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Date: March 24th, 2024 1:46 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522247) |
Date: March 24th, 2024 1:47 PM Author: sepia therapy native ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522249) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 1:48 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school he will be implicated in the gambling investigation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522255) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 1:54 PM Author: sepia therapy native who's gambling on what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522267) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:38 PM Author: carnelian awkward site Autoadmit.com MegaPoaster Madness would be my educated guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532782) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 2:02 PM Author: Trip den athletic conference I hope he gets Pete Rose'd. Fuck the Dodgers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522294) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 8:59 PM Author: Floppy Base Queen Of The Night 180 fuck the dodgers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47523293) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: fuchsia jet-lagged theatre goal in life No way in hell they win the WS this year for several reasons. Screencap this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525640) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:47 PM Author: exhilarant learning disabled jewess Not if he can’t pitch and Yamamoto keeps sucking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47526457) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:30 PM Author: carnelian awkward site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532758) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 2:12 PM Author: Multi-colored Lime Parlour They will blame the interpreter, who will go into hiding in Japan, and eventually the whole thing will be dropped. Also, unrelatedly, Ohtani will become a vocal advocate of every shitlib cause (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522317) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 2:14 PM Author: exhilarant learning disabled jewess CR. why do you think EPAH happened to visit Japan immediately after this happened? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522319) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary ohtani didnt do shit, turns out ippei has been a huge fraud for a decade or more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522401) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 6:50 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school there’s no way that dude was running up eight figure gambling debts on mid law salaries or that shohei would make random ass $5m wires under his own name to shady guidos out of simple benevolence, or because he somehow doesn’t pay attention to his fucking bank account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522971) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 6:53 PM Author: Bonkers Senate Rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47522976) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 8:59 PM Author: Floppy Base Queen Of The Night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47523295) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:38 PM Author: excitant menage Ohtani doesn't know English. The interpreter could have got him to sign anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525619) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 7:17 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525775) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: carnelian awkward site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532145) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531602) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 8:52 PM Author: Seedy hateful church pistol If he's not it will show how much the baseball commissioner is willing to look the other way.
Contrast this with Roger Goodell going HAM on Tom Brady for possibly deflating footballs (that he probably didn't even deflate). |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 8:54 PM Author: violet slap-happy antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47523284) |
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Date: March 24th, 2024 9:00 PM Author: Floppy Base Queen Of The Night MLB literally promotes gambling on Fan Dual, Draft Kings, etc. Who gives a shit? |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:37 PM Author: Seedy hateful church pistol You're right MLB has a long history of being lenient on people who bet on sports (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47526407) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: Ocher turdskin forum he's denying it all rn.
https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1772382434417369291 |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:07 PM Author: diverse heaven messiness Not allowing questions obviously proves his innocence. move along bigot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525548) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:21 PM Author: fuchsia jet-lagged theatre goal in life God put a curse on the Dodgers when they invited the trans “sisters” last year. They subsequently got swept by the lowly DBacks and now this Ohtani scandal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525579) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:39 PM Author: tan rehab 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525623) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:46 PM Author: exhilarant learning disabled jewess 1 fucking 90
Allah Akbar! |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse xo kershaw publicly objected to that decision, that group makes fun of christianity/nuns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531606) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: fuchsia jet-lagged theatre goal in life Exactly. Fuck them and fuck the Dodgers for inviting those freaks when the majority of their fans are Catholic. They tried to sweep it away by having them appear two hours before the game started with no one there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531817) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:27 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary he seemed legit angry and emotional. i believe him. ODNW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525598) |
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Date: March 26th, 2024 5:13 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school there is zero chance that ippei was the only person monitoring his bank account. either ohtani saw the wires and knew about them, or his financial advisors / agency would have flagged seven-figure wires to an illegal bookmaking operation / unexplained guidos. either way ippei couldn't press the wire button on his own.
and it wouldn't have been enough for ippei just to get ohtani to "sign something" to approve random-ass massive wires. if he has financial advisors i'm sure they are also japanese speakers and they could tell him that there were discrepancies / something was up with what ippei was having him sign. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:57 AM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary i wouldnt be surprised at all if ippei had authority over his bank account. ohtani has regular bills like anyone, cant read english and wouldnt want to bother with dealing with them. its common for interpreters to play a personal assistant role for players and ohtani being so close to ippei probably trusted him. japanese media reported that ippei had control over an account which ohtani had set aside for charitable endeavors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531616) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:28 AM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school ippei was at most a day-to-day manager but that doesn't mean he had control over shohei's finances as though he is a vegetable, shohei would have had to have confirmed transactions, or his finance people. and frankly i doubt that ippei was the sole manager even if he did serve in that capacity in any way, he's just a translator and at most a personal assistant. shohei probably has a small team of finance guys who are all over his accounts and managing his shit.
