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SCOTUS allows TX to deport illegals

Justice Sbarro is angry https://twitter.com/stevenmazie/s...
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
Holy shit.
hideous home
  03/19/24
wow, i agree with the outcome but that's gotta be some real ...
haunting address incel
  03/19/24
agreed
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
Didn't we establish that an individual state has the right t...
Exciting center
  03/19/24
"invasion" argument is unconvincing, supremacy cla...
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
It seemed convincing to me and something the framers actuall...
Exciting center
  03/19/24
i havent studied the historical record so im no expert on th...
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
yeah, that is total bullshit. calling this a conservative ro...
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
damn 120 man, whats your next move?
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
i'm just concerned about getting my HIV under control. my t ...
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
you could start six substacks
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
writing sounds kind of cool. maybe i could teach?
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
LOL
Gold twinkling uncleanness space
  03/19/24
go inhouse and do wage and hour shit or jump to hr side and...
high-end temple cuck
  03/19/24
i only do traditional labor (NLRA shit), so would be pretty ...
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
neither do any of the people inhouse, that’s why l&...
high-end temple cuck
  03/19/24
A literal AIDS fag and former biglaw (or “biglaw&rdquo...
drab talented plaza
  03/19/24
ladies gentlemen and everything in between, give it up for Y...
high-end temple cuck
  03/19/24
wtf it is a 90 yo law and they are *just now noticing* that'...
Concupiscible internal respiration sanctuary
  03/25/24
By "beyond simple unlawful entry," would you accep...
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
no probably not unless they are actively engaging in hostili...
razzle field degenerate
  03/19/24
*russia finally cracks ukraine, bypasses all defenses by wai...
high-end temple cuck
  03/19/24
i sympathize with texas enforcing lawful immigration policy ...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
I think Texas only has the right to stop illegal immigration...
hideous home
  03/19/24
asylum is a form normal lawful immigration* and the law allo...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
You do realize that aslyum could proceed just fine without T...
Exciting center
  03/19/24
*Japanese kamikaze invokes asylum laws upon apprehension*
hideous home
  03/19/24
pithy responses are good when you don't have a legal arg
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
How is this relevant to Hawaii (unless migrants are showing ...
Exciting center
  03/19/24
new poaster, first day? not aware of the hawaii judge meme? ...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
calm down faggot
demanding trip school
  03/19/24
So if 10 million chinamen massed on the southern border and ...
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
before i engage with you i need you to answer these threshol...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
I agree with most of what you're saying that is probably the...
exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy
  03/19/24
must answer threshold qs for engagement. don't answer questi...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
brutal, but earnest
exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy
  03/19/24
i see you edited that stuff in but it doesn't directly answe...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
Woah woah woah so you're saying that if the fed doesn't enfo...
exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy
  03/19/24
(not answered) can't have a debate about the law if you d...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
They do this in France. They have a (real) hypothetical high...
exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy
  03/19/24
1) I don't know what it means to "adjudicate" ...
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
...
exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy
  03/19/24
1) whether the "invader" is legally permitted to b...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
Pointing out that your dumbfuck questions require different ...
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
you don't have to answer "yes or no." you can qual...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
You mean stake my poasting career on whether Compromised Joh...
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
"the constitution would be interpreted differently if t...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
So you agree Roe was correctly decided until it wasn't?
floppy dun heaven
  03/19/24
we're talking about today. right now. if there were nine AOC...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
The supremacy clause doesn't apply to Article 1 Section 10 C...
hideous home
  03/19/24
it strains credulity you are a lawyer
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
I guess I will take 7 SCOTUS justices agreeing with me over ...
hideous home
  03/19/24
put your money where your mouth is. http://www.xoxohth.c...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
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  03/19/24
it's similar to calling this "immigration"
Aqua fat ankles
  03/19/24
Reasonable minds can disagree but it can be reasonably label...
hideous home
  03/19/24
But you need to check in with SCOTUS to confirm? What if the...
slimy chapel clown
  03/19/24
Invasion clause shit would almost certainly be treated as a ...
slimy chapel clown
  03/19/24
it's just vacating a stay. we'll see what happens with the c...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
...
Insecure yarmulke
  03/19/24
Cool. I'm skeptical Texas has the ability to deport illegals...
Hairraiser coral pit mad-dog skullcap
  03/19/24
Just toss them across the river with a trebuchet
Vivacious Love Of Her Life Goal In Life
  03/19/24
no one says they have to go to mexico, they just have to get...
haunting address incel
  03/19/24
...
internet-worthy territorial whorehouse striped hyena
  03/19/24
“sow chaos” === lol. kinsey gaffe?
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  03/19/24
explain the gaffe?
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
flame?
titillating gay gaming laptop friendly grandma
  03/19/24
rook!
sooty milk brethren
  03/19/24
Dis veddy veddy baaad, chaos baaad
internet-worthy territorial whorehouse striped hyena
  03/19/24
lol fucking kagan
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  03/19/24
“OUT! OUT! Take Sonia with you!”
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  03/19/24
LONG LIVE TEXAS
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  03/19/24
So is this still good for Trump like it was yesterday or nah...
Flirting Skinny Woman
  03/19/24
what happened yesterday?
Hateful laughsome depressive location
  03/19/24
get a fucking life already you mentally retarded jewish pedo...
elite cowardly stage
  03/19/24
...
Cerise Juggernaut
  03/19/24
Yeah this is actually good for Trump, I changed my mind.
Fighting Well-lubricated Range
  03/19/24
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diverse deer antler property
  03/19/24
I’m getting flashbacks of 2012 when cons claimed SCOTU...
Flirting Skinny Woman
  03/19/24
what the fuck are you talking about you TDS deranged mentall...
elite cowardly stage
  03/19/24
you were literally arguing that the fani willis stuff was ba...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
my HIV numbers are looking up bro
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
oh man i'm sorry to hear that, don't you want them to go dow...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/19/24
:(
cocky crackhouse ratface
  03/19/24
You couldn't energize a Romney "supporter" with a ...
Gold twinkling uncleanness space
  03/19/24
Lol at soto and Jackson dissenting what a fucking joke
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  03/19/24
DEI hires fuming!
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  03/19/24
SCOTUS majority averts civil war-- federalism wins
tan station
  03/19/24
50 laboratories for democracy!
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  03/19/24
JEWS WIN AGAIN!
vibrant bronze party of the first part
  03/19/24
states have rights, which the Federal Govt must acknowledge ...
tan station
  03/19/24
what if they don't acknowledge?
Hateful laughsome depressive location
  03/19/24
if the Federal Government fails to secure the border and pre...
tan station
  03/20/24
Shitcons confused, demanding libs explain.
slimy chapel clown
  03/20/24
Isn't this fake news? The Supreme Court seems to be doin...
Razzle-dazzle Menage
  03/19/24
...
slimy chapel clown
  03/20/24
lol at spics
ivory indirect expression
  03/19/24
ljl "there will be chaos if we have borders"
Federal sex offender feces
  03/19/24
order creates chaos iirc
sooty milk brethren
  03/19/24
any of the conlaw scholars itt that predicted a texas victor...
spruce adventurous corner telephone
  03/20/24
Dumb post. I don't think a single person did any analysi...
Razzle-dazzle Menage
  03/20/24


