see. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:32 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration if tsinah was referring to ultra unskilled landscapers like pushing wheelbarrows of rock, i see what he means. but yeah, lots of landscapers are basically artisan tier. it takes a lot of skill to design something that looks nice and maintain it. choosing plants, knowing their growing conditions, what it'll look like when they mature, etc.
just like any artisan they'll have some bitch boi spics to do the mindless grunt work. but that's like saying a custom cabinet maker's spic slave is in the same tier because he hauls all the wood and does other bitchwork. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:35 PM Author: Cobalt giraffe i think its safe to assume we are talking about the grunts. but the grunts still need to do some things like accuracy and precision, like trimming and edging, and even brick laying. a roofer just has a staple gun and tries not to fall off drunk |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:37 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration right. that's why "landscaper" doesn't make much sense to me since there is a wide spectrum whereas there's really on one tier of roofer. it's like "cabinet installer" could be a retard from lowes installing prefab shit or a guy building hardwood cabinets from scratch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494157) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: Electric shivering police squad correct. roofing is dangerous and there are lots of injuries. many roofers i've met have had drinking problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493466) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:25 AM Author: Beta Onyx Really Tough Guy Nursing Home its doable. I roofed a couple of houses in high school. It takes some practice and I'm sure I did a shit job, but its not a big deal--for shingles.
metal roofs are a different story. they typically have interlocking surfaces and are more complex |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: concupiscible shimmering station bbw Metal roofs are easier, depending on the angles and roof design. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493015) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:18 PM Author: Beta Onyx Really Tough Guy Nursing Home R panel, sure. I've done shed/leanto R-panel roofs.
but stuff like standing seam seems much more challenging, never done that though. |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: jet-lagged appetizing meetinghouse water buffalo Roofers probably have more fatalities than cops / ice crab fishers / etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496517) |
Date: March 14th, 2024 10:09 AM Author: exciting useless brakes that seems cheap/reasonable to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492749) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:11 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship compared to the cost of other home projects, especially those that take much longer than a day, it's quite high. what other job would cost 12k for a day's work?
not saying i'm getting ripped off. i shopped around. prices were 11.5-13.5k. got like 10 estimates and none were lowballs or totally outrageous either. that's obviously the going rate. just wondering where the money is going. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop contractor takes 30-40% and the rest for mexicans and materials (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492776) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship surprised profit margin is that high given how close all the quotes are. you'd think there's have been a greater range of my quotes since ones desperate for work would have tried being more competitive.
i've got quotes on projects where the prices were all over the map and ranged by like 50% from top to bottom. there, it's clear that some are gouging and hoping to land a big fish, and others are desperate for work and will take low margins in order to get jobs |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop lol nobody who works with their hands is desperate for work
more often than not they double and triple book and then just show up to one |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship the owners of these companies doing the quotes arent doing the work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492867) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop doesnt matter. they have the leverage, not you Lt Weinberg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492885) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:42 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship there are tons of roofing companies and many seemed quite aggressive. either they're price fixing, or their margins arent the 30-40% you're suggesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492897) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop materials - well understood and same across the board
labor - well understood and same across the board
margins - no need to go lower than industry standard cuz everyone is fully booked all the time anyways |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship these companies all could get me in in a week or two or less. not convinced they're all fully booked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492916) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:25 PM Author: supple rough-skinned box office You know nothing of Business. They probably mark up the materials/labor 70% but they still have to pay for $80,000k pickup trucks, trailers, insurance, advertising, tools, and god knows what else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493334) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: self-centered cruise ship it's almost like a biz can estimate its overhead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493391) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:33 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration several people, including one who has direct experience in the industry: "this is what the margins are in the industry."
guy who knows so little about the industry that he's soliciting xoxo for advice on whether a quote is reasonable: "i simply don't believe it." |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: self-centered cruise ship overhead should be included in profit margin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493421) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:34 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration you're responding to cowgod, i think everyone itt is taking overhead into consideration, of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494140) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 8:17 PM Author: supple rough-skinned box office business owners don't net 30% of gross unless it's software or some shit like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494789) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 7:09 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47495886) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration go start a roofing company then, moishe.