the change of story as sanctioned by shohei's legal team doesn't make sense. he's fucked.
i wonder if ippei was the one gambling on shohei's behalf and with his blessing but shohei didn't know the counterparty was an illegal bookmaker, or maybe ippei ended up placing bets on baseball without shohei knowing, and now he needs to distance himself. either way it's his name on the checks. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:37 AM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary the "change of story" totally makes sense when you realize "shohei's team" was getting all their information from ippei, who was just trying to save his own ass. shohei is not "fucked" and will be totally fine. no way he goes as hard as he did at the press conference if he was involved in any way. the conspiracy theories about this are getting ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531697) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:48 AM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school by the time the first interview was given, ohtani had already hired a crisis pr team and spokesperson, and was giving direct quotes to them. when the agent was first alerted to the payments it became a big deal and the whole ohtani side was coordinating to figure out how to present it. there's no way shohei wasn't fully in on the story the first time around.
the people making this argument either aren't fully aware of the timeline or are willfully ignorant ohtani simps who don't want to believe the worst. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary you're naive. "ohtani" didnt directly hire anyone and the quotes provided to these english speaking spokesmen were provided directly from ippei. they were fabricated. actually, more likely the pr firm drafted the quotes themselves and asked ippei to get shohei to sign off on them, which it seems he never did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531723) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:55 AM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school if ohtani truly wasn't aware that at least several million dollars had vanished from his accounts and allegedly went to illegal bookmakers, there's no way that he (or his agent) just hires a crisis pr team and says "just deal with it, don't bother me," and then gets involved only after ippei handles the whole story construction and interview.
you only hire a crisis pr team when you know there's a crisis, and if there's a perceived crisis there's no way shohei wasn't part of the conversation. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary per shohei, ippei was controlling all of the information. this makes sense, his lawyers, his pr, everyone is going to communicate in english through his interpreter. if all communications were running through ippei, and ippei actually stole the money from shohei, it jives that he would keep shohei in the dark, and shohei's story that he didnt know shit until after the game when ippei addressed the team adds up.
if shohei was truly involved, he is putting himself at great risk by directly accusing ippei of stealing from him, making police reports, cooperating with investigators, etc. the truth will come out in due course and i dont see how his lawyers would sign off on his response unless he was supremely confident he did nothing wrong here. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school if shohei truly didn't know millions of dollars of payments were going out (to a criminal enterprise) and was alerted by the reporter through his agent, that's when shit gets real and it's no longer a simple matter of ippei filtering the communications between shohei and everyone else. the fact that they hired a crisis pr team shows that shit got real. i can't envision them reaching that stage without shohei getting more directly involved and made aware of everything going on. at that point everything is happening in real time and it’s too much for ippei to be able to manipulate what gets through to shohei without cracks forming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531803) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:49 PM Author: dashing embarrassed to the bone public bath haunted graveyard Shouldn't be hard to figure out the truth or at least whether someone is lying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47525659) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:37 PM Author: carnelian awkward site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532778) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:45 AM Author: excitant menage He's fucked.
https://twitter.com/bobknowsball69/status/1772630363061309592?t=0IFIIt7quQos8edw5Q88zg&s=19 |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:50 AM Author: offensive aqua wrinkle windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531597) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Pale concupiscible double fault stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531609) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531611) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: amethyst dingle berry property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531834) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:37 PM Author: carnelian awkward site Okay, I lol’d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532777) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:02 PM Author: Silver mind-boggling meetinghouse kitty Uh... who gives a shit if Ohtani gambled on sports? Everyone does that lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531765) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Ebony Ratface Library the US and their puritanical bullshit laws is lolzy, esp when niggas dont have to follow any laws and beaners can just waltz across the border to rape and murder ur datter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531810) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:42 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary its particularly retarded since everything is PRESENTED BY DRAFTKINGS now, but those are the rules (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531819) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 1:04 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school my theory is that, once shohei started making $$$, ippei told shohei that he liked to gamble and could make him some $ (legally) doing so. shohei, being naive and a good bro, said sure and bankrolled his shit, with a handshake agreement in place that ippei would earn a performance fee on his winnings. shohei trusted ippei and let him do his shit without oversight, and assumed that it was all going through legal channels since gambling is so pervasive now.