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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:33 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

Justice Sbarro is angry

https://twitter.com/stevenmazie/status/1770151826479825096

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507597)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:36 PM
Author: hideous home

Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507605)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:37 PM
Author: haunting address incel

wow, i agree with the outcome but that's gotta be some real shitty law, like a conservative roe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507611)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507616)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:46 PM
Author: Exciting center

Didn't we establish that an individual state has the right to protect itself from foreign invasion? How is this like Roe which took away states' rights?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507638)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:50 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

"invasion" argument is unconvincing, supremacy clause seems like it should win the day to me. like roe, seems like judges searching for a preferred outcome rather than strictly following the law as written

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507656)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:51 PM
Author: Exciting center

It seemed convincing to me and something the framers actually contemplated but not a con law master man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507663)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

i havent studied the historical record so im no expert on the subject, but "invasion" sounds to me to like it would go beyond simple unlawful entry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507685)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:28 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

yeah, that is total bullshit. calling this a conservative roe sounds about right.

looks like my career is over, btw. tesla, amazon and some other companies have challenged the constitutionality of the NLRA, and SCOTUS might actually agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507771)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:39 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

damn 120 man, whats your next move?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507808)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:41 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

i'm just concerned about getting my HIV under control. my t cells are way low rn.

actually, i dunno. if that were to happen i'd just leave law and get some bullshit job.

i'm 45 and my wife and i have around 2m in retirement accounts, $200k and growing in crypto, house is largely paid off, college for our two kids is mostly funded through 529s, etc. so i guess i don't NEED to keep making 400-500k a year and i kinda want to get out of this in the next 10 years anyway. following the rule of thumb that index funds tend to double every 10 years, then by the time we're 65, we should have around 8 mil even if we don't save another dime toward retirement.

