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Fatal flaw in Trump hush money trial

The alleged cover-up of payments didn't impact the 2016 elec...
Ivory geriatric locus
  05/06/24
lmao, they're investigating this but not the feds-big tech-M...
sadistic forum bbw
  05/06/24
I'm not following, but could he have meant the cover up was ...
azure hospital
  05/06/24
Paying the whores is not a crime. The legal argument is tha...
Ivory geriatric locus
  05/06/24
Wow they'll never conduct an egregiously bad faith banana re...
Fighting stirring tank native
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Coral jap doctorate
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spectacular round eye
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Sable multi-colored regret candlestick maker
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cracking twisted depressive degenerate
  05/06/24
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glassy exhilarant affirmative action parlor
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Hyperventilating theater stage son of senegal
  05/06/24
why are you trying to logic any of it
Coral jap doctorate
  05/06/24
Not following the trial too closely but I hope Trump has com...
Ivory geriatric locus
  05/06/24
yeah, a manhattan jury wants to convict him for orange man b...
Coral jap doctorate
  05/06/24
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Fighting stirring tank native
  05/06/24
true, however there is a juror who only gets news from fox a...
cracking twisted depressive degenerate
  05/06/24
there was an argument that the "truth social" juro...
Coral jap doctorate
  05/06/24
scotus wouldn't consider, i was talking state supreme. despi...
cracking twisted depressive degenerate
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Vigorous personal credit line really tough guy
  05/06/24
§175.10 says "intent to commit another crime or to...
cracking twisted depressive degenerate
  05/06/24
TYFT
Ivory geriatric locus
  05/06/24
Despite the taped conversation, on August 23, in a Fox News ...
cracking twisted depressive degenerate
  05/06/24
Apparently Michael Cohen is on tape telling Trump how he is ...
Ivory geriatric locus
  05/06/24
most people are far less "orange man bad" when you...
cracking twisted depressive degenerate
  05/06/24
*juror's eyes glaze over, repeatedly slams GUILTY buzzer*
Hyperventilating theater stage son of senegal
  05/06/24


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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:09 PM
Author: Ivory geriatric locus

The alleged cover-up of payments didn't impact the 2016 election. Had Trump recorded the payment as a campaign contribution it would have been reported after the election.

DA keeps arguing that he swung an election through this "cover-up" but the argument makes no sense because of the timing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639385)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: sadistic forum bbw

lmao, they're investigating this but not the feds-big tech-MSM collusion to kill and censor the NY Post's Hunter Biden laptop story, which polls show did in fact impact the election?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639394)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:19 PM
Author: azure hospital

I'm not following, but could he have meant the cover up was by paying the whores so they kept their mouth's shut before the election?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639444)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Ivory geriatric locus

Paying the whores is not a crime. The legal argument is that when he paid the whores he was making a campaign contribution (which is also not a crime) but he failed to report it (the alleged underlying felony) by using fraudulent business records (which is a NY misdemeanor elevated to a felony because it was to coverup another crime). Yes this is nuanced but the DA needs to allege a crime and then tell a story to convince a jury. The story that this crime swung the election cannot be true because the "crime" occurred well after the election (even if the crime is the failure to report -- which again isn't what the charge is here).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639472)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: Fighting stirring tank native

Wow they'll never conduct an egregiously bad faith banana republic show trial for their political enemies now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639395)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: Coral jap doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639401)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:12 PM
Author: spectacular round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639411)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:14 PM
Author: Sable multi-colored regret candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639420)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639435)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: glassy exhilarant affirmative action parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639552)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:09 PM
Author: Hyperventilating theater stage son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639595)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:12 PM
Author: Coral jap doctorate

why are you trying to logic any of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639403)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:20 PM
Author: Ivory geriatric locus

Not following the trial too closely but I hope Trump has competent lawyers that are pointing out these flaws.

