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Jag can we get an update on the situation w cock hungry milf who told her husban

That you're actually her gay confidant
appetizing home
  10/19/24
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Flickering wrinkle church
  10/19/24
i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without...
Swollen locale sound barrier
  10/23/24
180
startled amethyst rigpig
  10/23/24
thought you two were gonna lay low
iridescent friendly grandma
  10/23/24
yeah we said we would cool off but never did cucky remains ...
Swollen locale sound barrier
  10/23/24
what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on ...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
it's been hard on her. she doesn't wanna live a lie anymore ...
Swollen locale sound barrier
  10/23/24
"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart a...
Flickering wrinkle church
  10/23/24
yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's love...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
*dances out of thread*
Flickering wrinkle church
  10/23/24
well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down,...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
HAHAHAHAHAH you're funny.
Flickering wrinkle church
  10/23/24
i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibil...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility she ...
Swollen locale sound barrier
  10/23/24
this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact tha...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics
sickened hospital mexican
  10/24/24
if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unr...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
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sickened hospital mexican
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cowardly fantasy-prone menage
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sickened hospital mexican
  10/24/24
yes this is how women work
sickened hospital mexican
  10/24/24
seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i k...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is...
infuriating new version
  10/23/24
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Flickering wrinkle church
  10/23/24
you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her befor...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
harsh but fair jag feel free to share more pics in due cour...
tantric ceo
  10/23/24
i think the days of me getting pics are over i don't want h...
Swollen locale sound barrier
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ebony erotic site
  10/24/24
Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of...
appetizing home
  10/24/24
(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowle...
infuriating new version
  10/24/24
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Aquamarine trailer park brethren
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shaking hands w japanese man as last jew is ovened
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she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could hav...
Swollen locale sound barrier
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racy trust fund orchestra pit
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overrated bossy milk school cafeteria
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Light School
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cowardly fantasy-prone menage
  10/24/24
you seem unintelligent
Rebellious Pungent Meetinghouse Philosopher-king
  10/24/24
Lmfao 180 Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna ...
appetizing home
  10/23/24
do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will even...
bearded indian lodge
  10/23/24
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Flickering wrinkle church
  10/23/24
if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense ...
jet-lagged arousing state pervert
  10/23/24
decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not ...
overrated bossy milk school cafeteria
  10/23/24
XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people t...
Talented ruddy rehab mediation
  10/24/24
if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his f...
Talented ruddy rehab mediation
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if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill mysel...
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Light School
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Flickering wrinkle church
  10/24/24
This is highly credited, but you could also: - gather evide...
sickened hospital mexican
  10/24/24
No LFOD is right here It takes 15 years minimum to become a...
cowardly fantasy-prone menage
  10/24/24
Irl lol Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike Always the midge...
appetizing home
  10/24/24
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Aquamarine trailer park brethren
  10/24/24
they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck
startled amethyst rigpig
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shaking hands w japanese man as last jew is ovened
  03/31/26
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cowardly fantasy-prone menage
  10/24/24
i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes
Swollen locale sound barrier
  10/24/24
Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo...
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  10/24/24
i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym
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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: appetizing home

That you're actually her gay confidant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48215170)



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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48215171)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without telling me.. so i came in her again yesterday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232448)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: startled amethyst rigpig

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232456)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:37 PM
Author: iridescent friendly grandma

thought you two were gonna lay low

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232462)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:41 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

yeah we said we would cool off but never did

cucky remains suspicious but we don't contact or see each other outside work anymore. except when she calls me from random landlines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232483)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on eloping? are you hoping that will happen? where are you at on the odds of "this is going to end in disaster" versus "this is gonna be a awesome forever"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232494)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:56 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

it's been hard on her. she doesn't wanna live a lie anymore and i made her keep lying.

her husband squealed to her whole family (and his kids) that she said she wanted a divorce. her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart attack and her dad told her "look what you're doing to your mother". it was all made up

so she's isolated at home but i think is slowly building back normalcy. although she says she refuses to be intimate with him anymore. they apparently fucked 3-4x/week before at her husband's insistence, but she tells me she would just lie there wanting it to be over... who knows.

anyway i don't know what i want. i do love her and have an emotional and physical connection with her that i've never had before. it's hard to tear myself away. but the ugly reality of breaking up a family might ruin us.

would like to just keep it going as is, but it's untenable because she's ultimately a birdbrain and will almost certainly get caught again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232549)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church

"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart attack and her dad told her "look what you're doing to your mother". it was all made up"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232593)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's lover is probably so stable and demure because her mom's dramatic attention-seeking meltdowns taught her how *not* to be"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232605)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church

*dances out of thread*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232619)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down, jag's lover will learn a valuable lesson in loyalty and take full accountability for her actions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232623)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church