ideas for a job where i can make like 120-150k and kind of chill out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507813)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

you could start six substacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507824)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:50 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

writing sounds kind of cool. maybe i could teach?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507841)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: Gold twinkling uncleanness space

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507863)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:46 PM
Author: high-end temple cuck

go inhouse and do wage and hour shit or jump to hr side and immediately by default become the most competent hr professional that ever lived

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507827)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:50 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

i only do traditional labor (NLRA shit), so would be pretty useless at wage-hour stuff. if i did wage-hour, i'd honestly probably just switch sides at this point for variety.

HR sounds not too bad, although my knowledge is concentrated in labor relations. i know a SHIT TON about this, but the tradeoff is i don't know a whole lot about employment law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507840)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: high-end temple cuck

neither do any of the people inhouse, that’s why l&e firms exist

sell em on ur ability to plan and create organizational strategy to manage risk and then align operations, and how that’s extensible to any area of law w expert support, which you’d need anyway bc no attorney knows all the gay little details of every state and any entity big enough to have a l&e attorney is going to be a multi-state employer anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507844)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: drab talented plaza

A literal AIDS fag and former biglaw (or “biglaw”) partner would be promoted to CHRO in any Fortune 100 company within five years of starting as an individual contributor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508137)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: high-end temple cuck

ladies gentlemen and everything in between, give it up for YOUR new chief people officer and leader of the rainbow alliance/love wins (tie between the names and both were so good they couldn’t choose - “so nice they named it twice!”) employee affinity group, zurichisstained! tee! peeeeeeee!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508621)



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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:08 PM
Author: Concupiscible internal respiration sanctuary

wtf it is a 90 yo law and they are *just now noticing* that's it's unconstitutional

Seems like bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47524888)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:35 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

By "beyond simple unlawful entry," would you accept mass unlawful entry of military-aged males with no vetting or background checks (some of whom have turned out to have confirmed ties to terrorist organizations), in quantities sufficient to constitute, literally, a medium-sized state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507792)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:40 PM
Author: razzle field degenerate

no probably not unless they are actively engaging in hostilities against the state. sounds like an issue of enforcement of immigration policy, which is the province of the federal government.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507812)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:48 PM
Author: high-end temple cuck

*russia finally cracks ukraine, bypasses all defenses by waiting ten mississippis after crossing border to attack*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507834)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

i sympathize with texas enforcing lawful immigration policy but this is tcr. just like we can't have 50 states deciding ballot access rules, we can't have 50 states deciding immigration policy. if texas can enforce immigration law and deport people, what stops a hawaii judge from deciding that a migrant is here legally and texas needing to give full faith and credit to that decision?

(btw libs, this is called not being a retard creating an unworkable system to get to a single outcome i'd prefer. i would absolutely love for texas to send illegals back across the rio grande via canon)

although i do hope that scotus allows texas to continuing to deport illegals to other states. which is 180 as fuck. i love to see shitlib state officials talk about how immigration is our strength and *immediately* reverse course once they are bearing the cost of their policies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507869)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: hideous home

I think Texas only has the right to stop illegal immigration. I would doubt they can interfere with normal lawful immigration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507895)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

asylum is a form normal lawful immigration* and the law allows texas to deport them regardless of ongoing federal proceedings.

*i am not defending the current regime on it's merits. only that, by your very own argument, this law would fail. i agree that the current regime is fucked and needs to be changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507925)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:24 PM
Author: Exciting center

You do realize that aslyum could proceed just fine without Texas being invaded every second of the day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507969)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: hideous home

*Japanese kamikaze invokes asylum laws upon apprehension*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508118)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

pithy responses are good when you don't have a legal arg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508119)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:18 PM
Author: Exciting center

How is this relevant to Hawaii (unless migrants are showing up there in masses and the federal government refuses to act, or actually enables them)?