ippei told his bookie that he was good for $$$ because shohei was behind it (and maybe shohei's name was on the checks at this point, but maybe not). and the bookie liked that he could say that shohei was a client. so the amounts were allowed to get out of hand. somewhere along the way shohei realizes that ippei is getting in way over his head and bails him out, and maybe the betting ends there. but by now shohei's name is for sure on checks to the bookie.
then the reporter comes along and shohei realizes that all the payments he was greenlighting were going to an illegal operation, with his name on some of the checks. at first he thinks he can get off easily enough by saying that it was ippei and not him doing the gambling, and that he was just bailing his bro out, which is kind of close to the truth in a real-world sense, but not in a legal sense. he thinks that he's in the clear as long as he says that it was ippei doing the gambling, not him.
then the lawyers step in and tell shohei that he's fucked since it was in his name (and maybe they came to realize that there was betting on baseball going on that hasn't come out yet), and they need a new story asap. they concoct a "theft" theory that says that shohei was being stolen from because ippei was not forthright about the counterparty and nature and magnitude of the gambling.
i don't necessarily think shohei was willfully or consciously up to anything nefarious but his name was on the checks so he'll be a victim of his own naivete and good nature and unfamiliarity with the law. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: Appetizing Burgundy Sneaky Criminal Orchestra Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531988) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: amethyst dingle berry property tl;dr this is baseball's pizzagate, correct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47531999) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: Stimulating Faggot Firefighter Corn Cake If Ohtani were smart, he would have told Ippei "you gotta take the fall here, but afterward you will get $5 million + another $5 million spread over years 5-15"
Instead, regardless of the truth, Ippei will blame Ohtani nonstop (avoiding jail, being pissed, getting $$$ for his story)
Or get Ippei back to Japan and have the Yakuza handle it |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 2:10 PM Author: Silver mind-boggling meetinghouse kitty Apparently you can't pay anyone that much money without the whole world knowing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532107) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 3:45 PM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse why do you think he didn't do this? did ippei already flip? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532270) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: apoplectic thriller telephone school there is no more fall to be taken because shohei's name was on the checks. shohei is directly and unavoidably implicated in paying an illegal gambling ring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532287) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:26 PM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse can't he and ippei just say ippei had permission to sign shohei's name and mail payments?
or in the alternative, can't they just say that ippei managed everything, just put checks in front of shohei, and shohei just signed them all without asking questions |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:37 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary there are no checks. these were wire transfers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532502) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:40 PM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse thanks. so it sounds like he can just blame this all on ippei as long as ippei plays along, and the feds don't find communications directly from shohei to the bookkeeper (unless it's just texts or something we can also say are from ippei) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532519) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:59 PM Author: frum cobalt hospital hairy legs Cr if Ippei is willing (including maybe going to prison?), he can say it was all him. Wire transfers where Ohtani had to appear in person? No problem: Ippei said he was Ohtani and rayciss wealth managers couldn't tell him apart because all AZNs look alike. Conversely if he's not secretly getting taken care of, he has every incentive to say it's all Ohtani's fault and burn it all down. |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:01 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary if ippei can prove ohtani was involved, he has a slam dunk multi million dollar defamation claim against him right now
however, i maintain that the most likely case is shohei is telling the truth and had nothing to do with this |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:18 PM Author: offensive aqua wrinkle windowlicker Is it defamation if it's only delivered in english through a translator? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532709) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: Cerebral Fat Ankles Whorehouse (dodgers fan) ippei doesn't want to win a defamation case. presumably he wants to help keep the golden goose alive and prosperous...his whole career is being valet/roommate/interpreter/shabbos goy so shohei can focus on 100% baseball |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:03 PM Author: khaki soul-stirring sanctuary That's 100% off the table now and he's now a villain in his home country. He's fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532856) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:18 PM Author: Pale concupiscible double fault stock car From my understanding of Japanese culture, Ippei will almost certainly commit seppuku. At a minimum, his sense of honor will not let him turn on Ohtani. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532703) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: Floppy Base Queen Of The Night 13! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532770) |
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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:35 PM Author: carnelian awkward site The Gujarati Dr. Gregory House… tp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508449&forum_id=2#47532773) |