Of course you are probably right, a Manhattan jury that hates Trump doesn't care what he is charged with...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639449)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Coral jap doctorate

yeah, a manhattan jury wants to convict him for orange man bad

trying to apply logic to it is doing a disservice by providing legitimacy to the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639457)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:25 PM
Author: Fighting stirring tank native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639461)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:33 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate

true, however there is a juror who only gets news from fox and one who only gets it from truth, so although the system is broken and illegitimate, good chance it works in trump's favor.

also even in new york i don't see how a conviction would last on appeal. i don't see these questions weren't certified for interlocutory appeal considering the magnitude of this case and the perception that it's kangaroo court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639490)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: Coral jap doctorate

there was an argument that the "truth social" juror was a shitlib in drag (something you're familiar with)

it's a state case so would the U.S. supreme court even consider it? the state supreme court is pretty shitlib afaik

anyway it might be irrelevant, orange retard cucked on the $90 billion "foreign aid" bill so globohomo might deem him skinsuited enough (after the COVID fraud too) to be put back in the seat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639499)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate

scotus wouldn't consider, i was talking state supreme. despite how shitlib it may be there is still a limit. look at how only colorado bought the retarded insurrection = djt is disqualified argument. that was presented to many states. look at how many scotus opinions are 9-0 on political issues. not every shitlib is completely untethered.

trump is 10000x better than biden simply because of who he will be appointing to actually run the government and judicial appointments. but yeah, the people who lived through his first term that think he'll be any different are delusional.

lynn is probably one of the biggest reptiles here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639545)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:25 PM
Author: Vigorous personal credit line really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639460)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:30 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate

§175.10 says "intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." so if influencing elections with a catch and kill scheme is illegal, then falsifying business records to conceal the crime after the fact would be illegal.

of course, influencing an election through a catch-and-kill scheme is not illegal. and even if it was, if you think trump was in the weeds on how a couple hundred grand was recorded in january 2017 you're fucking bonkers.

even if these records were falsified (they weren't), and even if a catch-and-kill scheme to influence an election is illegal (it's not), and even if these records were falsified specifically to conceal that illegal activity (they weren't), there's no way the fucking trump was aware of how they were being recorded when he was about to be inaugurated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639475)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:31 PM
Author: Ivory geriatric locus

TYFT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639480)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:46 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate

Despite the taped conversation, on August 23, in a Fox News interview Trump stated that he was not aware of the hush-money payments until "later on": "Later on I knew. Later on. What he did—and they weren't taken out of the campaign finance, that's the big thing." He added: "In fact, my first question when I heard about it was, did they come out of the campaign, because that could be a little dicey. And they didn't come out of the campaign and that's big. But they weren't ... that's not even a campaign violation."[89] According to U.S. election rules, any payments intended to influence an election vote must be reported, and the payments have questions about campaign-finance ethics.[77][85]

why the fuck would trump admit on tape that he was happy that they were not taken out of campaign finance if he took it out of trump funds specifically to hide it?!

also, why the fuck would it have even mattered? if trump transferred his money to his campaign fund it would have been recorded the same way. they're quibbling over whether "legal services" was falsifying? paying for NDAs to avoid disclosing legal conduct is legal!!! what, trump had to write STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY on his campaign spending report? give me a fucking break. it would have been reported as "legal services" regardless. and, again, TRUMP ISN'T FUCKING DIRECTING HOW HIS ACCOUNTING IS DONE!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639537)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:09 PM
Author: Ivory geriatric locus

Apparently Michael Cohen is on tape telling Trump how he is going to structure the payments and Trump was like IDGAF and cut him off because it didn't matter to Trump. All Trump cared about was how much he had to pay.

It would be something if the jury acquits (although again doubtful given the pool) and the backlash is what leads Trump to a landslide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639594)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:28 PM
Author: cracking twisted depressive degenerate

most people are far less "orange man bad" when you get them alone in a room. especially when they've been made to sit silent and listen to this shit for weeks. any person who isn't *completely* unsalvageable would vote to acquit, even if they fucking hate trump. it's going to be something.

also, it's funny how libs are simultaneously like "trump is an impulsive retard" and "trump is in the weeds with his accounting." you've gotta be nuts if you think trump gave two shits about how this was recorded, or even appreciated the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639650)



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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:17 PM
Author: Hyperventilating theater stage son of senegal

*juror's eyes glaze over, repeatedly slams GUILTY buzzer*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639622)