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New HVAC Unit for 2,000 sq ft House Costs $45,000 (link)

Austin Tunnell @AustinTunnell Holy ***t. I just got a qu...
Yellow regret roommate
  04/22/24
it's an unrealistic quote but make no mistake any work on th...
cobalt metal parlour really tough guy
  04/22/24
the unit is the least of the cost. It's the labor and ductwo...
Ocher fluffy abode
  04/22/24
i replaced an hvac system on a rental around this size with ...
Aromatic range wagecucks
  04/22/24
TCR. Unless you live in NYC, these people have no experience...
Emerald feces faggotry
  04/22/24
It's only recently that air conditioning has become somethin...
obsidian hell
  04/22/24
...
Yellow regret roommate
  04/22/24
people in hot climates will give up washing machines, refrig...
Aromatic range wagecucks
  04/22/24
florida and texas aren't even inhabitable without them
Yellow regret roommate
  04/22/24
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00144...
Aromatic range wagecucks
  04/22/24
Also, a central air system had a typical lifespan of 20 year...
Khaki cumskin
  04/22/24
yep same with all appliances. my refrigerator and washer and...
Yellow regret roommate
  04/22/24
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Khaki cumskin
  04/22/24
(((smart))) indeed
Garnet Hyperventilating Quadroon Faggot Firefighter
  04/22/24
I grew up in a 1100 sf ft house with window unit AC
big patrolman
  04/22/24
You are Poor
Yellow regret roommate
  04/22/24
it was probably a brooklyn brownstone, he's a Fraud
sapphire wrinkle
  04/23/24
Nah. Upstairs is like $3500 and downstairs is like $4500
Umber liquid oxygen
  04/22/24
I just replaced a high efficiency heating + new AC unit for ...
Odious yarmulke
  04/22/24
$35K of this is ductwork. Use SpacePak. It was developed for...
Geriatric sanctuary pistol
  04/22/24
85% of the private credit market is HVAC
walnut affirmative action jewess
  04/22/24
I own a lot of rental property. A furnace for your 2000 sq f...
Carmine tanning salon ratface
  04/22/24
I predict a big move away from central air towards window un...
Mentally impaired spot hissy fit
  04/23/24
Are these window units still noisy as hell or are they quiet...
Khaki cumskin
  04/23/24
Just think how many Korean whores that will buy the installe...
Gold Spectacular School Cafeteria
  04/23/24
that's the "I don't want to deal with retrofitting your...
fuchsia love of her life
  04/23/24


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Date: April 22nd, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: Yellow regret roommate

Austin Tunnell

@AustinTunnell

Holy ***t. I just got a quote to replace our HVAC unit, ductwork and everything, on a 2,000 sq/ft house, for $45,000.

No joke. The guys that quoted know I have a building co (subs mainly do new construction), are a reputable company but quoting normal equipment (nothing super efficient), and it’s admittedly a bit more work than standard—lath and plaster to cut through, and no insulation in the walls (historic house) so a 5 ton unit.

But this blew me away. I was expecting $30k tops. Told them so and they didn’t budge.

Is this the new normal??! How can anyone afford anything?

Guy also said these new units keep getting more complex and only to text them to last ~15 years.

From a rent perspective, over 15 years that’s $3k/year without considering time value of money, annual maintenance, or actually utility costs, JUST TO COVER THE HVAC UNIT ITSELF.

Obviously going to get more quotes, but if this is remotely real…rents are going to go up a lot more, and homeownership, even if people can afford to buy, people won’t be able to afford to maintain.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602150)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 4:04 PM
Author: cobalt metal parlour really tough guy

it's an unrealistic quote but make no mistake any work on the house is extremely fucking expensive these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602157)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 4:06 PM
Author: Ocher fluffy abode

the unit is the least of the cost. It's the labor and ductwork.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602163)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: Aromatic range wagecucks

i replaced an hvac system on a rental around this size with an ultra high efficiency high end system and it was 15k. quotes for low end systems were like 8k.

this dude is trying to retrofit in ductwork. no one does that unless they're a richmo renovating a farmhouse or something. this is what mini-splits are for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602172)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:53 PM
Author: Emerald feces faggotry

TCR. Unless you live in NYC, these people have no experience with working with plaster and lath and the only people looking to retrofit ducts are rich AF.

