\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

When did tech optimism fully pivot to tech dystopianism?

Strong arguments can be made that mechanized trench warfare,...
bipolar pistol
  04/24/24
As soon as normies started using the internet and Ruined it ...
Anal idiot
  04/24/24
...
Salmon cerebral kitty cat
  04/24/24
...
Rose provocative base
  04/25/24
...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/25/24
but they were all of deceived, for another network was made,...
Swollen Jew Hissy Fit
  04/25/24
🤯🤯🤯
Lime electric rehab
  04/25/24
...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/25/24
...
snowy nowag
  04/26/24
WOW
Light people who are hurt
  04/26/24
...
Lime electric rehab
  04/26/24
...
Insane Corner
  04/26/24
Is there a single “tech optimist” that didn&rsqu...
tripping tanning salon main people
  04/24/24
2012 introduction of iPhone was it
disturbing topaz community account
  04/24/24
*Reflects on this thread and the proven (gorgeously) insight...
Lime electric rehab
  04/25/24
...
Light people who are hurt
  04/25/24
dont run post-christian “world” cs lewis sees th...
Lime electric rehab
  04/25/24
butlerian jihad: deus vult or there and back again, again:...
Light people who are hurt
  04/25/24
So you’re saying that my recent preoccupation with blo...
Lime electric rehab
  04/25/24
...
Anal idiot
  04/25/24
*AD 1420 Brian Jacques it, tp
Lime electric rehab
  04/25/24
low iq thought
orchid garrison
  04/25/24
Key date: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/17/obam...
stubborn outnumbered police squad orchestra pit
  04/25/24
it flipped on a dime when people convinced themselves trump ...
razzle scourge upon the earth
  04/25/24
once we started seeing the results of the monstrosity we cre...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/25/24
when companies started censoring internet comments on news a...
fuchsia state stain
  04/25/24
i think the biggest thing is the hyperfocus on efficiency an...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/25/24
yup that was definitely when you should write a "med...
orchid garrison
  04/25/24
there was an inflection point somewhat early in the 10's whe...
racy headpube temple
  04/25/24
When the nominally democratic State started compiling unifie...
Bat Shit Crazy Dashing Nursing Home
  04/25/24
In modern terms, swipe apps. Tinder certainly did not cause ...
galvanic mildly autistic church immigrant
  04/25/24
i think of tinder and swipe apps as streamlined facebook, or...
bipolar pistol
  04/26/24
You suck
tripping tanning salon main people
  04/26/24
!!!
Lime electric rehab
  04/26/24
...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
unholy union of “hotornot” and social media&rsqu...
Light people who are hurt
  04/26/24
match.com had to buy and skinsuit okcupid to make sure that ...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
At some point people realized Tech doesn’t actually ma...
sable point
  04/26/24
Yes this was due to “tech”
tripping tanning salon main people
  04/26/24
apparently frontier has now eliminated all non-chat customer...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
if you tried to say this in VC circles you will get labeled ...
effete submissive knife
  04/26/24
Ah Yes The “free market”
tripping tanning salon main people
  04/26/24
what a fucking faggot. the cherry picking shows he knows *ex...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
I think there will be a pretty big split in the coming years...
effete submissive knife
  04/26/24
i agree. especially considering the disconnect between the A...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
im old enough to remember the 80s, when "computers"...
bipolar pistol
  04/26/24
i remember reading the parts in ender's game about how demos...
brass lodge wagecucks
  04/26/24
...
Lime electric rehab
  04/26/24
THIS.
Lime electric rehab
  04/26/24
synth music, stainless steel deloreans, neon colored sunglas...
bipolar pistol
  04/26/24
slowly, then all at once
snowy nowag
  04/26/24
...
Lime electric rehab
  04/26/24
any sort of societal optimism hasn't been justified for at l...
slate bisexual shrine
  04/26/24


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: April 24th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: bipolar pistol

Strong arguments can be made that mechanized trench warfare, then the atom bomb, were points of no return.

But I think it was within the lifespan of AutoAdmit, really, that we passed a pivot point.

Probably introduction of the iPhone.

