–James Madison, Political Observations, Apr. 20, 1795 in: Letters and Other Writings of James Madison, vol. 4, p. 491 (1865)

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Most of these people are career bureaucrats and diplomats. What do they gain by having a rabid compulsion to go to war?

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What about being Secretary of Education and being unable to meddle with education standards or college loans?

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When ppl have prestige/ego tied up in some function, they want to exercise that function.

Same reason cops love to shoot their little tazars/guns at anything that moves.

The gross hypocrisy is that they never put themselves in harm's way.

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it's important to understand that they have basically NO CONCEPTION of what the US looks like or its social mood or its demographic composition today - they aren't concerned with that. they want to implement their grand strategies at any cost.

it's also important to understand that these people DO NOT see the 2003 iraq war as a failure. they see it as a stage within a larger war. syria is another stage; iran will be another. perhaps lebanon if the IDF gets tangled up in there again.

they also belong, for the most part, to the "money is fake bullshit numbers in computers" school of economics, which is why they feel no compunction about spending trillions on these grand projects. and to the extent that money is more than that, they are willing to gut domestic spending to keep their plans financed.

basically, they don't care about "america" per se; they mostly just want to use it like a cumrag, and they become very agitated and upset when their cumrag tries to protest its usage.

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Geopolitically, it is perpetually 1981

Demographically, their schema is perpetually c. 1964 ("WE CAN CONTINUALLY 'ASSIMILATE' A MASSIVE ALIEN THIRD-WORLD POPULATION INTO A SOON-TO-BECOME <45% WHITE AMERICA!")

Boomer brain fag.

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i don't think it's going to work like that THIS time, due to simple exhaustion and a demand for domestic reforms rather than yet more foreign adventuring, but the neocons are not concerned with that - to them, that's trump's problem, and they will gleefully sacrifice him and move on to the next target if their programs expend all his political capital.

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He's getting played like a fool and it's obvious to the outside world but not him.

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but if you ARE a tool, they will abuse you until you break, and then they will yell at you for breaking.

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I honestly hope the angry Trumpists/dissidents -- whose support of Trump marked a revolt against this neocon nonsense -- now turn and violently revolt against Trump himself.

More and more, I'm seeing Trump an abortive 'dry run', leading to the coming of the TRUE Nationalist messiah.

The sooner we get ABSOLUTE CLARITY on this issue, the better.

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I'd still vote for him over the Democrat, but I won't want to vote for this imbecile.

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if - we still have to see what actually happens.

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i like you.

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This thread has ignored the international political power motivation. There is a constant positioning for hegemony among the great powers. Bros like Cheney weren't pushing to overthrow Saddam to help Halliburton's stock price. They were doing it because they thought it was a crucial piece of long-term strategic US power to have a US-friendly oil rich regime in that part of the world and eliminate one who might otherwise eventually ally with Russia or China.

It's why diplomats give two shits about a shithold like Syria ... If the US walks away, we cede control to Russia of a country with a shitload of strategic value (borders with Turkey, Iraq, and Israel, access to Mediterranean, oil, etc)

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try asking them if we should have IQ requirements to vote.

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neocons believe wars are often necessary to serve the greater good in various ways

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