wrangling teams of spics to be on time and do quality work, dealing with insane homeowners, marketing yourself, doing quotes, all the general small business tasks, etc. etc.
there is a reason finding a quality contractor is as valuable as gold. same with auto mechanic. if those margins represented big easy money the industry would be gobbled about by PE. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:48 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship that's why i'm not convinced it's 30-40% profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492919) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration it is. you just underestimate how many hours go into generating that 30-40%. if you broke it down into an hourly rate it's usually not very glamorous outside of a select few local contractor kings.
we work in an industry where you get 33% of a large settlement for sending a "send limits" email to an adjuster. do you really think that contractors are working less for their cut than the average attorney? |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:48 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop i can totally see a contractor who double booked and showed up 5 minutes late to a nasally dbg saying "i've been waiting for you all morning" just telling his guys "vamanos" and driving to the other job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492922) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship my parents actually used this same roofer. the owner of the company is a super nice goy who puts up with all my mom's bullshit. he lives in the area and she bugs him all the time for recs on other goy workmen and his recs have always been great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492952) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop and yet you still shopped around? lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492980) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship why wouldnt i make sure his cost is in line? we're moving and just wanted the best price. he turned out to be at the low end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492987) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492990) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration the chosen people truly, truly cannot help themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493007) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493014) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship what's the problem? took an hour total labor to make a list of 10 roofers with good reviews to call and call them and have them come out and get quotes and then record the quotes into my word document. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493023) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop "roofer worked with my mom for 20 years, now ignoring me. antisemitism?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493050) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:07 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493065) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:05 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration i have a network of friends in all industries: contracting, medical, professional, etc. i know they take care of me. i'm going out with my dentist next week after an appointment, who has performed tens of thousands of dollars of free dental work for me. in turn, he has called me for off-the-cuff legal advice, which i have freely given.
this is what a high trust society looks like. the fact you people don't even understand it is always stunning to me. especially when you immediately jump to how much time it took *you* without considering how much of others time you wasted. you have no empathy for the goyim. and also how "your guy" may treat you differently if you're hunting around for quotes. if someone i considered a friend and i was giving a friend rate to for legal services started shopping attorneys, i would begin treating him like an ordinary client. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:07 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493068) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:10 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship how would my mom's roofer even know that i got 10 quotes? i'm sure he'd be fine knowing i got 2-3 other quotes which is perfectly reasonable.
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:14 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration hehe correct moishe so long as the goys don't know about your subtle betrayals and lack of trust, nobody gets hurt! hey, everyone does it, right? you're just protecting yourself! you're being prudent! fair is fair! trust but verify, right? after all, this is all about you, gotta look out for number one, community and society is nice but at the end of the day it's you against the world. always keep that in mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493095) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:14 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493099) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: concupiscible shimmering station bbw lmao kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494096) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:30 PM Author: Electric shivering police squad lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494126) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration can't wait for the inevitable may "roofer showed up late then refused to do the job, what recourse do i have?" follow up to this dbg story arc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493030) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:03 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493048) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:05 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship they're here now. all seems good so far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493057) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:31 PM Author: Pearl range karate Actually, PE is buying up this type of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47495325) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:12 