Its impossible to be optimistic about tech now. It will disfigure humanity in a way that can be called "death". Humans will continue on, but not in any recognizable form. We are alive at the historical moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606745)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 24th, 2024 12:21 PM
Author: Anal idiot

As soon as normies started using the internet and Ruined it

The Internet and Technology was Good and Positively Received by the upper 20% of society. Up until The Normies gained access to the internet via Smartphones

It then became Ruined, and is now a Dystopian Fixture that is despised by both normie and human alike, because it has been warped into The Normie's Image, and is therefore Fallen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606758)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 24th, 2024 12:24 PM
Author: Salmon cerebral kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606768)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 10:19 AM
Author: Rose provocative base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608617)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 1:56 PM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608989)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 4:20 PM
Author: Swollen Jew Hissy Fit

but they were all of deceived, for another network was made, to control all others, and into this network was poured deviance, pedestrian convenience, and the will-to-false-power to dominate all life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609576)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab

🤯🤯🤯

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609607)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 5:08 PM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609745)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: snowy nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611125)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 11:31 AM
Author: Light people who are hurt

WOW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611163)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 12:00 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611235)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 2:28 PM
Author: Insane Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611500)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 24th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: tripping tanning salon main people

Is there a single “tech optimist” that didn’t register as a living abortion to anyone normal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606766)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 24th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: disturbing topaz community account

2012 introduction of iPhone was it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606774)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 9:12 AM
Author: Lime electric rehab

*Reflects on this thread and the proven (gorgeously) insightful OP of Narnian sheepdog descent*

*Reflects on the parallels with The Abolition of Man*

*Feels the overwhelming urge to type “FTGE” on a computer, preferably an internet-connected one*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608498)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 11:59 AM
Author: Light people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608793)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab

dont run post-christian “world” cs lewis sees thru u (tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608838)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 1:51 PM
Author: Light people who are hurt

butlerian jihad: deus vult

or

there and back again, again: RETVRN to the shire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608972)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 4:13 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab

So you’re saying that my recent preoccupation with blonde-haired Zendaya circa Dune 2 + lifelong preoccupation with heroic mice (whether of the Redwallian, Narnian, or Tolkienian variety) was actually my golden retriever psyche urgently trying to tell me something?

*opens checkbook*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609553)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 1:51 PM
Author: Anal idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608973)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab

*AD 1420 Brian Jacques it, tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609555)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: orchid garrison

low iq thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608780)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: stubborn outnumbered police squad orchestra pit

Key date: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/17/obama-iran-twitter

The national security state started working with Twitter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608848)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 1:54 PM
Author: razzle scourge upon the earth

it flipped on a dime when people convinced themselves trump got elected because of social media disinfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608984)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 1:57 PM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

once we started seeing the results of the monstrosity we created

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608996)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 2:00 PM
Author: fuchsia state stain

when companies started censoring internet comments on news articles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609018)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

i think the biggest thing is the hyperfocus on efficiency and optimization.

before tech companies focused on making good products. now they focus on optimizing monetization. it's like how video games turned into gacha games. the goal is to squeeze as much money out of the customer as possible, not create the most useful or entertaining product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609038)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: orchid garrison

yup that was definitely when

you should write a "medium" article on this amazing insight, you retarded faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609262)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: racy headpube temple

there was an inflection point somewhat early in the 10's when online search results started getting crappier. more censored, more restricted to a smaller circle of 'approved' sites, fewer surprising or 'accidental' results (like research papers that universities/institutes forgot to paywall or password-protect), etc.

prior to that point, 'tech' was something which felt in actual practice like a tool that you could pick up and use. after that, it became clear that it was more like a service which could be throttled, degraded, or denied to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609768)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 5:25 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Dashing Nursing Home

When the nominally democratic State started compiling unified records of "social credit" (cutting against the grain of fundamentally democratic notions of parrhesia) and weaponizing it for strictly partisan and political purposes against its perceived enemies, who as citizens, cannot be its enemies without losing its moral authority over the polity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609775)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 25th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: galvanic mildly autistic church immigrant

In modern terms, swipe apps. Tinder certainly did not cause the downfall of Western society but it was the final nail in the coffin. The whole society has been completely degenerate ever since.

If you're interested in a more historical but still modern perspective, Blueprint for Armageddon is Dan Carlin's best work and he talks a lot about how WWI was the first time entire societies went to war and were able to withstand the kind of punishment and horror that was exponential compared to what the world had never seen before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609781)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: bipolar pistol

i think of tinder and swipe apps as streamlined facebook, or even myspace.

the idea behind ms/fb is that your avatar, your online profile, is YOU in a real way. Your existence pixilized, for consumption by strangers.

Swipe apps just streamlined the strangers' ability to instantly judge you WOULD/WOULD NOT.

