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Am I the only one who thinks gerrymandering is bad no matter who does it??
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Date: June 19th, 2026 12:57 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state so frustrating to see otherwise-intelligent people cheering it on if their ""team"" is doing it. (actually, it's frustrating seeing otherwise-intelligent people identifying as "Democrats" or "Republicans" in the first place.)
you don't fight disenfranchisement with disenfranchisement, dumbasses, you fight it with representative democracy. |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:15 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat No, of course you're not the only one
There is a reason that people forming teams based on politics and race and ethnicity thrive (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.), while those who transition into forming a broader coalition without clear racial and ethnic and political divisions (MLK, RFK, Huey Long, late stage Malcom X, etc.) quickly get killed |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:19 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state 10000000%
Fred Hampton too. the deep state was fine with him and MLK when they were standing up for black people's rights but when they started forming coalitions with poor people of other races? when Malcolm started speaking up more about oppressed groups around the world? 💥🔫 |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:28 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat You get it. It can't be unseen once you see it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948720) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:36 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state cr and it's not always as drastic as assassination. it also happens on the electoral level. I was volunteering for a third-party populist candidate recently who was speaking about how the political establishment is doing its best to divide and distract us with culture wars and keep us thinking in terms of left vs. right instead of top vs. bottom. and I watched Newsom's SoS pull a dirty trick to keep him off the ballot. I mean I literally watched it firsthand, I was in the courtroom. so fucking frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948747) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat Assassination is for people who seem to be capable of uniting across traditional boundary lines
If he keeps at it and makes any real headway, he'll probably catch a bullet. Would be worth googling him every few years to see if he suddenly dies or becomes a traditional politician. Sell-outs are common |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state :( I hope neither happens to him. I've met him a handful of times and he actually knows me by name and stuff and I really believe in him. he has been hinting he might not be done with politics. but I think he's more likely to drop out completely than to sell out. he's a professor who was dragged into politics when Jill Stein tapped him as her VP pick in 2024, Butch Ware. brilliant dude, very inspiring speaker, and jacked af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948948) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:27 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat It's awesome to find someone you actually believe in and could vote for in good conscience. Not a surprise they fucked him over. Hope he's the rare case that can stand strong and make a difference
Ron Paul is the only politician I've ever felt that way about. It's been sad to see the country move strongly in his direction too late for it to matter, and with demagogues instead of principled believers |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:35 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state crrr my understanding of Ron Paul has always been that he's principled and honest, even if I'm not very close to him ideologically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949210) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler He was a fucking idiot with zero understanding of monetary policy and international finance who told people not to drink tap water due to trace amounts of fluoride. He really appealed to conspiratards and the woefully idealistic. He's for people with no interest in reality but want to win arguments with whataboutisms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949223) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:40 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state "woefully idealistic" is one of the weakest criticisms ever imo. things can't change if everyone thinks it's hopeless/unrealistic for things to change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949226) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler I'm still thankful Ron Paul didn't win and we went back to the gold standard lol. Sometimes radical change is for the worst. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949229) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:36 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat That's good. What matters for the country is that you, as an individual, are thankful. Thank god we didn't wander away from the path we're on to be, you know, principled and even-handed and stuff. It would be a real shame if politicians tried to do what they say they're going to do, so their supporters can try to organize support and their opponents can try to organize opposition, so that there's even a chance that the better idea wins
And a good way to ensure this is to make stuff up and distort positions to make sure no principled people can ever go and muck up your thankfulness. You know, let's not talk about the real position like ending the fed and allowing, not requiring, but allowing, states to transact in gold and silver so that the market could decide what is best
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:41 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state can you work out what he's trying to say in this poast?: https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2#49949005
the "XYZ only works if everyone looks the same" is a line of argumentation I first encountered around age 12 and it struck me as obviously stupid from the first time I saw it, so I've always associated it with 12 year olds. but I don't understand how he's saying it relates to this thread topic even though he wrote sooooooo many words |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:49 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat I think so. I'm ESL. My native tongue is retard. Let me try to translate:
Gerrymandering in the United States is a good thing, because it is the product of the white race and American culture taking a stand in favor of self preservation. It is an attempt to hold back the horde of browns, blacks, and orientals who want to make America resemble the things that they're familiar with; the things that appeal to them and their groups. They would do this through political action if their votes aren't sufficiently diluted