AM Author: Cheese-eating big foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492757) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:13 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship we use unlicensed beaners often but not on a roof, not like this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492759) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:17 AM Author: amethyst fragrant hairy legs that is a terrible idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493110) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:32 AM Author: hilarious liquid oxygen Siding is also ridiculously expensive. Actually, everything about houses is completely ridiculous and unreasonable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492852) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: Stimulating haunting puppy why do goys question why anything is expensive? its clear that (((they))) must make EVERYTHING expensive and u will pay for it, cause u are a goy. u must die for israel, never forget (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492869) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration btw i just bought a *SICK* sailboat for dirt cheap! it's a bit of a fixer-upper but i'm confident i can manage the repairs myself! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492954) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Stimulating haunting puppy DIE FAGGOT BENCHOD!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492964) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 7:24 PM Author: mischievous lay private investor Devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494644) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:50 AM Author: Iridescent Violent Knife Ladyboy $11.5k is not a lot of money
https://img.ifunny.co/images/165cba9311ea9e4d87af7224cb38eb5e95ad40e675e15888fb260d2acd5f1986_1.webp
You need to make a mental adjustment to grasp how much the USD has been inflated and is actually worth now |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship 11.5k is a lot for a 1 day job even by today's standards. we redid both bathrooms and paid like 5k all in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492961) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Iridescent Violent Knife Ladyboy (guy who definitely did not "re-do" one bathroom, let alone two) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492986) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship i didn't mean myself, dumb fuck. i bought the materials and had illegal mexicans do the work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47492994) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: Iridescent Violent Knife Ladyboy Grats on the new vanity countertop and LVT floor in your "re-done" bathroom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493016) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: self-centered cruise ship reglazed tubs and titles, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493027) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Smoky stage boistinker That seems in line, depends on the pitch of the roof and its complexity.
One cost is workers’ comp insurance for roofers is insanely expensive so that drives up the labor cost.
If you are reasonably fit you can roof your own house, but fuck that. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: Mauve mildly autistic double fault that seems cheap for a roof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493042) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: amethyst fragrant hairy legs just wait for a hailstorm you stupid goy and have insurance pay for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493043) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:09 AM Author: mind-boggling church Guy who represents several roofing companies here - all of the owners are rich proles. One owner I know has like two huge RV buses and six harleys, and his garage had like 4 of those huge gun safes that he says holds "a lot of guns". nonstop toys for this guy - another company I rep - the owners are south american "migrants" - cool as fuck dudes - worth millions in their mid to late 20s solely from the roofing biz (I've seen their net worth) - the work is actually dangerous as fuck - the work is extremely labor intensive - hard to keep employees - the business is shady - they often use drones to fly over neighborhoods after a storm to find "damage" and then hound homeowners with a "sales team" - they also regularly go up to do a free "roof evaluation" and find like one worn out shingle and use that to show the homeowner that they need a new roof - homeowners insurance is often the primary source of payment for these jobs, so many times the homeowner isn't even paying out of pocket for them. I've had many many disputes with homeowners who refused to hand over money that they insurance company sent them to pay for the roof |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:11 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop the homeowners need the money to pay for the increased premiums (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493085) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:25 PM Author: Garnet cumskin "I've had many many disputes with homeowners who refused to hand over money that they insurance company sent them to pay for the roof"
Please explain this one. Are these people who understand they are supposed to hand the check over and just want to be difficult in the hopes of keeping some of it, or are these ppl who don't understand why they are even getting a check, or something else. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:44 PM Author: mind-boggling church they supposedly "understand" that they get a check from the insurance comapny that they have to sign (often the check is written to both the homeowner and the roofing co, homeowner has to sign it, other times insurance company pays homeowner directly and is honor system supposed to pay that amount to roofer).
usually there is some dispute about the quality of work or something so the homeowner refuses to pay the money to the roofer. Other times the homeowner is just a moron and thinks they can pocket it.
