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Zelenskyy wants Ukraine to be ‘a big Israel.’ Here’s a road map.

Speaking to reporters this week, Ukrainian President Volodym...
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  04/30/24
Wild Mr. "Shapiro" doesnt mention that Zelenskyy i...
deranged aquamarine french chef feces
  04/30/24
It doesn't matter. The country of Ukraine was supposed to re...
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  04/30/24
*Desantis leans into mic*
honey-headed cuck
  04/30/24
In a worst case scenario where the US has to accept Jewish r...
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  04/30/24
You must be completely retarded
fuchsia glittery really tough guy
  04/30/24
You're not saying I'm wrong
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  05/01/24
yeah that sounds like it would be a brand new development lo...
shivering nursing home
  04/30/24
Who the fuck are you? Some pumo who just picked a random mo...
frozen twinkling trump supporter
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white disturbing voyeur useless brakes
  05/01/24
Yeah, nothing like the millions of Middle Eastern, African a...
Smoky hot point
  05/01/24
Yeah, they weren't Russian. You noticed.
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  05/01/24
So, exactly what happened with the original 20th century Jew...
white disturbing voyeur useless brakes
  05/01/24
What the fuck are you talking about?
frozen twinkling trump supporter
  05/01/24
I'm sorry, what now? What in the fuck are you talking about?...
Multi-colored duck-like piazza
  05/01/24
the ukraine war is to empty out the country to prepare the w...
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Indecent cuckoldry
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If there’s any single principle that animates Israel&r...
Deep dull casino half-breed
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"do none of the work, take all the credit" sounds ...
irradiated bearded toaster
  04/30/24
people are waking up. it's comical that Jews refuse to grasp...
Lilac corn cake corner
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"people"
Alcoholic crimson nibblets
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this concept has been discussed since the beginning of the w...
Rough-skinned gold stage
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jews should be hunted to the point of complete extermination
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“I’m confident that our security will be the num...
Flushed laughsome dog poop crackhouse
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Cr why didn’t he use the total normal 9-year timefr...
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Why did he have to give their “security” a timel...
Flushed laughsome dog poop crackhouse
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(autistic retard)
Rough-skinned gold stage
  05/01/24
The budgets for the Ukraine shit run in 2-year cycles now. T...
frozen twinkling trump supporter
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Ukraine has decided that peace and security can only come wh...
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coiffed domesticated mexican dilemma
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Spectacular geriatric legal warrant
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Things seem to be progressing according to plan https://t...
Excitant sanctuary friendly grandma
  05/01/24
Yep. All they'll need is Russian passports.
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Date: April 30th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

Speaking to reporters this week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy described the future he sees for his country in unusual terms: as “a big Israel.”

Gone, he said, are hopes for “an absolutely liberal” state—replaced by the likely reality of armed defense forces patrolling movie theaters and supermarkets. “I’m confident that our security will be the number-one issue over the next ten years,” Zelenskyy added.

With Russian forces having withdrawn from around Kyiv, suggesting that Ukraine successfully repulsed the first phase of the Kremlin’s invasion, the time is right for Zelenskyy to contemplate how to prepare for the next—and potentially much longer—phase of this conflict.

But what does he mean by “a big Israel”? With a population more than four times smaller, and vastly less territory, the Jewish state might not seem like the most fitting comparison. Yet consider the regional security threats it faces, as well as its highly mobilized population: The two embattled countries share more than you might think.

So if Zelenskyy really does have Israel in mind as a model for Ukraine, here are some of the key features he might consider for adoption (some of which are already applicable today):

Security first: Every Israeli government promises, first and foremost, that it will deliver security—and knows it will be judged on this pledge. Ordinary citizens, not just politicians, pay close attention to security threats—both from across borders and from internal sources— and much of the public chooses who to elect by that metric alone.

The whole population plays a role: The Israeli model goes further than Zelenskyy’s vision of security services deployed to civilian spaces: Most young Israeli adults serve in the military, and many are employed in security-related professions following their service. A common purpose unites the citizenry, making them ready to endure shared sacrifice. Civilians recognize their responsibility to follow security protocols and contribute to the cause. Some even arm themselves (though under strict supervision) to do so. The widespread mobilization of Ukrainian society in collective defense suggests that the country has this potential. In his comments, Zelenskyy reflected this reality when he said security would “come from the strength of every house, every building, every person.”

Self-defense is the only way: If there’s any single principle that animates Israel’s security doctrine, it’s that Israel will defend itself, by itself—and rely on no other country to fight its battles. The tragedies of Jewish history have embedded that lesson deep in the nation’s soul. Ukraine’s own trauma, forced to fight alone against a larger aggressor, reinforces a similar conclusion: Don’t depend on the guarantees of others.

But maintain active defense partnerships: Self-defense doesn’t mean total isolation. Israel maintains active defense partnerships, chiefly with the United States, which provides generous military assistance, but also with other nations with whom it shares intelligence, technology, and training. While Ukraine will probably not join NATO any time soon, it can deepen security partnerships with Alliance members and receive aid, weaponry, intelligence, and training to bolster its self-defense.

Intelligence dominance: From its earliest days, Israel has invested deeply in its intelligence capabilities to ensure that it has the means to detect and deter its enemies—and, when needed, act proactively to strike them. Ukraine will need to upgrade its intelligence services to compete against Russian capabilities and ensure that it’s prepared to prevent and repulse Russian attacks.

Technology is key: Although it relies on US assistance, Israel also chooses homegrown technology solutions for many of its greatest challenges. Multi-layer rocket and missile defenses, counter-drone systems, and tunnel detection technology are just recent examples. Ukraine—already home to bright technological minds—will know what threats it faces more than any partner; investing in its own solutions will allow it to be most responsive and adapt to new threats.