Gerrymandering wouldn't be needed if we had a homogeneous society. But we don't. So embrace it, because it's all that is standing between you and non-whiteness |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:01 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat The issue seems to be that he doesn't understand that gerrymandering is political and not racial. Or at least he doesn't understand that there are many districts being preserved for Hispanic, Black, and Somalian, etc. people as long as they are of the right party and will support some generalized policy requirements (that have been disastrous for America) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949536) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:14 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state yeah I was having a hard time seeing how he jumped from weird absolutist race stuff to political gerrymandering (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949567) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:41 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat Yeah, I genuinely believe that principles and honesty are the things that make the most difference. Without that, political participation is like blowing your paycheck on scratchoffs
Although I am closely aligned with him ideologically and obviously think his policies would have been beneficial, the important thing to me is having access to politicians one believes in, whatever one's beliefs are and whoever that is |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:50 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state for sure. I made a thread about a Khanna/Massie or Massie/Khanna ticket a while ago and said I'd consider voting for them just because they're some of the only honest people in politics. if they ran on an anti-war/anti-corruption platform and it looked like California could go either way (which I think could only be the case if Massie were at the top of the ticket) I could see myself voting for them. but realistically I'll keep voting for third-party/independent candidates whose ideas line up better with mine AND who appear honest, since I'm not limited to only voting for "realistic" candidates that the "media" says have a chance of winning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949500) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:57 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat I've only voted a few times. My rule is I won't vote for anyone I don't genuinely support. Unfortunately for me, my support requires trust, which is why I have voted so few times
I let Trump's first term lull me into a sense of trust with his stated desire to stay out of wars. Boy was that a mistake
My view is we would be better served if people simply didn't vote unless there was a candidate they genuinely support. Systems don't survive 15% voter turnout for long. It would force change, though probably nothing meaningful. At least not right away. But at least there would be a chance for change |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state I've long said that not voting is the high-IQ move. it's funny because there's this idea that non-voters are "low information" but in reality I think a lot are extremely informed people who are smart enough to understand it's all fraudlies. I don't vote in most elections but I have voted in all the presidential ones, mostly due to peer pressure. I was 100% gonna stay home in 2024 until I found out about the Green Party. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949585) |
Date: June 19th, 2026 12:58 PM Author: milky pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948586) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state I'm in California and people were ELATED to disenfranchise Republicans in CA just because Texas was disenfranchising Democrats
as if it "cancels out" on the national level instead of just compounding the problem |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: Concupiscible Roommate Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948626) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:13 PM Author: hairraiser turdskin mad-dog skullcap I’ve always said it’s a flaw that the framers didn’t account for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948654) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 1:23 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state yep there was lots of stuff I guess they didn't anticipate, the Founding Fathers were kinda retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948703) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:24 PM Author: Sienna Mewling Doctorate Just do proportional representation (if it's 60/40 and there's ten seats, then the 60 party gets 6 and the 40 party gets 4). In an era of high party discipline, the party matters a lot more than the individual candidates. There's a billion proposals out there on how to do this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948930) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state I agree, that's a much purer form of representative democracy.
California Republicans post-gerrymandering are anticipated to get like 5/52 House seats, whereas 34% of Californians voted for Trump in 2024. I'm closer to Democrats ideologically than Republicans but imo my Republican-voting compatriots deserve proportional representation. I literally see leftists, even those who don't like the Democrats in general, saying this is totally fine because Republican voters are voting aGaInSt ThEiR bEsT iNtErEsT lmao. as if the Democrats ever deliver for us anyways. |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: Carnelian orchestra pit anything that doesn't involve gerrymandering will result in the GOP getting its shit pushed in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949357) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:25 PM Author: out-of-control keepsake machete i mean its like 0.001% as bad as illegal immigration or anchor babies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49948933) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:39 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler It only works in a high trust society where everyone plays by the rules. Enter Jews, black racial consciousness (90%+ voting Dem), Latinos, Jeets, Asians, Somalis, Muslims.
What do you do in the face of vehement tribal identity? The only race that actually believes in tolerance of other races are non-Jewish white people. I'm sure there are individuals of other races who agree with Western European humanism and universalism. But the BULK of them do not. They actually believe in doing what's best for them and people like them.
Most jeets for example want a jeet President and they want America to be more like India. That's just the way it is. Jews want more support for Isreal. Blacks want to decriminalize crime because in their culture they believe in street justice and the law of the jungle (not all blacks but just look at the Karmelo Anthony incident where he murdered a white kid for no reason and millions of blacks are pouring out support for this guy because he's 'one of us').
