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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Maize mischievous stage regret
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
low-t narrow-minded hairy legs
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Zombie-like Nursing Home Factory Reset Button
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
low-t narrow-minded hairy legs
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
low-t narrow-minded hairy legs
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
racy legend
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Maize mischievous stage regret

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: bistre titillating piazza

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: bistre titillating piazza

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: bistre titillating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: low-t narrow-minded hairy legs

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Zombie-like Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: low-t narrow-minded hairy legs

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Zombie-like Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: low-t narrow-minded hairy legs

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: shimmering electric locus

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Spruce Bearded Coffee Pot Sneaky Criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: racy legend

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Lilac stimulating hominid foreskin

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: pea-brained passionate party of the first part blood rage

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: shimmering electric locus

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: thirsty address cuck

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: sinister useless brakes

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: glittery slap-happy business firm

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2",#49105022)