Use mini-splits or window units. Mini-spilts aren’t possible in many pre-war/landmarked buildings. But the new Midea units that have the noisy parts outside the windows are 180 in terms of noise/cooling and let more light in. https://www.amazon.com/Midea-Conditioner-Remove-SARS-COV-2-Flexibility-Compatible/dp/B0C65HCG94/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602750)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:05 PM
Author: obsidian hell

It's only recently that air conditioning has become something that people automatically expect. It was seen as a luxury or an extra modern convenience in certainly the 90s, maybe later. We may regress to that state of affairs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602624)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:18 PM
Author: Yellow regret roommate



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Aromatic range wagecucks

people in hot climates will give up washing machines, refrigerators, and stoves before they give up A/C.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602700)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:35 PM
Author: Yellow regret roommate

florida and texas aren't even inhabitable without them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602703)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:42 PM
Author: Aromatic range wagecucks

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014498308000132#:~:text=In%201955%2C%20although%20it%20was,a%20central%20air%20conditioning%20system.

"Not surprisingly, there was considerable regional variation in the proportion of homes with air conditioning throughout the 1960–1980 period, but the 1980 census reported that even in the Northeast census region, 45.8% of residences were air conditioned, and in several Texas and Florida metro areas the rate topped 90%."

new york had 15m people in 1950 and 20m today. florida had 3m people in 1950 and 22m today. who the FUCK is living in florida in the summer without A/C?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602710)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:23 PM
Author: Khaki cumskin

Also, a central air system had a typical lifespan of 20 years up until the last decade or so. Now, on average, they seem to last 10 years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602678)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: Yellow regret roommate

yep same with all appliances. my refrigerator and washer and dryer are "smart" and break after a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602697)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:38 PM
Author: Khaki cumskin



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:40 PM
Author: Garnet Hyperventilating Quadroon Faggot Firefighter

(((smart))) indeed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603063)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:30 PM
Author: big patrolman

I grew up in a 1100 sf ft house with window unit AC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602691)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Yellow regret roommate

You are Poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602699)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:04 AM
Author: sapphire wrinkle

it was probably a brooklyn brownstone, he's a Fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603780)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: Umber liquid oxygen

Nah. Upstairs is like $3500 and downstairs is like $4500

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47602721)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:31 PM
Author: Odious yarmulke

I just replaced a high efficiency heating + new AC unit for $11K. It's all his retrofit duct work. Dumb flaem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603039)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:41 PM
Author: Geriatric sanctuary pistol

$35K of this is ductwork. Use SpacePak. It was developed for old house duct retrofit. Small, high velocity ducts. Holes are small and ducts are flexible tubing that is snaked through walls/floors/ceilings/whatever. Had one of these systems in my old lathe and plaster Winnetka house. Much cheaper and less disruptive than putting in big galvanized ducts.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603067)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:43 PM
Author: walnut affirmative action jewess

85% of the private credit market is HVAC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603074)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: Carmine tanning salon ratface

I own a lot of rental property. A furnace for your 2000 sq ft house should cost about $2800 for an 85% efficient unit. It should cost about $8k if you add central air. Everything else is ductwork. Speaking for myself, I live in a 3700 sq ft house built in 1925. My house is made of brick with plaster walls. I have a steam boiler system that we like a lot. No reason to switch to a furnace. Our house was not built with a/c in 1925, so we use window units which are quite cheap and effective. We have 3 window units, but never use more than 2. Our window units are rated for 8000 btu. Each unit lasts about 7 years and then we replace it for $250. It's MUCH cheaper than maintaining central air. The house is 2 stories so we only have to cool the top floor and it'sextremely comfortable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603342)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: Mentally impaired spot hissy fit

I predict a big move away from central air towards window units here the future for America.. because we're entering the period of the big gouging

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603764)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:04 AM
Author: Khaki cumskin

Are these window units still noisy as hell or are they quieter these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603775)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 7:10 AM
Author: Gold Spectacular School Cafeteria

Just think how many Korean whores that will buy the installer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603691)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:07 AM
Author: fuchsia love of her life

that's the "I don't want to deal with retrofitting your plaster walls" price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520441&forum_id=2#47603785)