Anyway you cannot simply have a free and fair process when the other side is trying to rig the system. So many Asians and Jeets I went to high school with cheated on SAT, paid a professional to write their application etc. I knew a Jeet who got extra time on tests due to a fake learning disability that was 100% made up. A yuge cheater AZN I grew up with got into Stanford. He thought it was funny that he cheated the system.
The reality is we live in an era of crab bucket mentality with competing interests. Somalis want more fraudulent government aid so they can get paid to do nothing. You think anyone getting massive amounts of free government cheese is just going to be nonchalant about it like oh I guess I don't really care if whites organize and cut me off. No they're going to fight tooth and nail to keep the scam running in their favor. To say nothing of the Jews who literally control society and bend every rule in order to win at all costs.
So yes if we lived in Finland where everybody looks and talks the same we could have a high trust society. In Scandinavia they all revere Socialism and they dance around trees holding hands and singing songs about Marxism because 7/10 people have blonde hair and blue eyes and everyone speaks the same language and you can sing kumbaya and have a party and everyone is in it together.
But WE don't live in that reality. We live in a decaying empire that's being sold off for parts while heritage Americans have had the rug pulled out from underneath them. Gerrymandering is about white racial consciousness. It's about fighting back for our country from those who have taken it from us. The races came up with this and now we're putting ourselves first. If we lay down and die it's all over.
Fight! Fight! Fight! |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state sorry what are u trying to say here about the topic of the thread? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949027) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:46 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler I'm saying it's an extension of white racial consciousness and it's necessary to survive. I'm also saying that the left started it but we're going to finish it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949030) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:10 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state there are several leaps in logic here I'm still not following but maybe I'm retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949124) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:27 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler It's very simple imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949187) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 4:52 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat Did I do your view justice?
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2#49949493 |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:10 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state your translation from retard to English clears up some of what I was confused about. so his argument collapses to "Republicans are the only hope for white people, so gerrymandering in favor of Republicans is preferable to representative democracy"? it feels like he conflates a lot of different things here to fit it into his 12yo worldview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949555) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler The left started it and if they were just allowed to steamroll they would use power to destroy the Right. For example something like 40% of voters in the 6 New England states vote GOP but they have 0 representation in Congress. If Texas doesn't respond the GOP simply loses power. And we know what Democrats do when they win. They want to see us dead and they think it's funny when we are killed. Should the Right simply not respond? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949587) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:18 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state ???
"like 40% of voters in the 6 New England states vote GOP but they have 0 representation in Congress"
I'm literally saying that's wrong, that's my whole point. see e.g. https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2#49948973
re: Democrats wanting you killed, please take you're Seroquel |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:24 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler I admire your idealsism. You have a kind soul and I will always appreciate that about you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949605) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:25 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state :) in this case it's more about an obsession with fairness than about kindness but ty |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:38 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler Do Zionists think about fairness when they take over all our media, government, and institutions? Be honest lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949674) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:39 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state no... and Zios own both major parties so ??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949679) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:49 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler According to Ben Shapiro in an interview with New Yorker Editor in Chief David Remnick, Dems are a no-go option for Zionists. He believes they will never support Israel's goals. So mb they don't own both parties? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949721) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 8:51 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state oh, well if Ben Shapiro says so...!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950428) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler He admitted that it's harder to con MAF brown people into doing the bidding of Israel than the Trumpenproles. This is essentially a win for your side. Just take a victory lap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950433) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 8:54 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state my "side"? you've known me for how long and you still don't get that I don't think of politics that way (that's the point of the thread), nor do I identify with Democrats any more than I do with Republicans? how dense are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950437) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 8:57 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler I guess I'm being a little dense but however you want to put it Dems make up roughly half of the voting electorate and Zionist Jews in specific do not trust them at all. That's all I'm trying to say. It's a big point of contention which is why likudniks expend so much effort trying to control the GOP. They know they're not going to get a good deal with the opposition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950444) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 9:00 PM Author: At-the-ready contagious state it's true that Republicans are EVEN MOAR loyal to Israel than Democrats but currently both parties are overall compromised by them. two things can be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950452) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 9:02 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler Wait 2 weeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950459) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: blathering clear people who are hurt kitty cat It's not coherent in the least. It also ignores that gerrymandering is a tool used by whoever and whatever is in control to maintain control rather than a hidden power of republicans or proponents of traditional American culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949588) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 5:17 PM Author: razzle tantric deer antler (Consuela) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49949592) |
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Date: June 19th, 2026 10:41 PM Author: comical confused old irish cottage address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875579&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49950711) |