I don't see why your analysis even goes past the invasion angle, unless you just concluded there is no question of fact as to whether Texas is being invaded by foreigners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507947)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:33 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

new poaster, first day? not aware of the hawaii judge meme? this has nothing actually to do with hawaii, only that the would allow rogue partisan judges and states to reek havoc. i seem to recall california sharing a border with mexico btw.

you sound ***EXACTLY*** like shitlibs saying the colorado ballot thing was ok because ***INSURRECTION*** was self-executing. it's mind blowing.

this isn't about illegals crossing into texas borders. it's about them already here and going through the federal procedures. a state can't unilaterally determine they are being invaded and they nullify federal law. this is not a serious conlaw law argument. it's even easier argument to debunk than the insurrection shit because you can just point to the supremacy clause.

immigration law is wholly federal law. regardless of whether you think immigration law is shitty and poorly enforced (i agree) and as much as you sympathize with texas wanting to expel migrants because of that (i agree) you can't have 50 states deciding whether an invasion is happening and using that as a hook to nullify federal law.

but i am glad when shit like this happens because it serves as a nice reminder that my fellows cons can be just as unprincipled, retarded, and outcome-determinative as shitlibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508005)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:38 PM
Author: demanding trip school

calm down faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508024)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:27 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

So if 10 million chinamen massed on the southern border and then all came across at once, it would be an "immigration policy" issue until they did something hostile? How many people and how hostile do they have to be before an invasion occurs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507981)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:45 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

before i engage with you i need you to answer these threshold questions regarding the invasion clause. this is what the invasion clause states:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion..."

1) if a state determines it is being invaded, can it deport invaders regardless of whether the invader is currently being adjudicated by the federal system?

2) being that immigration law is federal law and enforced by the federal government, are states able to unilaterally determine that the federal law and enforcement is insufficient, an invasion has occurred, and because an invasion has occurred nullify federal law and enforcement with it's own policy?

3) if federal law is created that holds an invasion has not occurred, and being that federal law is supreme according to the supremacy cause, does the invasion clause permit states to supersede the supremacy clause by unilaterally holding an invasion is occurring?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508044)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:55 PM
Author: exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy

I agree with most of what you're saying that is probably the most accurate argument. However, just consider hypothetically that a roaming gang of foreign barbarians are wreaking havoc in Texas and the federal government declines to call it an invasion. Let's say they're on tanks and knocking down buildings and terrorizing citizens. Still, no response from Washington.

Does the supremacy clause kick in and the state just has to shrug and go, well, our hands are tied because Washington has made the call? I don't think this was in the vein of what the Framers intended. Surely, states have *some* right to defend themselves. Obviously states can arrest illegals for state crimes without federal authority. An illegal who shoots someone can still get arrested for murder. So, why can't they get arrested for being here illegally? Maybe if they have some sort of federal documentation saying they have the right to be in the United States. But if there's no record of it, they're violating state law as they would any other state law.

I believe the supremacy clause only kicks in if an immigrant has federal documentation stating that they have the right to be in the United States. Less this, states should be free to arrest them for breaking state laws. The Constitution doesn't say anywhere that people can come into the country illegally and are not subject to state law.

If they come here, they are violating federal law, period. They are in violation whether or not the federal government apprehends and deports them. At that point they are fugitive aliens who don't have any right to be here, again, irrespective of Washington's actions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508071)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:59 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

must answer threshold qs for engagement. don't answer questions with questions!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508081)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy

brutal, but earnest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508088)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:04 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

i see you edited that stuff in but it doesn't directly answer the threshold questions. but if you choose to answer i'd like to point out that:

>If they come here, they are violating federal law, period. They are in violation whether or not the federal government apprehends and deports them. At that point they are fugitive aliens who don't have any right to be here, again, irrespective of Washington's actions.

is absolutely circular reasoning. you're saying "they are breaking federal law regardless of what the federal law says."

if federal law and enforcement (washington) holds they aren't breaking federal law... they aren't breaking federal law. federal law isn't just what you wish it to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508101)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:06 PM
Author: exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy

Woah woah woah so you're saying that if the fed doesn't enforce something it's not a violation? How is that going for marijuana smokers? It's still a federal crime despite very few people ever being arrested for it. The law on the books is the law. The federal government is the "democratically" elected (ljl) enforcement arm. They have considerable power to wield the law. But they don't have the power to change what the law says without Congressional action. If Congress passes a law criminalizing something, it is a crime regardless of whether anyone is arrested for it. Period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508109)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:09 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

(not answered)

can't have a debate about the law if you don't tell me what you think the law means. answering Qs with Qs with Qs isn't productive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508113)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:34 PM
Author: exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy

They do this in France. They have a (real) hypothetical high court court that rules on imaginary cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508178)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:34 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

1) I don't know what it means to "adjudicate" an invader. What is the question being adjudicated?

