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Fun Talmud Hypo: Found $100 Bill On Shabbos; OK To Kick It Home? (Link)
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 8:50 AM Author: self-centered lime potus Shabbos and Yom Tov #41 Found Money Rabbi Meir Orlian Wed Mar 18 2026 Based on the writings of Rav Chaim Kohn, שליט''א Based on the writings of Harav Chaim Kohn, shlita
Q
While taking a Shabbos walk, I encountered a $100 bill. Am I allowed to possess it?
There is an issue of muktzeh and — if no eruv
— an issue of carrying. Although Chazal provided certain leniencies regarding the prospective loss of one’s wallet, the leniencies are not applicable to money that is found, since it is not yours yet (O.C. 266:13).
Thus, you may not pick up the $100 bill, even if there is an eruv, because of muktzeh (Mishnah Berurah 266:38). However, according to many Acharonim, you can kick it aside with your foot to a secure place if there is an eruv (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilchasah 22:36).
There is a dispute between the Acharonim as to whether you may tell a non-Jew to pick up the bill for you, despite its being muktzeh. However, while you may not tell him to carry it if there is no eruv, if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him (Mishnah Ber-urah, ibid.).
Nonetheless, if you found a valuable item that is not muktzeh and there is an eruv, you may possess it and take it home. It is not considered a transac-tion, because there is no seller or giver. However, you should not raise it in a manner that blatantly indicates acquisition (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilcha-sah 29:32[89]).
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:37 AM Author: crimson trip trust fund theater 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762232) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:57 AM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762305) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM Author: Vigorous chad windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762309) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a shabbos goyim, just "someone"
Shabbos goyim are how you pricks trick God |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:20 PM Author: self-centered lime potus poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a shabbos goy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762633) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:37 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos goyim were blessed by rabbis or something so that they're allowed to facilitate your trickery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762896) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM Author: crimson trip trust fund theater i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so far as to come into their apartment and cook for them, turn on lights etc. but jews are allowed to stand there dumbly in an elevator until a goy pushes their floor |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:41 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevators in MFH just stop at every floor on Fridays and Saturdays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762916) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:46 PM Author: self-centered lime potus rofl didnt u live in mfh?
any goy can be a shabbos goy.
generally, you cant ask a shabbos goy directly do so something. that's why the case says "if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him."
you have to hint your shabbos goy "it'd be really nice to have that $100 bill after shabbos" or "no i dont want you to pick up that $100 bill for me, but you can bring it to my house for me to have after shabbos only if you really want to"
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but if you really want that loan to get approved, then you will need to bring me the $100 bill after shabbos"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762939) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:54 PM Author: self-centered lime potus perhaps too direct. might be better like this:
"hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but too bad it's shabbos because otherwise i'd love to have that $100 myself to pay for pesach expenses. remember, you do want that loan approved, haha" |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762991) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM Author: metal tripping incel is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is this hypo $100 and not $1 or even one penny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762310) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM Author: self-centered lime potus cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable item ..."
there is something in halacha about avoiding significant financial losses, but it's not clear how to apply this here... or whether a $5 or a $20 might be a valuable item. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:01 PM Author: startled demanding range genital piercing why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to figure out loopholes? and why do you people still "follow" these rules in the modern era? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762313) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM Author: Vigorous chad windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762347) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:23 PM Author: metal tripping incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762428) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM Author: self-centered lime potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762637) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM Author: magical razzmatazz organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762938) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM Author: crimson trip trust fund theater i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indicate you should not hold the pilfered goods high like a trophy but should instead cloak them in your black suits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762443) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM Author: self-centered lime potus it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of right and taking formal ownership. remember the shit in 1L properly law about taking ownership and making a claim against the world? its kind of the same thing.
in jewish law, you acquire something through an action asserting ownership. but you can't take formal ownership on shabbos. so it's giving a loophole so you can kinda take custody of the item without really taking formal ownership. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:34 PM Author: crimson trip trust fund theater so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as long as there is dental floss in teh sky), take it home and then claim ownership over it at sunset? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762670) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:35 PM Author: metal tripping incel dental floss in the sky tp lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762671) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM Author: self-centered lime potus depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh.
mukzeh means something that has no shabbos purpose. you're not allowed to touch mukzeh, which is an item that has no shabbos purpose.
a $100 bill is mukzeh since it has no shabbos purpose.
a diamond ring that's wearable might not be mukzeh since women wear jewelry on shabbos.
but if you found a raw 5ct diamond, it's mukzeh. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike spots a raw 5ct diamond laying on the ground during shabbos, do you really expect us to believe you wouldn't bend over, pick it up, and hide it in your shtreimel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762910) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM Author: self-centered lime potus there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762921) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM Author: anal aqua base Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't need to be exposed to this stupid horseshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762919) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:43 PM Author: self-centered lime potus i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast it until mid-morning monday. it's a shonda! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762922) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:44 PM Author: Beady-eyed ruddy goyim The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, can temporarily form a bubble of Friday around self, thus not violating the law of Saturday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762928) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM Author: self-centered lime potus see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standing still for 24 hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762946) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:49 PM Author: magical razzmatazz organic girlfriend jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they have spent centuries creating legal loopholes to trick their own god. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762944) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM Author: self-centered lime potus cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent centuries toiling the land (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762949) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM Author: anal aqua base then why dont niggers do a better job of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762994) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:01 PM Author: Vigorous chad windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762999) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:12 PM Author: self-centered lime potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763039) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM Author: Yellow duck-like roommate stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49762995) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:02 PM Author: magical razzmatazz organic girlfriend talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? but i suppose disregarding that because you consider laboring for your own sustenance beneath you is exactly the type of creating loopholes for your own religion that we're talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763008) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:13 PM Author: self-centered lime potus yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowed to own land in europe in much more recent times, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763041) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:18 PM Author: magical razzmatazz organic girlfriend what does that have to do with you going on the internet in 2026 to shit on goys for farming? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763046) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 7:10 PM Author: Pea-brained buck-toothed public bath boltzmann This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763586) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:15 PM Author: greedy jet toilet seat I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle training as a child learning about the world, to push back against dumbass rules (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763927) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:19 PM Author: self-centered lime potus rules are meant to be broken (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763936) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: greedy jet toilet seat there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763943) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:30 PM Author: self-centered lime potus yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763956) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM Author: greedy jet toilet seat one weird trick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763958) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:26 PM Author: Balding Unholy Patrolman goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up over their head like Link finding a huge rupee, SMDH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2)#49763948) |