HAHAHAHAHAH

you're funny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232626)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibility, surely she has surrounded herself with female friends who will logically and firmly confront her with the facts. at that point she will have no choice but to calm down and accept fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232642)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility

she says she wants a divorce regardless of what happens between us. i at least convinced her to bide her time until this blows over and she's had time to think. if she's insistent on this, i'd rather she leave on her own terms. bringing infidelity to light will just hurt a bunch of innocent parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232721)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact that if (when) this blows up, she will inevitably cast herself as the victim and refuse to take real accountability.

she might say "i know it was fucked up and it was wrong" but it will shortly be followed with "but i was in such a loveless marriage for so long where my emotional and physical needs were ignored for years..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232755)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: sickened hospital mexican

you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234960)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unreceptive to reason and logic, the worst case scenario is that they'll get a divorce, and the husband will be rid of her. because jag's lover is solely at fault, emotionally unhinged, and refuses to take accountability, and the hubby is completely blameless, a court would surely divide their assets and determine custody in favor of the innocent husband.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234965)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: sickened hospital mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235850)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236316)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: sickened hospital mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234957)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: sickened hospital mexican

yes this is how women work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234955)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i know you won't (and don't judge you + have enthusiastically ran into a trainwreck too).

99.99% chance that ends is a blaze of glory. hope it happens around MPM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232611)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: infuriating new version

Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is unfaithful in her marriage will never work out. She will fuck someone else besides you and will be a shit wife. Setting aside the morality of it, if you want to fuck her, fuck her, but stop thinking with your dick and saying that you "love her" you fucking faggot. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232628)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232632)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:21 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her before she returns to her marital bed (nbd, she told jag it's dead) will surely have the firm hand and discipline to fix this misguided woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232648)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:23 PM
Author: tantric ceo

harsh but fair

jag feel free to share more pics in due course - every single man wants to fuck the shit out of a coworker or all of them, and you’re living the dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232654)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

i think the days of me getting pics are over

i don't want her to contact me at all, she's proven that she can't handle discretion

but she just messaged me on instagram like a retarded slimepit. she'll delete it immediately but she's asking for trouble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232694)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: overrated bossy milk school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232713)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: ebony erotic site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234899)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: appetizing home

Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of spouses leaving their total loser spouse and marrying someone else and going on to have a happy and successful second marriage

The cold hard truth is that some people are total losers, and unfortunately some non losers end up making a bad decision by marrying them. And these situations sometimes resolve by the desirable person leaving the undesirable person and finding another desirable person instead. It's really not that unusual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234919)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: infuriating new version

(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowledge)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235028)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: Aquamarine trailer park brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236220)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: shaking hands w japanese man as last jew is ovened



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49784315)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: zippy hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235249)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236319)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: racy trust fund orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232720)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:46 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could have cheated a long time ago

i realize how i sound right now but i don't think a real relationship is in the cards anyway. she won't give me kids so where would we even go if we got together

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232766)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:48 PM
Author: racy trust fund orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232775)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: overrated bossy milk school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236276)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: Light School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236328)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236345)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Rebellious Pungent Meetinghouse Philosopher-king

you seem unintelligent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236253)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: appetizing home

Lmfao 180

Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna be one of your favorite memories in your life

Don’t listen to the faux self righteous envious fags on this board

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232761)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: bearded indian lodge

do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will eventually get got for this immoral behavior?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232571)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232572)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense really increases the odds jag gets got. before he wasn't *directly* responsible for deceiving the husband.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232614)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: overrated bossy milk school cafeteria

decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not flame" but, highly entertaining nonetheless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48232722)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: Talented ruddy rehab mediation

XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people to their own personal destruction now.

tasteless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48234969)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: Talented ruddy rehab mediation

if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his fucking hands. i know i'd get off with probation and that fucker would never use a scalpel again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235241)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: jet-lagged arousing state pervert

if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235283)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: Light School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236223)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Misanthropic Pisswyrm Cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236227)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236321)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: Flickering wrinkle church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235291)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: sickened hospital mexican

This is highly credited, but you could also:

- gather evidence of cheating

- hide assets

- divorce wife

- she goes to him and fucks up his life after awhile

- turn kids against wife

- you kill him after five years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235852)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage

No LFOD is right here

It takes 15 years minimum to become a heart surgeon

Down the fucking tubes in an instant. Diabolical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236323)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:52 PM
Author: appetizing home

Irl lol

Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike

Always the midgets who talk like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48235878)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: Aquamarine trailer park brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236217)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:48 PM
Author: startled amethyst rigpig

they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236465)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: shaking hands w japanese man as last jew is ovened



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#49784317)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236320)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2\u0026hid=#48236463)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:50 PM
Author: vermilion space mental disorder

Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo potbellied surgical resident mmm mmm mmmm

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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:56 PM
Author: Swollen locale sound barrier

i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym

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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:03 PM
Author: MASE

Update?

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