2) (a) the president/administrative state act unlawfully when they violate the take care clause and they cannot decline to enforce the laws congress passes, which is the root cause of this issue. ample caselaw on all of this that you clearly haven't read; (b) the state law is not "nullifying" federal law, it is interfering with an illegal decision *not* to enforce federal law. what federal law is the administration being prevented from enforcing?

3) Maybe you should try reading the part of the supremacy clause where it says that the CONSTITUTION is supreme. also might want to read the 10th amendment, champ. federal laws passed by congress do not trump rights directly enumerated to the states by the constitution

I do not think your arguments are good, and what you describe as the "invasion" clause is incomplete. Article I Section 10 is also important. There are textual arguments stemming from the vague and limited wording of these clauses that are much stronger than where you are heading. Article I Section 8 in particular calls into question the scope of whatever power those other clauses intended to grant the states: "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508177)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: exhilarant alcoholic stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508182)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:58 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

1) whether the "invader" is legally permitted to be in the united states.

2 & 3) absolute non-answers.

and i get why you've done that because there is no way to answer my questions plainly while both a) getting to the answer you want and b) interpreting the constitution reasonably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508216)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 6:50 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

Pointing out that your dumbfuck questions require different legal analysis than the actual case we are discussing is not a "non-answer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508332)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 6:57 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

you don't have to answer "yes or no." you can qualify your answer. but you won't, because there is no way to do this with a rational interpretation of the law while getting to the result you'd like.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506342&mc=1&forum_id=2

just put your money where your mouth is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508348)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:26 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

You mean stake my poasting career on whether Compromised John and Birdbrain Amy vote with me? That isn't a fair bet and aligning your legal reasoning with theirs isn't something to be proud of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508804)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

"the constitution would be interpreted differently if the members of the body that interpreted the constitution aligned with me."

oh, ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508829)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:44 PM
Author: floppy dun heaven

So you agree Roe was correctly decided until it wasn't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508846)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:58 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

we're talking about today. right now. if there were nine AOCs on the court anything is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508881)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: hideous home

The supremacy clause doesn't apply to Article 1 Section 10 Clause 3 that Texas relied on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508189)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:54 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

it strains credulity you are a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508209)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 6:25 PM
Author: hideous home

I guess I will take 7 SCOTUS justices agreeing with me over a TTT grad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508257)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 6:58 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

put your money where your mouth is.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506342&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508349)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:21 PM
Author: internet-worthy territorial whorehouse striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507958)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:59 PM
Author: Aqua fat ankles

it's similar to calling this "immigration"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507697)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:05 PM
Author: hideous home

Reasonable minds can disagree but it can be reasonably labeled an invasion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507889)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:56 PM
Author: slimy chapel clown

But you need to check in with SCOTUS to confirm? What if they say it's not an invasion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509134)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: slimy chapel clown

Invasion clause shit would almost certainly be treated as a political question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509127)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

it's just vacating a stay. we'll see what happens with the circuit court and inevitable appeal. kagan mentioned it "shouldn't matter whether it's an admin stay or stay pending appeal." it seems to me like this all might be about procedure.

knowing roberts et al i doubt this scotus is going to sign up for a state removing people from the country. i wouldn't jump to conclusions about a conservative roe until scotus reaches the merits.

also, there should be some sort of appeal to scotus where they just decide the merits right away in cases that are almost surely going to reach them anyway. all of this procedure is retarded, a waste of time, and leaves things in limbo for far too long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507848)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:28 PM
Author: Insecure yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509078)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:41 PM
Author: Hairraiser coral pit mad-dog skullcap

Cool. I'm skeptical Texas has the ability to deport illegals without Mexico's consent, but hopefully they manage to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507621)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:48 PM
Author: Vivacious Love Of Her Life Goal In Life

Just toss them across the river with a trebuchet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507649)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:54 PM
Author: haunting address incel

no one says they have to go to mexico, they just have to get out of texas. let them toob to the gulf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507679)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:54 PM
Author: internet-worthy territorial whorehouse striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507682)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:53 PM
Author: titillating gay gaming laptop friendly grandma

“sow chaos”

===

lol. kinsey gaffe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507672)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

explain the gaffe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507773)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:22 PM
Author: titillating gay gaming laptop friendly grandma

flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507966)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:03 PM
Author: sooty milk brethren

rook!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507876)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:54 PM
Author: internet-worthy territorial whorehouse striped hyena

