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US General: new technology drastically favors the defense in warfare - link

The Ukraine war certainly bears this out: https://www.def...
tantric locus
  05/09/24
in the future a 100 dollar drone is better than a million do...
black bateful gaping becky
  05/09/24
It's pathetic seeing how much our military is ignoring this....
tantric locus
  05/09/24
Don't mistake GWOT shenanigans for real capacities. In a rea...
free-loading filthpig
  05/09/24
Ok, assume it's a real war with China and the Houthis are th...
tantric locus
  05/09/24
In that scenario the houthi drones don't even take off becau...
free-loading filthpig
  05/09/24
So we have EW capabilities to do that now but we're not usin...
tantric locus
  05/09/24
Do you know that we have 0000s of combat aircraft that we al...
free-loading filthpig
  05/09/24
I'll let you have the last word after this since this is get...
tantric locus
  05/09/24
There is a lot of anti-drone EW It is why there are no Ha...
free-loading filthpig
  05/09/24
lol you got the tranny pumo MAF
awkward vengeful home
  05/09/24
yes just like in a real war there are no longer any taliban ...
Up-to-no-good office newt
  05/09/24
the spending money part is 99% of the point
salmon thriller property cumskin
  05/09/24
They've performed well in the Red Sea and in Iran's big atta...
wine sweet tailpipe keepsake machete
  05/09/24
They drained our ships' SAM supplies. That's a huge accompli...
tantric locus
  05/09/24
sort of like 300 years ago when revolutionaries just sniped ...
salmon thriller property cumskin
  05/09/24
(benjamin martin)
beady-eyed deranged reading party
  05/09/24
Hot take incoming! Oh what a military genius! (guy from 3,00...
Aromatic hell weed whacker
  05/09/24
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Outnumbered crotch liquid oxygen
  05/09/24
“If it’s an Army formation, their big advantage...
Lascivious State
  05/09/24
US Generals can't win wars. Why even bother with what they ...
awkward vengeful home
  05/09/24
Lol you retards are always confusing nation building with wa...
painfully honest pale stain quadroon
  05/10/24
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appetizing giraffe psychic
  05/10/24
You’re both gay retarded jews
cerise rough-skinned point
  05/10/24
Nuclear missiles exist and this retard general is plotting o...
amber alcoholic gaming laptop
  05/09/24


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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:40 PM
Author: tantric locus

The Ukraine war certainly bears this out:

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2024/05/new-tech-means-defense-outweighs-offense-says-army-futures-command-chief/396422/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648754)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:46 PM
Author: black bateful gaping becky

in the future a 100 dollar drone is better than a million dollar tank and a 25 cent shotgun round is probably the best defense, the world is weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648770)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: tantric locus

It's pathetic seeing how much our military is ignoring this. Just do spend a billion dollars - literally - in the Red Sea shooting down cheap drones. And once we run out of SAMS all our expensive F-35s parked on carrier decks will be sitting ducks for freaking Houthis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648786)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:57 PM
Author: free-loading filthpig

Don't mistake GWOT shenanigans for real capacities. In a real war there would be no "Houthis" any more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648799)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: tantric locus

Ok, assume it's a real war with China and the Houthis are their allies (as they likely would be if it happened today.) We want to send our carrier groups through the Red Sea. The Houthis send a shitton of drones at our ships just like they are doing now, and we are forced to use hundreds of SAMs to shoot them down, just like we are doing now.

So we exit the Red Sea and our ships no longer have nearly enough SAMs to fight the Chinese. How will the Houthis be wished out of existence in that scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648900)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: free-loading filthpig

In that scenario the houthi drones don't even take off because their shitty peninsula is blanketed in EW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648920)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:47 PM
Author: tantric locus

So we have EW capabilities to do that now but we're not using them because we like wasting a billion dollars on SAMs?

Why aren't we sharing this amazing technology with Ukraine? They are still having to spend SAMs on shooting down Shahed drones.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648939)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: free-loading filthpig

Do you know that we have 0000s of combat aircraft that we also aren't sharing with Ukraine, including hundreds that do EW stuff? We also have 0000s of cruise missiles, some of which also do EW stuff.

You may be surprised to learn that what was shared with Ukraine was primitive cold war surplus with the exception of a pair of Patriot systems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648973)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: tantric locus

I'll let you have the last word after this since this is getting a bit tiresome, but every time we have a capability that Ukraine wants they scream bloody murder for it. There has not been a peep from them about asking for anti-drone EW capability from the US because it DOES NOT EXIST. In fact, the Russians are well ahead of us on EW, and yet Ukraine still destroys most of its equipment with drones.

Now I'm sure you have a reason that you are totally convinced about as to how the US military has a secret weapon against drones that we didn't use against the Houthis and if that makes you feel better then carry on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649033)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:22 PM
Author: free-loading filthpig

There is a lot of anti-drone EW

It is why there are no Hamas drone videos out of Gaza after day 1 of the war

This report has an extensive discussion of anti-drone EW - https://static.rusi.org/403-SR-Russian-Tactics-web-final.pdf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649396)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:31 PM
Author: awkward vengeful home

lol you got the tranny pumo MAF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649408)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good office newt

yes just like in a real war there are no longer any taliban in afghanistan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648922)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: salmon thriller property cumskin

the spending money part is 99% of the point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648804)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:21 PM
Author: wine sweet tailpipe keepsake machete

They've performed well in the Red Sea and in Iran's big attack on Israel. They definitely need a range of solutions (from cheap to sophisticated) to deal with drones. I don't think the Houthis or Iran accomplished much despite us being extremely restrained in any strikes. Missile defense gets a bad rap but it's basically saved Israel over the past 20 years and allowed most UKR cities to function relatively normal despite being bombarded by the world's second largest stockpile of missiles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648865)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:35 PM
Author: tantric locus

They drained our ships' SAM supplies. That's a huge accomplishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648904)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: salmon thriller property cumskin

sort of like 300 years ago when revolutionaries just sniped redcoats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648803)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: beady-eyed deranged reading party

(benjamin martin)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47648907)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 6:50 PM
Author: Aromatic hell weed whacker

Hot take incoming! Oh what a military genius! (guy from 3,000 years ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649218)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 9:00 PM
Author: Outnumbered crotch liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649469)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:26 PM
Author: Lascivious State

“If it’s an Army formation, their big advantage is going to be fires: rockets, cannons, joint fires, attack helicopters"

I like how he just casually drops in attack helicopters at the end. Apaches just blasting you forever with every kind of weapon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649403)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 8:30 PM
Author: awkward vengeful home

US Generals can't win wars. Why even bother with what they have to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649406)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: painfully honest pale stain quadroon

Lol you retards are always confusing nation building with warfare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650512)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: appetizing giraffe psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650519)



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Date: May 10th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: cerise rough-skinned point

You’re both gay retarded jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47650532)



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Date: May 9th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: amber alcoholic gaming laptop

Nuclear missiles exist and this retard general is plotting out extensive conventional warfare strategies as if it hasn't all been irrelevant for 80 years other than scuffles with third world countries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526899&forum_id=2#47649548)