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Fatal flaw in Trump hush money trial
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:09 PM Author: house-broken mad-dog skullcap The alleged cover-up of payments didn't impact the 2016 election. Had Trump recorded the payment as a campaign contribution it would have been reported after the election.
DA keeps arguing that he swung an election through this "cover-up" but the argument makes no sense because of the timing. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: brilliant stead lmao, they're investigating this but not the feds-big tech-MSM collusion to kill and censor the NY Post's Hunter Biden laptop story, which polls show did in fact impact the election? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639394) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:19 PM Author: Fragrant Disrespectful Stage Internal Respiration I'm not following, but could he have meant the cover up was by paying the whores so they kept their mouth's shut before the election? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639444) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:29 PM Author: house-broken mad-dog skullcap Paying the whores is not a crime. The legal argument is that when he paid the whores he was making a campaign contribution (which is also not a crime) but he failed to report it (the alleged underlying felony) by using fraudulent business records (which is a NY misdemeanor elevated to a felony because it was to coverup another crime). Yes this is nuanced but the DA needs to allege a crime and then tell a story to convince a jury. The story that this crime swung the election cannot be true because the "crime" occurred well after the election (even if the crime is the failure to report -- which again isn't what the charge is here). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639472) |
Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: Disturbing Crystalline Therapy Center Wow they'll never conduct an egregiously bad faith banana republic show trial for their political enemies now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639395) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: Snowy friendly grandma stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639401) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: Peach razzle property dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639411) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:14 PM Author: mildly autistic state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639420) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:17 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639435) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: Chartreuse senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639552) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:09 PM Author: Topaz appetizing office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639595) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: Snowy friendly grandma stock car why are you trying to logic any of it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639403) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:20 PM Author: house-broken mad-dog skullcap Not following the trial too closely but I hope Trump has competent lawyers that are pointing out these flaws.
Of course you are probably right, a Manhattan jury that hates Trump doesn't care what he is charged with... |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:23 PM Author: Snowy friendly grandma stock car yeah, a manhattan jury wants to convict him for orange man bad
trying to apply logic to it is doing a disservice by providing legitimacy to the process |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:25 PM Author: Disturbing Crystalline Therapy Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639461) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler true, however there is a juror who only gets news from fox and one who only gets it from truth, so although the system is broken and illegitimate, good chance it works in trump's favor.
also even in new york i don't see how a conviction would last on appeal. i don't see these questions weren't certified for interlocutory appeal considering the magnitude of this case and the perception that it's kangaroo court. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:35 PM Author: Snowy friendly grandma stock car there was an argument that the "truth social" juror was a shitlib in drag (something you're familiar with)
it's a state case so would the U.S. supreme court even consider it? the state supreme court is pretty shitlib afaik
anyway it might be irrelevant, orange retard cucked on the $90 billion "foreign aid" bill so globohomo might deem him skinsuited enough (after the COVID fraud too) to be put back in the seat |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:49 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler scotus wouldn't consider, i was talking state supreme. despite how shitlib it may be there is still a limit. look at how only colorado bought the retarded insurrection = djt is disqualified argument. that was presented to many states. look at how many scotus opinions are 9-0 on political issues. not every shitlib is completely untethered.
trump is 10000x better than biden simply because of who he will be appointing to actually run the government and judicial appointments. but yeah, the people who lived through his first term that think he'll be any different are delusional.
lynn is probably one of the biggest reptiles here. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:25 PM Author: Frisky impressive fat ankles immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639460) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:30 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler §175.10 says "intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." so if influencing elections with a catch and kill scheme is illegal, then falsifying business records to conceal the crime after the fact would be illegal.
of course, influencing an election through a catch-and-kill scheme is not illegal. and even if it was, if you think trump was in the weeds on how a couple hundred grand was recorded in january 2017 you're fucking bonkers.
even if these records were falsified (they weren't), and even if a catch-and-kill scheme to influence an election is illegal (it's not), and even if these records were falsified specifically to conceal that illegal activity (they weren't), there's no way the fucking trump was aware of how they were being recorded when he was about to be inaugurated. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: house-broken mad-dog skullcap TYFT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639480) |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 1:46 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler Despite the taped conversation, on August 23, in a Fox News interview Trump stated that he was not aware of the hush-money payments until "later on": "Later on I knew. Later on. What he did—and they weren't taken out of the campaign finance, that's the big thing." He added: "In fact, my first question when I heard about it was, did they come out of the campaign, because that could be a little dicey. And they didn't come out of the campaign and that's big. But they weren't ... that's not even a campaign violation."[89] According to U.S. election rules, any payments intended to influence an election vote must be reported, and the payments have questions about campaign-finance ethics.[77][85]
why the fuck would trump admit on tape that he was happy that they were not taken out of campaign finance if he took it out of trump funds specifically to hide it?!
also, why the fuck would it have even mattered? if trump transferred his money to his campaign fund it would have been recorded the same way. they're quibbling over whether "legal services" was falsifying? paying for NDAs to avoid disclosing legal conduct is legal!!! what, trump had to write STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY on his campaign spending report? give me a fucking break. it would have been reported as "legal services" regardless. and, again, TRUMP ISN'T FUCKING DIRECTING HOW HIS ACCOUNTING IS DONE!!! |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:09 PM Author: house-broken mad-dog skullcap Apparently Michael Cohen is on tape telling Trump how he is going to structure the payments and Trump was like IDGAF and cut him off because it didn't matter to Trump. All Trump cared about was how much he had to pay.
It would be something if the jury acquits (although again doubtful given the pool) and the backlash is what leads Trump to a landslide. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: Electric Deer Antler most people are far less "orange man bad" when you get them alone in a room. especially when they've been made to sit silent and listen to this shit for weeks. any person who isn't *completely* unsalvageable would vote to acquit, even if they fucking hate trump. it's going to be something.
also, it's funny how libs are simultaneously like "trump is an impulsive retard" and "trump is in the weeds with his accounting." you've gotta be nuts if you think trump gave two shits about how this was recorded, or even appreciated the difference. |
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Date: May 6th, 2024 2:17 PM Author: Topaz appetizing office *juror's eyes glaze over, repeatedly slams GUILTY buzzer* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5525687&forum_id=2#47639622) |