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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
harsh corner pocket flask
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
iridescent field
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Galvanic Violet Shrine
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Elite lavender pozpig school
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Galvanic Violet Shrine
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Elite lavender pozpig school
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Galvanic Violet Shrine
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
charismatic set incel
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Burgundy theater
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
navy provocative dilemma macaca
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cq
Bateful antidepressant drug
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
adventurous location
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
charismatic set incel
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Lake Home Giraffe
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
primrose mexican juggernaut
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
curious self-centered goyim hissy fit
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: harsh corner pocket flask

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: iridescent field

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: iridescent field

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: iridescent field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Galvanic Violet Shrine

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Elite lavender pozpig school

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Galvanic Violet Shrine

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Elite lavender pozpig school

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Galvanic Violet Shrine

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: charismatic set incel

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: slate striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Burgundy theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: navy provocative dilemma macaca

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Bateful antidepressant drug

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: adventurous location

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: charismatic set incel

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Lake Home Giraffe

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: primrose mexican juggernaut

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: curious self-centered goyim hissy fit

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026hid=",#49105022)