Build an innovation ecosystem: The training many Israelis receive in high-tech innovation in the military contributes to a civilian innovation ecosystem, which in turn promotes the development of new security technologies. Ukraine has no lack of talented coders and engineers (many of whom are employed by Israeli startups). Encouraging the free flow of talent and ideas between the civilian and security innovation spaces will pay long-term security and economic dividends.

Maintain democratic institutions: Israel continues to face the challenge of ending its conflict with the Palestinians in ways that ensure both its security and the Palestinians’ self-determination. But within Israel itself, a constant focus on security hasn’t prevented the upholding of core democratic institutions and practices. Zelenskyy seems aware of this tension, which will require constant maintenance, but also that democracy is a prerequisite: “An authoritarian state is impossible in Ukraine,” he said.

Like Israel in its early wars, Ukraine appears to have fended off an acute existential threat. But the war is far from over. By adapting their country’s mindset to mirror aspects of Israel’s approach to chronic security challenges, Ukrainian officials can tackle critical national-security challenges with confidence and build a similarly resilient state.

Daniel Shapiro is a distinguished fellow at the Atlantic Council and a former US ambassador to Israel.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/zelenskyy-wants-ukraine-to-be-a-big-israel-heres-a-road-map/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622307)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: deranged aquamarine french chef feces

Wild Mr. "Shapiro" doesnt mention that Zelenskyy is himself Jewish in this long piece about the desire to transform Ukraine into Israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622313)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

It doesn't matter. The country of Ukraine was supposed to remain safe for jews no matter what. This was supposed to be their getaway in case SHTF in the middle east. Right now where else can they go besides RUSSIA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622325)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: honey-headed cuck

*Desantis leans into mic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622329)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

In a worst case scenario where the US has to accept Jewish refugees from the middle east, that's already going to include a fuckload of people who were born in Russia or have family in Russia. All of them will be potential spies with no reason to be loyal to the USA, especially if we're talking about a scenario where the USA did nothing to make it safe for them to live in Israel. We've never had a refugee population like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622341)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: fuchsia glittery really tough guy

You must be completely retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623219)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 1:14 AM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

You're not saying I'm wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623830)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:35 PM
Author: shivering nursing home

yeah that sounds like it would be a brand new development lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623460)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 1:14 AM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

Who the fuck are you? Some pumo who just picked a random moniker 5 minutes ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623834)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:51 PM
Author: white disturbing voyeur useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625757)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:52 AM
Author: Smoky hot point

Yeah, nothing like the millions of Middle Eastern, African and South-East Asian refugees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624911)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

Yeah, they weren't Russian. You noticed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625766)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:51 PM
Author: white disturbing voyeur useless brakes

So, exactly what happened with the original 20th century Jewish refugees then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625754)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

What the fuck are you talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625763)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:21 AM
Author: Multi-colored duck-like piazza

I'm sorry, what now? What in the fuck are you talking about? Western ukraine is one of the most antisemitic places on earth. They have swastikas on their banners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624615)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: Boyish yellow cruise ship coffee pot

the ukraine war is to empty out the country to prepare the way for new khazaria

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47622333)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: Indecent cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623421)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 8:58 PM
Author: Deep dull casino half-breed

If there’s any single principle that animates Israel’s security doctrine, it’s that Israel will defend itself, by itself—and rely on no other country to fight its battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623238)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:34 PM
Author: irradiated bearded toaster

"do none of the work, take all the credit" sounds pretty jewish to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623455)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:43 PM
Author: Lilac corn cake corner

people are waking up. it's comical that Jews refuse to grasp this.

10 Jews will die for every genocided Ukrainian or white Euro. you fucking people are revolting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623480)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:49 AM
Author: Alcoholic crimson nibblets

"people"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624197)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:48 PM
Author: Rough-skinned gold stage

this concept has been discussed since the beginning of the war and probably before that

both countries have genocidal lunatics as neighbors who can launch missiles and attacks for many years to come

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47623486)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:54 AM
Author: Obsidian selfie

jews should be hunted to the point of complete extermination

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624207)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:18 AM
Author: coiffed domesticated mexican dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624607)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: charismatic violet menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624766)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:00 AM
Author: Flushed laughsome dog poop crackhouse

“I’m confident that our security will be the number-one issue over the next ten years,” Zelenskyy added.”

Weird how he picked that ten year timeline that just happens to coincide with how our budgets are forecast. Haha so random.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624795)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:12 AM
Author: Rough-skinned gold stage

Cr

why didn’t he use the total normal 9-year timeframe. or maybe a baker’s dozen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624832)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:14 AM
Author: Flushed laughsome dog poop crackhouse

Why did he have to give their “security” a timeline at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624836)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: Rough-skinned gold stage

(autistic retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624877)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 4:27 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

The budgets for the Ukraine shit run in 2-year cycles now. The latest aid package runs out after 1 year but they couldn't have stretched it past 2 years for arcane conlaw reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625896)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: Racy National Therapy

Ukraine has decided that peace and security can only come when every Ukrainian is dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624841)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:20 AM
Author: coiffed domesticated mexican dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47624851)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:11 PM
Author: Spectacular geriatric legal warrant

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625550)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:35 PM
Author: Excitant sanctuary friendly grandma

Things seem to be progressing according to plan

https://twitter.com/MariaAstrology/status/1781778556772639173

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625653)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 3:36 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

Yep. All they'll need is Russian passports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625667)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: frozen twinkling trump supporter

ljl@ people who don't understand US immigration policy. u ever met a Vietnamese-American from North Vietnam? No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523257&forum_id=2#47625800)