a big part of the roofing companies jobs is to explain this shit to the homeowners and stay on top of them to issue payment to them. Usually there is no cost to the homeowner for these new roofs if there is a need to replace them (which is part of the fraud of this industry, many times people are sold new roof when they don't need it) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: Electric shivering police squad ty sounds shady for sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494133) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration how much will your premium increase if you claim a fraud roof replacement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494151) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 5:12 PM Author: mind-boggling church no clue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494273) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 6:35 PM Author: self-centered cruise ship will you even be able to ever get insurance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494499) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:04 PM Author: Smoky stage boistinker Funny story, lots of insurance companies won’t write policies with a roof over X years old (20-30 years). As the roof on my house is pushing 100 years old, this was an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496523) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 7:01 AM Author: beady-eyed library haunted graveyard That doesn’t sound right. They depreciate the roof based on age. You don’t get 100% for a 20 year old roof. Right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47495882) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 8:26 AM Author: mind-boggling church you might be right - the homeowner might pay a little bit too in some cases, cant remember (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47495931) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:08 PM Author: Smoky stage boistinker You can get insurance with full replacement value. Most policies are this way, it would be odd not to have that so your roof gets fucked or kitchen flooded you get a new one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496535) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop yeah you can just sell the roof and use the proceeds to cover the gap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496544) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:57 AM Author: aphrodisiac salmon corner pisswyrm roof. first day. roof tp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493229) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Bistre therapy rooves* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47493311) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 11:59 AM Author: Tan Razzle Elastic Band Abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496499) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:53 PM Author: aphrodisiac salmon corner pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496652) |
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Date: March 19th, 2024 7:16 AM Author: titillating bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47506443) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:16 PM Author: cracking saffron filthpig travel guidebook Because most of the time, insurance pays for them. Same as medical stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494093) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:38 PM Author: Carmine Irradiated Pozpig people would rather avoid doing their own roofing when possible, unlike various other home improvement projects. aside from the risks of falling, roofing is boring. i did one portion of a roof a while ago, and the entire process was tedious and mind-numbing.
-remove the existing shingles
-remove the tarpaper underneath
-inspect the wood underneath; replace anything with water damage
-inspect the rafters and the connections between rafters and the wood; nail down anything getting loose
-re-paper the wood
-individually tar and re-shingle the entire surface
it was horrifically dull. i would rather dig fence posts again than do more roofing, and i hate doing fences. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:42 PM Author: aquamarine diverse address internal respiration also, despite the low skill level generally, it is easy for some diy guy to fuck it up. like, you could probably learn all of roofing in a day, but if you don't have that knowledge and are going in based on youtube videos you are really risking fucking something up bigly.
if you fuck up most diy projects it's nbd to wait until a real prole goy comes and fixes your mistake. if you fuck up your roof? ljl. |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:48 PM Author: Carmine Irradiated Pozpig well yeah; you absolutely have to keep water from infiltrating into the wood under the shingles and the tarpaper. there are specific methods of checking your work to ensure that this is the case, and it's kind of easy to accidentally miss this part, because it is also boring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494187) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:09 PM Author: Smoky stage boistinker Use icedam on the ends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496538) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 5:15 PM Author: mind-boggling church exactly. There are some pretty huge consequences if you fuck it up.
its not hard to do, per say, but I'd rather have some 90IQ dude who has been doing these for years do it than me try it |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 6:24 PM Author: Umber talented church building I did this as a kid on our big house.
It seemed sort of chill but like the idea that a middle (or even lower class family) would re-shingle their own roof and have their 12 year old kid help is just completely incrompehensible in 2024.
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Date: March 14th, 2024 6:39 PM Author: laughsome property Relative prestige of trades ITT is 100% as accurate as the analysis by tradesmen about relative prestige of bankers, lawyers and accountants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494515) |
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Date: March 14th, 2024 6:43 PM Author: self-centered cruise ship proles inherently know MD>>>>>>>>>>>>> all others (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47494539) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 11:53 AM Author: Self-absorbed Exhilarant Piazza Dog Poop fee free to put out your own, bitchboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496482) |
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Date: March 15th, 2024 11:42 AM Author: Bistre therapy $11.5k for a roof is very cheap. I have budgeted $30k for mine when it will be needed.
It is not one day's work. Or shouldn't be. Properly done, this should take about 5 days with one Mexican doing it. Assuming he works from morning till night.
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Date: March 15th, 2024 12:52 PM Author: self-centered cruise ship there's like 5 mexicans up there. and they're on day 2 today and should be done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5504023&forum_id=2#47496651) |