So now, not only have you reduced your entire life to a profile, it is further reduced to a binary decision: LIVE, BREED, BE WELCOMED, BE HOT, BE LOVED vs. DIE LOSER PIECE OF SHIT

About one second is spent on the decision, and it is made by thousands and thousands of strangers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610874)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 9:35 AM
Author: tripping tanning salon main people

You suck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610884)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 9:37 AM
Author: Lime electric rehab

!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610887)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611039)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: Light people who are hurt

unholy union of “hotornot” and social media’s 2d simulacrum of a human’s existence, painted over irl until suffocation of organic life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611063)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:43 AM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

match.com had to buy and skinsuit okcupid to make sure that the tinderification of dating had no opposition. it's absolutely demonic.

over 50% of couples now meet online. primarily from a fuckapp where you made a decision in .2 seconds based solely on a picture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611079)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: sable point

At some point people realized Tech doesn’t actually make anything better. Things are actually harder now than it used to be. When my grandmother died 25 years ago, it took a couple days to go the bank, call the city, call the cable company, etc., and close everything out. My dad died a few months ago and it took weeks fighting with Filipinos and Indians to close out his Amazon, Internet, etc. (and it’s still not right).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610956)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:21 AM
Author: tripping tanning salon main people

Yes this was due to “tech”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611011)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:47 AM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

apparently frontier has now eliminated all non-chat customer service.

people dismissing this is "well it's a low cost carrier" haven't been paying attending the the trends. as you point out, even ordinary consumer services are going down this route. pretty soon everything will go through an AI chatbot and you'll be *thrilled* to finally get some ESL pakistani on the chat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611086)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:49 AM
Author: effete submissive knife

if you tried to say this in VC circles you will get labeled a "doomer regulationist" or something along those lines. e.g. stuff like this:

https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1780409874356306143

where someone cherry picks a singular statistic that doesn't look *as bad* (and it's still been trending up the past decade!) as the other countless "wtf happene in 2012!" charts and mocks any attempt at arguing the free market does not always guide society to an optimal outcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611093)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: tripping tanning salon main people

Ah

Yes

The “free market”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611112)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 10:56 AM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

what a fucking faggot. the cherry picking shows he knows *exactly* what he's doing too.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/451-500/db464-fig3.png

people 15-19 don't realize how fucked the sceenification of the world is. when you're going to in-person school to socialize and hanging with your friends gaming or whatever at night it doesn't seem so bad. probably similar to how most of us grew up. it's not until after college and most people aren't being compelled to socialize irl that it becomes clear how demonic it is.

gee, i wonder why he didn't include 15-24 or 25-44 in his analysis?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611118)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: effete submissive knife

I think there will be a pretty big split in the coming years between the Thiel-type conservatives and, well, most everyone else. now that the tide has turned on woke nonesense they're back to emphasizing their core "eat your free markets and enjoy Growth like the Lord Rand Prophesied. America is the Best Economy in the World and Europe is Poor, thus you are Happier, Goy" philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611259)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 2:23 PM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

i agree. especially considering the disconnect between the ALMIGHTY NUMBERS not aligning with the real economy.

it's funny that at the beginning of biden's campaign the message was "the economy is better than ever goy, what are you talking about?" of course that message didn't resonate well with zoomers and millenials that are struggling and so depressed because they see little hope in things changing that they're killing themselves at unprecedented rates. but the best i've seen them come up with is "uh, well, sure there's still a lot of work to do... but we're gonna do it!"

it's anyone's guess how long the "we're walking on it" messaging will work when there is no gameplan, let alone significant steps taken. i suppose that's why they're doubling down on orange man bad since they have no accomplishments to tout. and hey, it might work for some time, they've been going with the "don't worry goy, hollowing out american industry and QOL is a good thing" for decades now and it seems like most people are only *starting* to wake up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611484)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: bipolar pistol

im old enough to remember the 80s, when "computers" and space shuttles and such still made the future seem amazing. I remember going to FutureWorld at the Magic Kingdom and looking at the rockety architecture and thinking "when Im an adult I will live in a place like that". I remember the character Mallorie on "Family Ties" dancing around celebrating "Its 1984!". I remember the see-through Swatch watches and everyone felt they were so futuristic and cool. Clear watches!

Maybe it was the mist of childhood, but there still really was tech utopianism.

I dont remember that from the 90s, although coming online in the late 90s was titillating and we all searched for boobs.

But generally the 90s didnt feel very future-focused and the vibe was kind of post apocalyptic at Lollapalooza etc. People dressed tribal and aborigene, not futurist. Tattoos and combat boots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611137)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: brass lodge wagecucks

i remember reading the parts in ender's game about how demosthenes and locke's debates and everyone having free and open access to information, and being like "wow, this is going to be what it's like on the internet!"

of course i thought that in reality people would be too smart to be manipulated when all information is freely and instantly available. whoops!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611150)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 12:03 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611242)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 11:59 AM
Author: Lime electric rehab

THIS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611233)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 1:28 PM
Author: bipolar pistol

synth music, stainless steel deloreans, neon colored sunglasses, the concorde, rocky beating drago, the future's so bright i gotta wear my shades

earth was in the rear view mirror and we were airborne....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611370)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: snowy nowag

slowly, then all at once

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611183)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Lime electric rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611241)



Reply Favorite

Date: April 26th, 2024 2:58 PM
Author: slate bisexual shrine

any sort of societal optimism hasn't been justified for at least 2000 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611559)