Dis veddy veddy baaad, chaos baaad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507684)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Frum zombie-like principal's office fanboi

lol fucking kagan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507686)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: frisky soggy factory reset button

“OUT! OUT! Take Sonia with you!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507971)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:04 PM
Author: Lemon Electric Travel Guidebook

LONG LIVE TEXAS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507710)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: Flirting Skinny Woman

So is this still good for Trump like it was yesterday or nah?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507734)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:15 PM
Author: Hateful laughsome depressive location

what happened yesterday?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507741)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:16 PM
Author: elite cowardly stage

get a fucking life already you mentally retarded jewish pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507749)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Cerise Juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507998)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: Fighting Well-lubricated Range

Yeah this is actually good for Trump, I changed my mind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507833)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:16 PM
Author: diverse deer antler property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507747)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: Flirting Skinny Woman

I’m getting flashbacks of 2012 when cons claimed SCOTUS would rule against Obamacare which would make Obama look weak thereby dooming him in 2012, but also if SCOTUS ruled for Obamacare that would just energize Romney supporters and similarly doom Obama. You guys are making the same arguments now about Trump and immigration, i.e., that it’s good for Trump either way. You can’t have it both ways cons and anyway Trump is going to lose regardless. There’s no getting around running a shit candidate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507760)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:37 PM
Author: elite cowardly stage

what the fuck are you talking about you TDS deranged mentally retarded jewish psycho? seriously go get some fucking fresh air for a change. this is not healthy how you are living your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507799)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:41 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

you were literally arguing that the fani willis stuff was bad for trump. libs are the kings of "heads we win, tails you lose" thinking. although cons aren't immune to it. but you seem to be pointing to one "side" instead of individuals.

quote someone here saying scotus ruling for texas would be a bad thing? even if it is bad for trumps election chances (it's not) most of us would still want this to happen. it's like when you fags were screeching about what a massive self-pwn overturning roe was because of the mid-terms. you guys don't get it -- we actually want this shit to happen. we want illegals out and aren't going to worry about how that might affect the future of elections. the purpose of politics is the affect policy, not to elect certain people (who, i guess, would do nothing?)

you guys don't seem to get that, which is why you never fucking do anything. which, in the grandest of ironies, is a big reason why biden is going to lose. turns out doing nothing is worse than doing something even if there are consequences for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507814)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

my HIV numbers are looking up bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507821)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

oh man i'm sorry to hear that, don't you want them to go down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507849)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: cocky crackhouse ratface

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507867)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:03 PM
Author: Gold twinkling uncleanness space

You couldn't energize a Romney "supporter" with a fucking cattle prod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507878)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:28 PM
Author: Lascivious tanning salon

Lol at soto and Jackson dissenting what a fucking joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507772)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:36 PM
Author: fragrant medicated abode

DEI hires fuming!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507795)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 3:31 PM
Author: tan station

SCOTUS majority averts civil war-- federalism wins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47507781)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:38 PM
Author: titillating gay gaming laptop friendly grandma

50 laboratories for democracy!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508021)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 4:59 PM
Author: vibrant bronze party of the first part

JEWS WIN AGAIN!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508086)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 5:06 PM
Author: tan station

states have rights, which the Federal Govt must acknowledge to balance shared power in our system

https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1750625064079311008



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508106)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:39 PM
Author: Hateful laughsome depressive location

what if they don't acknowledge?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508831)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: tan station

if the Federal Government fails to secure the border and preserve law and order within a sovereign state, does Texas have the right to enforce its own immigration and criminal laws to that end? stay tuned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47510056)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: slimy chapel clown

Shitcons confused, demanding libs explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47510077)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Menage

Isn't this fake news?

The Supreme Court seems to be doing what it always does - hiding behind procedure and saying they're not going to rule on it until every single court below them rules on it and does their homework for them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47508850)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:54 AM
Author: slimy chapel clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47510079)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:23 PM
Author: ivory indirect expression

lol at spics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509070)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:50 PM
Author: Federal sex offender feces

ljl "there will be chaos if we have borders"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509120)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:55 PM
Author: sooty milk brethren

order creates chaos iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47509131)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:32 AM
Author: spruce adventurous corner telephone

any of the conlaw scholars itt that predicted a texas victory here want to weigh in on this with the 5th cir reinstating the stay within hours of this opinion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47510039)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 7:58 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Menage

Dumb post.

I don't think a single person did any analysis on this.

Libs who were like "omg the supreme court is so corrupt" are the ones who were owned..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506234&forum_id=2#47511653)